Yes, Bernie signed a joint fundraising pact with DNC.

[madfloridian]

Sanders campaign inks joint fundraising pact with DNC

From Politico November 5.

Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign has signed a joint fundraising agreement with the Democratic National Committee, the DNC confirmed to POLITICO.

The move, which comes more than two months after Hillary Clinton's campaign signed such an agreement in August, will allow Sanders' team to raise up to $33,400 for the committee as well as $2,700 for the campaign from individual donors at events.

The candidate rarely headlines fundraising events, and is not close with many big-money Democratic donors, but he has been working to prove his proximity to the party in recent months as he competes with Clinton.

The Vermont senator, who is an Independent but caucuses with Senate Democrats, also recently lent his name to a fundraising letter for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, according to a campaign adviser, in another indication of his slowly growing ties to the party's infrastructure.

There now may be some question about his "his slowly growing ties to the party's infrastructure", especially since the DNC chairwoman abruptly shut him off from the voter database while playing the whole thing out in the media.

But it's been said here that he raised no money for other candidates, so this sets the record straight.

[Snotcicles]

1. Don't know if I'd buy the rope they wanted to hang me with. nt

[madfloridian]

3. .....

[roguevalley]

11. 'in recent months' ... before the DNC fuck up. Bernie is honorable and too many aren't.

I hope he doesn't raise a nickel for them. They won't help him at all. DWS would give it to her pet candidates.

[KittyWampus]

14. before the Sanders staffers stole data, you mean.

[MrMickeysMom]

17. I'm sure we'll all see that blow out of DWS's ass...

I hope there are pictures of how this miserable boot licker crossed the many lines for which she's yet to receive full credit!

[AgingAmerican]

95. Show where they are accused of doing that?

And not from Hillary partisans.

[Snotcicles]

22. I used the fattest sharpie I could find to tell them to unsubscribe me from the DNC

mailing list on the last fund raising letter I got from them.

[SusanCalvin]

54. Oh, just the last one?

I've sent five or six back with nastygrams, starting quite a while ago.

[Snotcicles]

64. I got lucky the first time. At least I think I did. lo nt

[SusanCalvin]

65. They probably have me down as someone they can count on for $$

They could, if they'd do right.

[Snotcicles]

67. Yeah, I gave and gave till they broke my heart. edited

but I'll get over it.

[merrily]

79. !!!

[djean111]

2. Funny thing is, none of this stuff has anything to do with the issues that, for me, elevate Bernie

over Hillary. Has nothing to do with war, the TPP, Wall Street, cluster bombs.
Just pointless sniping. As if, say, Bernie flying in a private jet a few times would get me to switch to another candidate. Makes no sense.

[madfloridian]

4. Good point....for me it's issues.

[arcane1]

7. That's the point: to distract us from the issues. He wins on the issues.

He must be torn down in any way possible, except on the issues

[sadoldgirl]

8. True, but what is a person to do,

if one cannot attack him on the issues?!

[MeNMyVolt]

15. Nobody is trying to get you to switch.

And if you think not working to elect more Democrats is going to help you with your "war, the TPP...", then I'm not sure you understand how things work in this country.

[djean111]

29. I confess I am a bit confused - the head of the DNC, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, has actively

supported her GOP buddies here in Florida, has refused to campaign or fund raise for Democrats running against them, and I am supposed to give her money, and expect that SHE is working to elect Democrats? IMO the party is FUBAR. And I know how things usually work in this country - we elect a corporate Democrat and all the shit I am afraid of happens - and I would be expected to fucking cheer about it.

[SusanCalvin]

56. I was not aware

That the DNC is working very effectively to elect more Democrats. At least since Dr. Dean.

[pnwmom]

28. The issue is CONGRESS, which must pass the legislation Bernie is promising.

He won't get any of his ideas through Congress, which means that we need to elect more Democrats to work with WHOMEVER is our nominee.

Too many of Bernie's supporters don't seem to understand this.

[djean111]

32. Evidently DWS does not understand that. Good money after bad, or whatever.

Everyone I know will be voting for Bernie in the primary, and for Grayson, and after that we will discuss straight ticket voting.
No one I know watches "regular TV", so the money flung about is wasted on them anyway.

[pnwmom]

39. After that is too late. And it wouldn't cost Bernie much to send emails to his

supporters, asking for help for the Senate and House campaign committees. No one's asking him to pay for TV ads for other people.

[SusanCalvin]

68. How about DGA?

https://democraticgovernors.org/

One of the few organizations, as opposed to individuals, I'll actually give money to.

