Because of her SS detail, Hillary CAN'T fly like Bernie or Martin. So quit pretending she can.

[pnwmom]

If Bernie gets the SS protection I think he should get, he'll have to go through the same thing she does.

And flying on a private jet, when she does it, is less disruptive to other passengers on a commercial plane. Who wants to have to give up their seat to a SS person?


http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/even-when-flying-the-public-clinton-keeps-it-private

Clinton does not fly the commercial the way you fly commercial. Thanks to strict security concerns, Clinton is insulated from the public from the moment she arrives at one airport to the time she leaves the second one. And even when trapped in a metal tube in the sky with fellow passengers, there are few opportunities for public interaction.

While the insulation is largely outside of Clinton’s control and determined by the Secret Service, it underscores the logistical difficulties Clinton will have in connecting with ordinary voters on her second campaign.

On Tuesday afternoon in Dubuque, Iowa, a few dozen passengers waited for their routine American Airlines flight to Chicago, one of only three flights scheduled from the tiny airport that day. Suddenly, a small motorcade pulled up, just outside the floor-to-ceiling windows that separate the airport’s only gate from the tarmac.

SNIP


With a bulkhead in front of her, a window to her right, and trusted aide Huma Abedin between her and the aisle, Clinton donned sunglasses and looked at her BlackBerry as passengers boarded.

The seats around were filled by Secret Service agents, and then campaign staff further back. No one approached her during the short flight.

SNIP

[mahina]

1. I don't care how she sorts out her transportation.

Trust that she makes rational decisions on the manini day to day stuff.

I hope Bernie gets protection too, asap.

[Depaysement]

2. Sanders gets SS protection

It started in October/November.

[pnwmom]

3. Good. He should. So it's probably not just a coincidence that he's recently

taken to flying on private planes.

[Depaysement]

22. Don't know

But as I understand it he doesn't always take private planes, even now.

[pnwmom]

23. And neither does she. That's just a claim the other side likes to make.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/even-when-flying-the-public-clinton-keeps-it-private

On Tuesday afternoon in Dubuque, Iowa, a few dozen passengers waited for their routine American Airlines flight to Chicago, one of only three flights scheduled from the tiny airport that day. Suddenly, a small motorcade pulled up, just outside the floor-to-ceiling windows that separate the airport’s only gate from the tarmac.

[PyaarRevolution]

26. Given their conduct of late.

I would prefer he have some very well-paid privately hired bodyguards as well. I'm worried one of them will come in royally hungover from the day before and you can paint a picture of the rest.

[Kalidurga]

4. I don't care how either Hillary or Bernie travels

It is nice to see Bernie in the middle seat. I doubt Hillary will ever travel that way, probably she never will be able to. There are far to many whacko people out there.

[Art_from_Ark]

18. I doubt that Hillary has ever traveled like that

since at least the mid-70s, when she was a corporate lawyer defending utility companies against ACORN and rate-payers.

[Kalidurga]

21. Yeah probably not

She didn't do so bad for a kid growing up in a small 2500 square foot home.

[Nonhlanhla]

20. Not that it matters

but I think he sits in the middle because he is flanked by security guards.

I think it's nice that Bernie has traveled coach so far. That has now changed, as it was destined to, given his increasing stature in the public eye.

I don't begrudge Hillary her way of travel either. She's been a former First Lady, Senator, and high ranking Obama Administration official. She simply cannot travel the way you and I can, both for scheduling and security reasons.

I agree with your that this is a non-issue.

[leveymg]

5. Don't really care, but The New Yorker had an article about how Pres. Carter flies coach w/SS men

I doubt if anything has fundamentally changed since 2006. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/12/11/jimmy-carter-aloft

Here to There
December 11, 2006 Issue
Jimmy Carter Aloft
By Nick Paumgarten

2006_12_11

Unlike Bill Clinton, a serial moocher of private jets, Jimmy Carter flies commercial. He shambles through airports, towing a wheelie bag. He and his retinue of Secret Service men bypass security, board the plane before the other passengers, and procure the first few rows. Prior to departure, he takes a window seat, in order to insulate himself from his fellow-travellers as they step onto the plane and glance at him with tight smiles that seem to indicate pride not only in their sudden proximity to an ex-President but also in their ability to refrain from making a fuss. Then, after the plane’s door has shut, he stands up and walks aft, shaking hands, posing for pictures, learning all the children’s names. “It saves me a lot of headaches,” he explained last week. “It saves me from having them come up to see me during the flight.” (It’s hard, but fun, to imagine Keith Richards doing this.) Carter returns to his row and takes an aisle seat—“Rosalynn likes the window”—and the plane leaves the gate.

