2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary shatters $100M fundraising goal
Clinton's campaign, which started raising money for the Democratic National Committee and state Democratic parties this quarter through the Hillary Victory Fund, also raised $18 million in the joint fundraising effort, meaning the campaign raised a total of $55 million for the quarter.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/01/politics/hillary-clinton-fundraising-100-million/index.html
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Get the wrong jury and I'm certain this news will get a hide.
So her cash on hand went up 5 million! That means she burned almost 32 millions to collect the 37 million. She has no appeal, she's desperate to make it seem like she has any enthusiasm among her supporters
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Hekate
(90,556 posts)Then why this nasty comment? It's neither true nor necessary nor helpful.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Not much else to say 'bout dat! WEll said! Simple in fact!
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Her Ca$H Burn demonstrates mega inefficiencies in her campaign management that despite all that CA$H she can't draw 300 people to an event. Hell, Bill canceled two of three Pennsylvania Fundraisers due to insufficient numbers of people attending events that he was hosting. Embarrassing....
BainsBane
(53,012 posts)no one can give more than $2700 total for the entire primary, same as for Sanders.
I have given a total in 2015 of about $225, which according to the figures I received puts me in the top 88% of donors. I'm not a corporate oligarch. In fact, my income is half that of the average Sanders supporter (according to polling data).
Given you claim to care about the role of money in politics, you should at least inform yourself on the basics of campaign finance regulations. Of course, facts get in the way of sloganeering.
earthside
(6,960 posts)... as the net personal worth of Bill and Hillary.
Not quite as much, but getting close.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Years in higher pay. Sanders wife bring in her high income. If in 70's he has only 300k, I have to ask, Why?
Sometimes having too little money results in questions too. Like, do we want a manger of money for the nation to have only 300k, after decades of higher income and opportunities, spending ourmoney.
The thing is, I know people that make a hell of a lot more, struggling. And people making a lot less sitting at 300k and more at this time in their life.
Management of money is annimportant quality for president.
You know, so important it is a 'must have'.
earthside
(6,960 posts)"You know, so important it is a 'must have'."
Sounds like an endorsement for Trump.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Bernie isn't rich enough, so he's not to be trusted. Where in the name of Christ did that come from?
dsc
(52,152 posts)but inclusive of whatever he may owe on those houses. Thus assuming a fairly modest DC abode and a fairly modest VT abode his net worth is likely underestimated by a factor of 2 or more.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)cash in? In my line of work I see too many people scrambling to make a better buck and usually at someone else's expense. And then I have other people who say
I'm okay. I'm good! I want to live a relaxed and happy life. I don't need one more thing than this.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)That is around 400k a yr. For decades. Yes, when I am hiring someone to deal with the nation's money, I expect them to be able to be responsible with money.
If Sanders math works for you? Fine. I do not do fuzzy math, though. I have questions.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Not far off 400k. But hell, lets call it 300 k joint for at least 25 yrs.
And $200k of that came from Jane's golden parachute from Burlington College. She received that after lawyering up, once accused by her employer of fraud. A Sanders family tradition.
DeadLetterOffice
(1,352 posts)Here is the thing. Sanders walks in stating he has only 300k. (# Has since, changed). His job, all
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=965612
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Why are we pointing to the Jewish candidate and accusing him of mismanaging money? This meme has been pushed for months and the implications of shady financial transactions are over the top.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Jan 2, 2016, 05:49 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I find the argument presented unconvincing and kinda out there- "don't vote for x, he's not rich" doesn't seem reasonable to me as a Democrat - but not hide-worthy.
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Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Both sides get carried away. We could be flagging post all day. I support Bernie, but not alerting on post like this. I'm asked to serve on too many juries.
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Explanation: I would have hidden just for "manger of money".
For the record, I'm juror #1.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Sad when people think that this "proves" anything other than the need for campaign finance reform.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)He never stood a chance
brooklynite
(94,333 posts)...or do you suggest he disarm unilaterally?
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Super Tuesday can't come fast enough for me.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)they change so often. So I talk about this post, which glorifies pandering to the rich as a sign of success.
You are welcome.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)It reports on fund raising numbers, that's all.
Bernie will undoubtedly have good fundraising numbers as well, and I expect his supporters to take a well-deserved victory lap.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)generally apathetic electorate to actually vote, the numbers mean nothing. That apathy can only be overcome by having a message that is believable and inspiring.
Given how the quality of their candidates has so declined over the years, I actually feel sorry for the GOP.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)brooklynite
(94,333 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Alfresco
(1,698 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,128 posts)an oligarch is to support a candidate who is not Bernie Sanders. I have given her campaign around $400 so I must count myself amongst the oligarchs. I am expecting an ambassadorship for my generosity, maybe the Court of Saint James.
Alfresco
(1,698 posts)reACTIONary
(5,768 posts)Alfresco
(1,698 posts)Sanders reports percentage of money raised from small donations, Clinton reports percentage of donations which were small. One person can donate the max in small amounts. Many people donating a small amount. See the difference?
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jkbRN
(850 posts)..but using a super PAC to fund her campaign proves her hypocrisy on yet another issue.