[ljm2002]

37. Do you trust DWS...

...to back Democrats? If so, why? She has demonstrated her disloyalty to Democrats in the past.

[pnwmom]

44. Why doesn't he support the Senate Campaign Committee? DWS isn't part of it.

And we desperately need to take back the Senate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Senatorial_Campaign_Committee

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) is the Democratic Hill committee for the United States Senate. It is the only organization solely dedicated to electing Democrats to the United States Senate. The DSCC's current Chairman is Senator Jon Tester of Montana, who succeeded Senator Michael Bennet following the United States Senate elections, 2014. The DSCC's current Executive Director is Tom Lopach, who is assisted by Deputy Executive Director Preston Elliott.

[SunSeeker]

57. One of the many reasons he has gotten no Senate endorsements. nt

[ljm2002]

60. I asked you a question...

...that you avoided answering.

Which says volumes.

[pnwmom]

62. I am neutral on the DWS issue. She isn't perfect but no one is. n/t

[ljm2002]

69. Thanks...

...so now I know how deep your loyalty to the Democratic Party goes.

Anyone who can be "neutral" on Disloyal Debbie should refrain from criticizing others on the score of party loyalty.

Seriously.

[Autumn]

63. Here you go this was in August

Establishment Democrats are trying to harness Vermont senator Bernie Sanders’s popularity with the liberal grassroots to raise money.
Sanders, who has emerged as Hillary Clinton’s closest rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, signed a direct-mail letter sent out by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee this week. “As you know, I’ve been traveling around the country to discuss the serious problems we’re facing and what we must do as a nation to resolve them,” the three-page fundraising letter says. “But the Republicans in Washington are blind to what’s happening. Or worse — they see it but they just don’t care. They’d much rather give tax breaks and special favors to their billionaire friends than help ordinary Americans live decent, healthy lives.” (Emphasis original.) The letter notes that Senate Republicans have several vulnerable members up for reelection in 2016 and must defend 24 seats to the Democrats’ 10. It spotlights Nevada — where Democrats hope to hold the seat vacated by retiring Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid — and Wisconsin and Illinois, which are seen as two of the party’s best chances to pick off a GOP incumbent.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422561/bernie-sanders-democratic-party-fundraising

[SusanCalvin]

70. I can't speak for Bernie,

But I currently trust very few organizations. Mostly individuals.

[Blue State Bandit]

42. Coattails elect down ticket, not the DNC. If that were the case...

then why do we loose seats almost every mid-term? (shouts to the '06 team)

The RNC has had no problem electing everything down to and probably including dog catcher for the past decade.

So what is DSW's DNC's problem?

[Marty McGraw]

46. and just think...

if that last line of what you wrote was left out, just how reasonable you would have sounded...


ahh... perhaps next go around...

[Lordquinton]

51. Should he support Democrats or the DNC

Cause the DNC has caused dems to loose while Debbie cozys up to Republican canadites.

[pnwmom]

52. The Senate Campaign Committee isn't run by DWS.

He could fundraise for the DSCC.

[Autumn]

74. He has. I linked it for you up thread and you keep ignoring it

Establishment Democrats are trying to harness Vermont senator Bernie Sanders’s popularity with the liberal grassroots to raise money.
Sanders, who has emerged as Hillary Clinton’s closest rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, signed a direct-mail letter sent out by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee this week. “As you know, I’ve been traveling around the country to discuss the serious problems we’re facing and what we must do as a nation to resolve them,” the three-page fundraising letter says. “But the Republicans in Washington are blind to what’s happening. Or worse — they see it but they just don’t care. They’d much rather give tax breaks and special favors to their billionaire friends than help ordinary Americans live decent, healthy lives.” (Emphasis original.) The letter notes that Senate Republicans have several vulnerable members up for reelection in 2016 and must defend 24 seats to the Democrats’ 10. It spotlights Nevada — where Democrats hope to hold the seat vacated by retiring Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid — and Wisconsin and Illinois, which are seen as two of the party’s best chances to pick off a GOP incumbent.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422561/bernie-sanders-democratic-party-fundraising

[pnwmom]

75. He didn't report any fundraising for other Dems in his annual report. nt

[Autumn]

80. He did fundraise for the DSCC which you were concerned about him not doing throughout this thread

[pnwmom]

81. If HE raised actual funds for them, that would have shown up in his report.

Being one of the signatories on the DSCC letter isn't the same.

