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Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 10:44 PM Jan 2016

Huffington Post - 14 Percent of Democrats Will Not Support Hillary Clinton.



14 Percent of Democrats Will Not Support Hillary Clinton. Only Bernie Sanders Prevents Low Voter Turnout

"Most importantly, CBS News explains in a piece ironically titled Poll: Hillary Clinton still leads Democratic race, that among Democrats, "Fourteen percent would not support her in a general election" and "under half" would enthusiastically support Clinton:"
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Huffington Post - 14 Percent of Democrats Will Not Support Hillary Clinton. (Original Post) Android3.14 Jan 2016 OP
K&R Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #1
For the Democratic nomination, saltpoint Jan 2016 #2
Diplomatically stated... 3catwoman3 Jan 2016 #11
absolutely! Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #17
K&R for the truth. Another percentage just won't vote at all. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #3
About 50% of Americans won't vote for a socialist. onehandle Jan 2016 #4
And of that 150 million, Paka Jan 2016 #7
So that means they won't be voting for Secretary Hillary "Wall St. Socialism" Clinton? brentspeak Jan 2016 #29
then that 14% aren't Democrats dlwickham Jan 2016 #5
That's DU, not the Democratic Party Android3.14 Jan 2016 #8
Of course they are Democrats. Hillary's campaigns both times have alienated droves of real Dems. hedda_foil Jan 2016 #26
It definitely turns people off when you always take the low road against your primary opponent jfern Jan 2016 #36
Very Intuitive and Well Said... People Are Not On Board With Having "Their" So Called Nominee CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #37
"If you won't vote for Clinton, you are not a Democrat!" Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #28
That's why the smart money is on Bernie for the primary Android3.14 Jan 2016 #6
Smart money is not on Bernie redstateblues Jan 2016 #12
Link please. I'd love to lay a few bucks on Bernie. Scuba Jan 2016 #40
And those are the simple, honest ones, still willing to speak truth to strangers Proserpina Jan 2016 #9
Simple, yes. Unable to contemplate that SCOTUS picks last beyond principles. nt msanthrope Jan 2016 #13
Pouting Dems will have a Scaliafied SCOTUS as their reward. oasis Jan 2016 #10
Hillary supporters will share in the reward. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #14
You and those like you will blame us when Hillary loses regardless of what we do. haikugal Jan 2016 #31
To win, Hillary needs only the support of those willing to embrace her oasis Jan 2016 #32
What? haikugal Jan 2016 #33
Those numbers might not mean much Nonhlanhla Jan 2016 #15
14% of "Democrats" are idiots. Nitram Jan 2016 #16
I think the "idiots" are the ones who will vote for h in the primary.. artislife Jan 2016 #25
H.A. GOODMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MohRokTah Jan 2016 #18
14% of Democrats in this poll act like spoiled brats to pollsters alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #19
Not every one is a dyed in the wool Democrat zalinda Jan 2016 #22
the Clinton campaign unfortunately isn't doing anything beyond saying "do you want a turd MisterP Jan 2016 #20
That SandersDem Jan 2016 #21
This article is part of why... PyaarRevolution Jan 2016 #23
It's not an "article", it's an opinion piece from a writer who has been twisting truth for years. George II Jan 2016 #42
Yet another essay by the Rand Paul 2016 endorser. Why any progressives take any word pnwmom Jan 2016 #24
The coronation committee is very displeased with you. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #27
Clinton's support is wide enough but shallow as hell. That's a turnout nightmare. Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #30
What are the numbers for Sanders? Hellomotto Jan 2016 #34
Update: the poll didn't ask the enthusiasm question regarding Sanders Hellomotto Jan 2016 #35
HAHAHA Goodman rbrnmw Jan 2016 #38
Wow! And that's her base. Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #39
Is there a reason you dug up a one-month old HA Goodman opinion piece now? George II Jan 2016 #41
I hadn't seen it or forgot it Android3.14 Jan 2016 #43
It was posted back on December 3 and was thoroughly debunked. George II Jan 2016 #44
Hillary supporters expressed displeasure, which is different than debunked Android3.14 Jan 2016 #46
This was posted back on December 3 and was thoroughly debunked: George II Jan 2016 #45
Hillary supporters expressed displeasure, which is different than debunked Android3.14 Jan 2016 #47

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
2. For the Democratic nomination,
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 10:51 PM
Jan 2016

I prefer Bernie Sanders. For the general election, I vote blue.

