2016 Postmortem
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Bold, Brash And Wholly False: Hillary Clinton Is Misleading People About Bernie Sanders Wall Street Reform, AgainHillary's Wall Street reform plan is to misrepresent Sanders', while falsely claiming her's is tougher. Nice try
TUESDAY, JAN 5, 2016 02:25 PM EST
Today at 2 p.m., Bernie Sanders gave a speech on Wall Street reform.
Yesterday, Hillary Clintons campaign preemptively attacked.
Her chief financial officer said of the then-undelivered speech that Senator Sanders should go beyond his existing plans for reforming Wall Street and endorse Hillary Clintons tough, comprehensive proposals to rein in risky behavior within the shadow banking sector.
This is bold, brash and wholly false.
The distinction between Sanders plan to break up the banks, and reining in shadow banking, is nonsensical, as many so-called banks are in fact deeply involved in shadow banking activities.
Clinton is the one peddling soft reforms for shadow banks, and refusing to break up the behemoth financial institutions.
MORE...
http://www.salon.com/2016/01/05/bold_brash_and_wholly_false_hillary_clinton_is_misleading_people_about_bernie_sanders_wall_street_reform_again/
tecelote
(5,122 posts)"In comprehensible English, that means Clinton is advocating minor tweaks to the financial regulation system, instead of its transformation."
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)Thanks for the thread, Purveyor.
cali
(114,904 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)I could learn from you.
(But on the other hand, I want you to be careful, too.)
TheProgressive
(1,656 posts)No need to add anything...!
senz
(11,945 posts)Interesting that she can't stay rational on the subject.
What a weird primary season this is turning out to be. Just like 2008, when she's slipping, she behaves oddly.
Can you imagine what she'd be like as president? Depressing thought.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Shocked I say.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)to hear that Hillary is lying about Bernie.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Green Forest
(232 posts)Unlike Barack Obama and Bernie Sanders, I do not believe the Clintons are capable of running an honest campaign or an honest government.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)litlbilly
(2,227 posts)floriduck
(2,262 posts)She sets the example and her sheep, er followers, continue the sliming.
Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)It's perfect.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)is that her campaign isn't about truth. It's about building narratives.
They don't give a damn if what they say is true or false. What matters is the narrative they are trying to stick in the public consciousness.
They'll do and say anything to harm an opponent or leverage themselves. That includes lie, exaggerate, degrade, spread rumors or viciously attack. We saw all of those behaviors. I'm sure we'll see the same in 2016.
Bring it.
senz
(11,945 posts)One of the reasons they creep me out so badly.
Duval
(4,280 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)Nicely stated.
sorechasm
(631 posts)Clinton invites voters to look at what I did in the Senate, but, she actually only introduced five bills related to the dangerous housing bubble before/after the 07 Crash. No committee took any action on them, and, in the Democrat-controlled Senate, they died without further discussion.
Hillary Clintons words do not reflect her actions.
There is a reason Clinton is receiving money from these financial giants, and in such amounts she feels compelled to lie about their relationship. She will not (and cannot) cut Wall Streets stranglehold on the majority-generated wealth, in the vein of Theodore Roosevelt or FDR, and so is instead trying to sell minimal reforms as the crackdown that Sanders is championing.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)The headline was a few words too long.
hueymahl
(2,482 posts)stupidicus
(2,570 posts)eom
Duval
(4,280 posts)on Truth-Out. It was a real eye-opener!! Thanks for the link.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Hillary supporters. Listen to Sanders' speech and decide for yourselves.
Bernie is right on this one. Very, very right.
And this is important.
He points out that in 2008, African-Americans in the US lost 50% of the wealth that they had accumulated since the end of slavery.
There's a lot more to learn in that speech.
He literally tears apart the corruption that exists in our government and the control that Wall Street exercises over Congress.
Wonderful speech. We need reform.
I knew to keep away from debt during the Clinton era, but some of my friends lost their businesses and homes. They were good people, ran small businesses, kept the faith. I love them. They are my friends. They have never recovered. Several are in their 70s and they will never recover. The pain, the degradation caused to real people because of the "exuberance," the inability to resist gambling by an irresponsible few is so sad to me.
I do not understand the inhumanity of that.
I personally know good people who are bankers. Unfortunately, they are not running any of our too-big-to-fail banks.
Bernie's proposals will spread the risk but also the gain and the opportunity. I'm for it. It is a reform proposal, not an anti-financial-sector proposal.
For one thing, Bernie proposes that ratings agencies should be non-profit. I support that proposal 100%. In fact I would support it a million percent if such a percent were possible. But that's the point isn't it. This is about mathematics. The reform of the financial sector is about math and how to make the math of money work for all of us and for all of our society.
Feel the Bern! He's got so much just downright common sense.
Feel the Bern!
Paka
(2,760 posts)I plan to do as you and listen again this afternoon. Great speech.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)1. She has an "aura of experience/competence"
2. No more white men in the white house
That's it. She falls short of Sanders on every single issue. So an ambitious, specific, progressive plan like Bernie's will not penetrate the bubble.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Where are the usual suspects?
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)he said-you said-she said-link-prove it-did to-did-not ....you get the idea . That's where the silly nitpicking gets almost, but not quite funny.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)quo, is that "she is tough". Well she aint tough on Wall Fracking Street. She is tough on the wrong people.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)More of the same.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Disqualified her from any support. We can be having liars represent us.