[MADem]

86. This thread is about the joint fundraising agreement with the DNC, not with the

DSCC. He should help out on that score--he's benefited from that reservoir in the past.

But that's NOT DNC fundraising for downticket races, the thing he agreed to do and apparently has not yet done.

HRC found time to raise eighteen million for them last quarter.

[Autumn]

90. The poster brought up the DSCC, in this thread. More than once

What the thread is about is not the issue, I responded to the other poster who had deep concerns about Bernie not fundraising for the DSCC . He has.

[MADem]

91. Attaching your name to an email or having

a staffer use your autopen to slap a signature on a letter is probably the LEAST possible effort one can expend in fundraising....

[Autumn]

93. Whatever, Bernie's name was attached.

[uponit7771]

55. +1!! To some congress doesn't even exist !! To substantiate their loathing of current dems they

... minimize the impact of congress and the overt gerrymandering.

It's getting sad

[Historic NY]

5. Don't worry he didn't raise one blank dollar for Democrats either....

he'll sure want a piece of what Hillary raised and what it says is he doesn't care about anyone else down ticket. Apparently the contract meant nothing to him.

Clinton also raised $18m for @TheDemocrats on top of her own fundraising. Sanders raised $0

[Punkingal]

9. Yeah...and this was cited in an article about this in the Washington Post...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/01/02/bernie-sanders-raises-more-than-33-million-in-latest-fundraising-quarter/


The take of the Vermont senator, however, lags further behind Clinton's overall haul of $55 million for the past three months, which also included $18 million earmarked for the Democratic party -- money that would help bolster her prospects in the general election.

She's so altruistic!

[pnwmom]

23. And the money that went to other Dem candidates will help her get legislation passed.

If we don't get more Dems elected, Bernie won't be any more successful than Hillary (or President Obama) in getting legislation passed.

[Punkingal]

27. If we had someone besides DWS we might get more Dems elected...

She hasn't done that.

[madfloridian]

10. Glad you found some info. Could you share? I thought it was only after maxed out donors....

or something like that. Like a Victory Fund? Bernie has few maxed out donors...so that would impact it wouldn't it? I read somewhere that some of the Bernie supporters are getting mail asking them to support the DSCC or the DCCC. That doesn't sound like he doesn't care.

I can't find more about amounts, so eager for you to share.

[madfloridian]

12. Yes, tied to maxed out donors...found this.

Clinton is raising those party donations from her maxed-out contributors. Sanders has very few maxed-out contributors.

He did make the exact same agreement with the party that Clinton did, so hopefully as time goes by and more of his contributors hit the max he’ll get them to pony up to the party as well.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/2/1465523/-Hillary-Clinton-Outraises-Bernie-Sanders-in-Q4-Sanders-raises-nothing-for-Dem-Party#comment_58826108

[SusanCalvin]

71. So if Clinton's DNC contributions

Are pretty much exclusively from her maxed-out donors, this is a tempest in a teapot, right? I'm sure Bernie has few maxed-out donors. So there.

[demwing]

6. It's about honesty

Not the candidate's, but the supporters.

Thanks for this bit of truth.

Btw - what part of Florida are you from? I'm in St. Pete.

[a kennedy]

13. So???!!! eom

[MeNMyVolt]

16. Not sure you're grasping this.

The DSCC email is fine, but our candidate should demonstrate the ability to generate down ticket support. And yes, under existing rules, much of that is from wealthier donors. SBS doesn't have that, hence the zero dollars. An effort would have been nice though. Killer Mike or Ben or Jerry couldn't kick something in on his behalf? Maybe later I guess. We'll see,

[zazen]

18. are you grasping that he shouldn't raise money for corrupt organization that misappropriates money?

Why raise money for Debbie to selectively use to support (OR NOT SUPPORT) Democratic candidates depending on whether she thinks they're "competitive" or not. I've seen up close how she treats candidates whom she thinks aren't electable enough, or who don't tow the party line.

Sanders needs to win the primary first. Then he can throw money to help down ticket candidates, fairly instead of according to the criteria of a demonstrably corrupt DNC leader.

This would be different if Howard Dean were running the DNC, but Debbie doesn't need another dime. She needs TO GO.

[MeNMyVolt]

20. We're not going to agree on this.

One big reason reason your candidate is not doing so well is that a lot of the party faithful have no faith in him. His working for the party he now seems to belong to would have helped him in that regard.