After considering the sort of Cabinet and court appointments a Ted Cruz or other Republican will be making if the GOP wins, I urge the 14 percent aforementioned to remove their heads from where their heads are currently located and reconsider their voting strategy.

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
17. absolutely!
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:07 AM
Jan 2016

The amount of right-wing judges that are in from prior pres. selection and any new appointments from this administration that are continuously blocked (as well as other non-judicial appointees) is killing any sense of justice and democracy in this country. We have to hold on just a little longer.


onehandle

(51,122 posts)
4. About 50% of Americans won't vote for a socialist.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 10:55 PM
Jan 2016

That's about 150 million more than that 14% of Democrats.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
7. And of that 150 million,
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 11:06 PM
Jan 2016

about 90% won't vote for a Democrat, whether real or perceived socialist. My RW religious mother who taught Sunday School for about 50 years wouldn't vote for Jesus if he ran as a Democrat. I know, because we had that discussion before she died.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
8. That's DU, not the Democratic Party
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 11:06 PM
Jan 2016

The choir agrees with you, but those 14% are just as much Democrats as you are. The party should be smart enough to realize how to win this election...and it is not with Clinton.

Stupidity knows no party affiliation, and those 14% are Democrats and they represent a serious problem with Clinton as the nominee.

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
26. Of course they are Democrats. Hillary's campaigns both times have alienated droves of real Dems.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 02:12 AM
Jan 2016

Virtually every Democrat at the start of the primary races in both 2008 and 2016 was okay with voting for her. She should, after all, have been unstoppable, and she's certainly qualified on paper. It's the tone of the campaign that is off-putting and alienating ... the tone of snobbery, inevitability, disdain and put downs. Th.e first time I figured it was her nasty and mean spirited campaign managers and"advisors" who were not serving her well. This time around with a whole new team running the same campaign, the only constant is the candidate.

It's not even about Bernie that so many are so turned off. It's about Hillary and company.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
36. It definitely turns people off when you always take the low road against your primary opponent
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 07:06 AM
Jan 2016

It's all about divide an conquer for her. Well a lot of primary voters don't like being divided and conquered.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
37. Very Intuitive and Well Said... People Are Not On Board With Having "Their" So Called Nominee
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 08:22 AM
Jan 2016

"Inevitable" though she and her Corporatist Oligarchy Billionaires and the in the tank MS Mediawant US to think she is... shoving her DOWN OUR COLLECTIVE THROATS is NOT working!

The fact is SHE is OWNED by Wall Street and no matter what she says her actions, in toto over the now decades speak louder than ANY excuse she can provide.

The socialist TAG on Bernie is slowly fading away and is now relegated to a Red Herring.

Bernie is giving a speech on his plan to reign in Wall Street today... Quite the opposite of the handmaiden to Goldman Sachs who presently is reportedly one of the least trusted people in America.

Winning ugly is not the ticket for rallying the troops so to speak. Inevitable is by the way... NOTHING is OVER or "inevitable" until the votes are counted.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
28. "If you won't vote for Clinton, you are not a Democrat!"
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 02:44 AM
Jan 2016

Great slogan bro. Will you win the GE with that one? Because I doubt you can win Iowa with it.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
6. That's why the smart money is on Bernie for the primary
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 11:02 PM
Jan 2016

If bernie loses the primary, we vote the D ticket in the general election, even if we have to crown Little Ms. Corporate. Of course that's what we should do, and what I will do.

But just like there are some Clinton yahoos who don't understand why a vote for Bernie in the primary has the best return, there are also those Sanders nimrods who will stay at home because Clinton is a divisive figure.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
9. And those are the simple, honest ones, still willing to speak truth to strangers
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 11:10 PM
Jan 2016

Those who have been dragged off into the bushes and assaulted for voicing an opinion are less likely to be forthcoming.