Brag away.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)The super pac will report their own funds raised before January 31st, 2016. The 55 million raised is from the Clinton campaign itself.
jkbRN
(850 posts)In which I stated that she is still backed by a super PAC, that raised the other 45 million dollars per "100 million" dollar mark.
I was not confused, it seems like you don't understand that her super PAC makes up 45% of her pull for this deadline, or maybe you just ignore it. Either way facts remain the same, my friend.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)was the goal. That different from the last quarter numbers that are listed.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Is or is not the $112 million raised separate from what her PAC raised. I believe it is separate.
dmosh42
(2,217 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)To believe that these creatures will not pull her strings is delusional
fasttense
(17,301 posts)Her corporate and bank donors, and this huge amount she should be able to buy anything she wants...maybe she could buy her way to the presidency.
That's what the Supreme Court envisioned when they ruled on Citizen United...someone would buy the presidency. They just never thought it would be a Democratic leader...nor a woman.
Kind of ironic RepubliCONS rig the court with RepubliCON sycophants expecting them to rule in their favor to be able to buy the presidency and a Democratic leader beats them to it. And it's a woman to boot.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)the equivalent of $100 mil for Hillary.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)I dunno why you are attacking Hillary Clinton when Bernie Sander's is doing the same.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)makes me laugh. BTW, what I said was, 100 mil for Hillary, Bernie only needs 25 mil. He wont be wasting his money. Can you guys maybe talk about issue differences and things like that? You would lose that argument too, so, I guess not.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)The details of Hillary or Bernie's campaign budget.
And if they were, I'm certain they wouldn't share the details.
Unless were talking about random internet photos and anecdotes, in which case, have at it.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)riversedge
(70,082 posts)onecaliberal
(32,777 posts)Alfresco
(1,698 posts)postatomic
(1,771 posts)Alfresco
(1,698 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)riversedge
(70,082 posts)reACTIONary
(5,768 posts)MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)Unless only Sander's supporters count as "the PEOPLE".
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)riversedge
(70,082 posts)Hillary Clinton @HillaryClinton 3h3 hours ago
The numbers are in: In the fourth quarter, people gave more than $55 million$37M to the campaign, and $18M to the Democratic Party.
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94% of our fourth quarter donations were $100 or less, and more than 60% of donors were women.
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#Hillary2016 starts the new year stronger than ever. To everyone who has supported this campaign: Thank you.
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@HillaryClinton Thank you! #ImWithHer!
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azurnoir
(45,850 posts)riversedge
(70,082 posts)Sancho
(9,067 posts)You can get some too!!! Hillary in 2016!
Union made in the USA!!
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Vinca
(50,236 posts)It's a shame our elections are so long and costly. It makes it impossible for someone to come out of nowhere - Lawrence Lessig, for example - and have a snowball's chance in hell. We're failing to give the best and brightest a chance at it. Add to that the constant campaigning for House seats and it's no wonder nothing ever gets done in Washington. It's too bad it can't all start and finish within a 6 month time frame rather than this 2 year slog.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)aikoaiko
(34,162 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)but she also followed up on the fundraising agreement candidates had with Democratic Parties in various states and the DNC to raise money for them to the tune of 18 million. So far she is the only one that has.....until we see BS totals.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...in October. I assume that raised money for the Iowa Democratic Party.
Gloria
(17,663 posts)excerpt:
"At the beginning of this campaign, Hillary Clinton set a goal of $100 million in primary contributions for 2015 and blew past that goal, raising more than $112 million in primary money for the year," her campaign said in a statement.
It said she had raised $37 million for the primary campaign, the most for any non-incumbent in a non-election year, and $18 million for the Democratic Party in the fourth quarter.
Clinton has prided herself on raising funds from women and donors of small amounts. In the most recent quarter, 94 percent of the money raised was in donations of $100 or less, her campaign said.
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Good for HRC!!!
brooklynite
(94,333 posts)...don't they know they're being brainwashed into voting against their interests?
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,311 posts)That's a bullshit figure that is misleading and regurgitated by the media. Almost seems intentional.
The majority of "money raised" was raised by "large individual contributions". That figure is 81% according to Open Secrets.
The 94% under $100 dollars only pertains to the number of actual donors.
Example:
1000 people can donate 10 cents for a total of $100 dollars.
1person can donate $2700 dollars for a total of $2700 dollars.
That means 99.99% of "donations" came from donations of 10 cents. But the vast majority of the "money raised" came from one large donor.
Huffington is conflating "money raised" with "actual donations"
It's like when George Bush claimed his "average tax cut" was $1100 dollars. You and me got pennies and millionaires and billionaires got hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Or "the vast majority of my tax cuts went to the middle class" - not the actual dollar amount because that went to the top .1%.
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Clean out your bank account.
Sell your house and give it all to Hills. You know, be a REAL supporter! You know how to bundle, right?
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)R B Garr
(16,950 posts)are not going to hold the entire history of campaign finance against one woman.
How IRRATIONAL is that.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)Great job!
oasis
(49,326 posts)R B Garr
(16,950 posts)and careless with the truth about getting elected.
Reality and simple FACTS remain. Whatever corporations or other large donors give to Democrats, they always give more to Republicans. Everyone knows that. It's common knowledge.
So glad she's not playing games and is bring realistic.