So it went, anyway, on the eight-thirty Delta shuttle from New York to Washington last Tuesday morning, on the second day of Carter’s latest book tour. The book, his twenty-first, is “Palestine Peace Not Apartheid,” a provocation that had him parsing words, especially that last one, all week: “I’m not alleging racism, and I’m not referring to Israel. I’m talking about Palestine.” It is his contention that the situation in the Occupied Territories “is not debated or acknowledged or even known in this country,” and that the “tremendous aversion” here to criticism of Israel’s policies has contributed to the disintegration of the peace process. “I can’t imagine a Presidential candidate saying, ‘I’m going to take a balanced position toward the Israelis and the Palestinians,’ and getting elected,” he said. “It’s inconceivable. AIPAC is smart enough to penetrate any sort of circumlocutions.”

Carter, who is eighty-two, was coming off a full day of interviews in New York (Rose, King, Gross) and embarking on another (Russert, Blitzer, Lehrer), but his zest for trumpeting his ideas and accomplishments seemed undiminished. He wore a checked jacket, gray flannels, and brown Kiltie loafers. Jonathan Demme, meanwhile, was shooting a documentary about him, to be called “He Comes in Peace.” Demme and his crew sat across the aisle, cameras rolling. They had even filmed him swimming that morning, in the pool at the Peninsula hotel. (“I do a variety of strokes,” Carter said, and it was a pleasure to hear him—an Annapolis man—use the term “Australian crawl.”)

Carter has evolved into a professional writer. “Most of my income comes from writing,” he said. He writes when he’s at home, in Plains, Georgia. “I’m a farmer still: I get up at five o’clock. I will write until I get tired, until ten or eleven o’clock. Then I have a woodshop twenty feet away, and I go there and I build furniture, and I paint.”

[pnwmom]

7. Hillary is at far greater risk than Carter at 82. But the way he travels

sounds like the way she travels when she uses commercial -- surrounded by SS agents and bypassing normal security.

[leveymg]

8. Risk of what? Being assaulted with a cocktail napkin in First Class?

Nobody has a weapon, except her bodyguards. Get real.

[pnwmom]

13. Carter has SS protection and bypasses security when he flies.

Is he afraid of being assaulted with a napkin?

[Fawke Em]

10. Why?

In fact, he's an easier target because of his age.

That's not a valid argument.

Besides, she DID fly commercial earlier in the campaign. You can't really use that as an excuse.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/even-when-flying-the-public-clinton-keeps-it-private

[pnwmom]

12. Because she's much more in the public eye and has more haters. nt

[TheFarS1de]

24. But they are all down in Economy

[Vinca]

6. Oh, good lord. Is the airplane discussion still going on?

What's next? Who uses environmentally-friendly paper towels and who doesn't? It might be nice to chitchat about how the candidates feel about Russia and the new Cold War Putin is stirring up rather than useless trivia like choice of transportation and champagne flutes.

[comradebillyboy]

11. Thank you, I couldn't agree more...nt

[bobbobbins01]

9. Nobody cares.

Lets talk about the issues.

[SunSeeker]

14. K & R

[cherokeeprogressive]

15. YAWN

[lumberjack_jeff]

16. Nor use the bathroom like a normal person either, apparently. nt

[pnwmom]

17. "Normal person"? Hi, Donald. When did you start impersonating lumberjack_jeff?

Because Jeff isn't a sexist who thinks men are the "normal persons."

[2pooped2pop]

19. even if she could, she would be in first class.

get real.

[baldguy]

25. When the Berniestas bring shit like this up, it just shows how desperate they are.

[Motown_Johnny]

27. Who claims she can fly like everyone else?

We all know she has been inside her bubble for decades.

Nobody expects her to behave like normal people do.