They call it a Secret Ballot for a reason. A very good reason.

oasis

(49,365 posts)
10. Pouting Dems will have a Scaliafied SCOTUS as their reward.
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 11:13 PM
Jan 2016

They had better wake up and smell the coffee.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
31. You and those like you will blame us when Hillary loses regardless of what we do.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 03:44 AM
Jan 2016

You've been doing it for years, decades. It's false but it will be done anyway.

The beatings will continue.

oasis

(49,365 posts)
32. To win, Hillary needs only the support of those willing to embrace her
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 03:56 AM
Jan 2016

and thereby, become a part of history.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
15. Those numbers might not mean much
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 11:59 PM
Jan 2016

About 10% of Democrats voted for McCain (same percentage as for Bush). Right now we're in primary mode and some Democrats will say they won't vote for Hillary, but some will come around by November. In reality I suspect the percentage of "Democrats" who won't vote for Hillary will end up being roughly the same as the percentage that did not vote for Obama or Kerry.

Bernie's numbers will probably be about the same.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
25. I think the "idiots" are the ones who will vote for h in the primary..
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:46 AM
Jan 2016

She is a polarizing character. She is a poor version of a republican and a democrat.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
19. 14% of Democrats in this poll act like spoiled brats to pollsters
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:09 AM
Jan 2016

But will end up pulling the lever for the Democratic nominee regardless of their dumbshit responses in January.

There. Fixed it for you.

zalinda

(5,621 posts)
22. Not every one is a dyed in the wool Democrat
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:26 AM
Jan 2016

some are quite soft Democrats, and may or may not show up to vote. Then there are those who want to vote FOR some one not against the Republicans. There are a ton of dems who have been waiting for some one like Bernie for most of their lives and will not let go easily. And don't forget those who signed up as dems just because of Bernie, and don't want any one else.

The Democratic party will be the big loser if Bernie is not the GE candidate. The people who signed up to vote and volunteer did so because of Bernie, most will not be converted over to Hillary. If they had been interested in her, they would have supported her in the first place.

Z

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
20. the Clinton campaign unfortunately isn't doing anything beyond saying "do you want a turd
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:13 AM
Jan 2016

or a turd sandwich?!"

and then they launch into how everyone hates bread and that it's whole grain and that if the campaign somehow fails to attract brainless enthusiasm it's the voters' fault and you wouldn't want me calling your mother, WOULD you Billy?

SandersDem

(592 posts)
21. That
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:20 AM
Jan 2016

scares the shit out of me. I do not want Trump in the White House. I don't want Hillary either. In my red State, my blue vote is marginalized.

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
23. This article is part of why...
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:31 AM
Jan 2016

I believe Bernie can make Kansas a Swing state and Hillary has no chance. Obviously, I also couple in the fact that for some, not just Democrats, Hillary is divisive to them in general. There's also the independents.
Bernie is a sure bet in the General Election while Hillary is not. We've seen the polls run where he's tested against Rubio and the like compared to Clinton. Regarding Clinton, the numbers are too close for comfort as far as I'm concerned.
All this being said, make sure you know where you're going for the vote, double check and triple check if you have to.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
24. Yet another essay by the Rand Paul 2016 endorser. Why any progressives take any word
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:31 AM
Jan 2016

from him seriously I can't understand.

 

Hellomotto

(31 posts)
34. What are the numbers for Sanders?
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 04:40 AM
Jan 2016

In the same categories.

And how many Republicans would not support each GOPer?

#context

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
39. Wow! And that's her base.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 10:37 AM
Jan 2016

She has NO crossover appeal and her ONLY support are Yellow Dog Democrats and the .01%.

George II

(67,782 posts)
41. Is there a reason you dug up a one-month old HA Goodman opinion piece now?
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:12 AM
Jan 2016

Of course, no comment in that column about how many Democrats would not support Sanders. Is it 20%? 30%? More?

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
46. Hillary supporters expressed displeasure, which is different than debunked
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jan 2016

It is a misleading error to equate opinion with fact.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
47. Hillary supporters expressed displeasure, which is different than debunked
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jan 2016

It is a misleading error to equate opinion with fact.

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