[pnwmom]

45. DWS has nothing to do with the Senate Campaign committee. Why doesn't

Sanders ask his supporters to donate there?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Senatorial_Campaign_Committee

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) is the Democratic Hill committee for theUnited States Senate. It is the only organization solely dedicated to electing Democrats to the United States Senate. The DSCC's current Chairman is Senator Jon Tester of Montana, who succeeded Senator Michael Bennet following the United States Senate elections, 2014. The DSCC's current Executive Director is Tom Lopach, who is assisted by Deputy Executive Director Preston Elliott.

[madfloridian]

19. I'm not very bright. I count on you to keep me informed.

[MeNMyVolt]

24. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Have a good night Mad. Always wish you the best.

[pnwmom]

21. Yes, he signed the agreement, but he hasn't raised anything yet, according to his filed reports,

including the one he just filed for the 4th quarter.

So I'm not sure what record you're setting straight.

[madfloridian]

26. There's a reason...much to do with Bernie's small donor base.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/2/1465523/-Hillary-Clinton-Outraises-Bernie-Sanders-in-Q4-Sanders-raises-nothing-for-Dem-Party#comment_58826108

Clinton is raising those party donations from her maxed-out contributors. Sanders has very few maxed-out contributors.

He did make the exact same agreement with the party that Clinton did, so hopefully as time goes by and more of his contributors hit the max he’ll get them to pony up to the party as well.
jrooth — biancardi
Jan 02 · 01:24:47 PM

Even MeNMyVolt tends to think I'm right:

And yes, under existing rules, much of that is from wealthier donors. SBS doesn't have that, hence the zero dollars.

[beam me up scottie]

25. Well done as usual, madfloridian!

So much disinfo out there about that vile selfish Bernie, how could anyone possibly support someone like him?

[George II]

30. How much has he raised for State Democratic Parties and the DNC? Certainly not even close....

....to $18M, otherwise it would be all over DU.

And this is incorrect: "the DNC chairwoman abruptly shut him off from the voter database", and incomplete. It wasn't so abrupt, and it only happened after he (his committee) was caught nosing around areas of the voter database that they weren't authorized to access.

[madfloridian]

36. We will never agree.

There is no doubt DWS has done great harm to the party, and she uses the media still just as she did against the DNC chair in 2008.

[Gman]

31. This is nothing.

He hasn't hosted one fundraiser for the party who's infrastructure he's using for free then sues when his staff steals data. Sanders is freeloading off the party

[madfloridian]

34. If you look at it that way, then so am I.

Freeloading that is.

[SoapBox]

35. Well....we'll just see.

And when he's President, we will finally be rid of DWS.

[PowerToThePeople]

41. Gee. Man.

[Indydem]

43. Precisely.

The guy has never supported the Democratic Party until he wants to use their voter registry and infrastructure.

[PADemD]

47. Access to Votebuilder is free?

I thought each campaign paid for its access.

Isn't Bernie's campaign paying for its own rallies and advertising?

I thought the only thing the DNC paid for was the convention.

[SusanCalvin]

72. Another interesting point. Thank you. nt

[Gman]

84. Too many people are willingly clueless

About what the DNC does.

[SoapBox]

33. Thank you very much for providing the facts.

[pnwmom]

40. The fact is that Bernie's campaign reports that he has raised no money

for other Democrats or the DNC.

Nothing in the OP changes that fact.

[madfloridian]

48. Here's why:

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/2/1465523/-Hillary-Clinton-Outraises-Bernie-Sanders-in-Q4-Sanders-raises-nothing-for-Dem-Party#comment_58826108

Clinton is raising those party donations from her maxed-out contributors. Sanders has very few maxed-out contributors.

He did make the exact same agreement with the party that Clinton did, so hopefully as time goes by and more of his contributors hit the max he’ll get them to pony up to the party as well.
jrooth — biancardi
Jan 02 · 01:24:47 PM

Even MeNMyVolt tends to think I'm right:

And yes, under existing rules, much of that is from wealthier donors. SBS doesn't have that, hence the zero dollars.

[pnwmom]

50. No, she's not only raising it from maxed-out donors. She raised some of it from me,

and I'm not even close to being maxed out.

Yes, the Victory Fund is set up that way, but she helps raise other funds from non-maxed out donors.

[jwirr]

38. So what is DWS going to do about those of us who are

refusing to donate to any of the establishment love letters? I do not trust them either to be fair to Bernie and Martin or to support truly progressive candidates on the down ticket.

We are in this mess because of the past support for DLC candidates like Rahm has supported. So instead of knowing who to support I am setting here supporting Bernie and not knowing who to support on the down ticket.

Issues are indeed what is important to me. But a whole lot of our candidates are calling themselves progressive - while they endorse Hillary.

Just curious in all the fundraising groups we get emails from is there any that we can trust anymore?

[pnwmom]

53. Which is exactly why Bernie should be communicating with his supporters

on this subject. Surely there are SOME Dems he could support. Otherwise, how does he think he can ever get any legislation through Congress?

Why doesn't he fundraise for the DSCC, which is not headed by DSW, by the way?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Senatorial_Campaign_Committee

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) is the Democratic Hill committee for theUnited States Senate. It is the only organization solely dedicated to electing Democrats to the United States Senate. The DSCC's current Chairman is Senator Jon Tester of Montana, who succeeded Senator Michael Bennet following the United States Senate elections, 2014. The DSCC's current Executive Director is Tom Lopach, who is assisted by Deputy Executive Director Preston Elliott.

[PADemD]

76. PA Senate Race

There are currently three people running for the PA U.S. Senate seat. I prefer to give directly to the candidate of my choice, not the DSCC.

[pnwmom]

78. That's fine. But Bernie's campaign hasn't been giving to any other Democrats, according

to his annual report.

[PADemD]

82. If I gave to the DSCC,

the two other democratic primary candidates, who I do not wish to support, would receive a portion of my donation, thereby diluting my contribution to the candidate of my choice.

I give money to Bernie's campaign for his campaign.

[pnwmom]

83. No. The DSCC wouldn't distribute it till there was a primary winner.

Your money would go to help whoever the winner is. Why would you have a problem with that?

[PADemD]

85. My money will go to the candidate

I hope will be the primary winner.

[MADem]

87. That DNC money is not for primary constests.

The DNC cash is to put more DEMOCRATS in office during the general election.

Whoever wins the PA primary would get a little cash from that coffer--but Bernie needs to help fill it, as he agreed to do.

[Mc Mike]

49. My wife and I gave to the DSCC due to a Bernie Sanders 'ask'.

It seemed like it would help the Dems' Senate candidates, and also tell the party that we favored Bernie, at the same time.

The DSCC knew what it was doing when it asked Bernie to fundraise for it.

[Eric J in MN]

59. When did Bernie Sanders make that request? NT

NT

[Autumn]

61. Here you go it was in August

Sanders, who has emerged as Hillary Clinton’s closest rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, signed a direct-mail letter sent out by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee this week. “As you know, I’ve been traveling around the country to discuss the serious problems we’re facing and what we must do as a nation to resolve them,” the three-page fundraising letter says. “But the Republicans in Washington are blind to what’s happening. Or worse — they see it but they just don’t care. They’d much rather give tax breaks and special favors to their billionaire friends than help ordinary Americans live decent, healthy lives.” (Emphasis original.) The letter notes that Senate Republicans have several vulnerable members up for reelection in 2016 and must defend 24 seats to the Democrats’ 10. It spotlights Nevada — where Democrats hope to hold the seat vacated by retiring Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid — and Wisconsin and Illinois, which are seen as two of the party’s best chances to pick off a GOP incumbent.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422561/establishment-dems-turn-bernie-fundraising-help-joel-gehrke

[Eric J in MN]

66. Thanks. That demonstrates that Sanders fundraises for other Democrats. NT

NT

[SusanCalvin]

73. Thank you. nt

[Mc Mike]

89. Thanks. We don't save the fundraising letters after we act on them.

There's no reason to, because they're not deductable. But I did look up the date in our check book.

[Mc Mike]

88. We gave 10/24, but the paper mailed request could have come weeks earlier.

Sometimes those requests get saved and shelved until we have the money to give. We got another req, after that, from Bernie for the DSCC, as well.

And the request makes sense. He wants to back electing Senators who will help him work on the issues he thinks are important.

[mhatrw]

58. LOL. The party establishment treats him like a parian, just as the corporate media does.

He's generated all his money despite their best efforts to squash him like a bug.

[postatomic]

77. Well I'm glad we got that all sorted out

It was getting confusing.

[Blue_Adept]

92. so many posts about this in the last couple of days just says that few really understand

the actual process and how it works.

And just shouting "It's all corrupt!" doesn't endear you to anyone - especially those that hit the ground and work hard for the candidates and other activism.

[riversedge]

96. And reading the posts--it is clear many still do not understand.

[madfloridian]

94. Diary at DKos has some interesting thoughts..

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/2/1465551/-Why-didn-t-Bernie-Sanders-raise-any-money-for-the-DNC

Long read, but lots of good points.