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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 07:03 PM Jan 2016

“Bold, Brash And Wholly False”: Hillary Clinton Is Misleading People About Bernie Sanders’ Wall...

“Bold, Brash And Wholly False”: Hillary Clinton Is Misleading People About Bernie Sanders’ Wall Street Reform, Again

Hillary's Wall Street reform plan is to misrepresent Sanders', while falsely claiming her's is tougher. Nice try

TUESDAY, JAN 5, 2016 02:25 PM EST

Today at 2 p.m., Bernie Sanders gave a speech on Wall Street reform.

Yesterday, Hillary Clinton’s campaign preemptively attacked.

Her chief financial officer said of the then-undelivered speech that “Senator Sanders should go beyond his existing plans for reforming Wall Street and endorse Hillary Clinton’s tough, comprehensive proposals to rein in risky behavior within the shadow banking sector.”

This is bold, brash and wholly false.

The distinction between Sanders’ plan to break up the banks, and reining in shadow banking, is nonsensical, as “many so-called banks are in fact deeply involved in shadow banking activities.”

Clinton is the one “peddling soft reforms for shadow banks,” and refusing to break up the behemoth financial institutions.

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http://www.salon.com/2016/01/05/bold_brash_and_wholly_false_hillary_clinton_is_misleading_people_about_bernie_sanders_wall_street_reform_again/
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“Bold, Brash And Wholly False”: Hillary Clinton Is Misleading People About Bernie Sanders’ Wall... (Original Post) Purveyor Jan 2016 OP
Status quo with some "tweaks". tecelote Jan 2016 #1
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #2
Typical sleaze from a slimy campaign cali Jan 2016 #3
LOL, you are so direct. senz Jan 2016 #5
Nicely put... TheProgressive Jan 2016 #9
exactly! nt m-lekktor Jan 2016 #21
Remember how she lost it in the debate when asked about Wall St. connections? senz Jan 2016 #4
It feels like a General Election to me. Very strange and very important primary season. nt stillwaiting Jan 2016 #6
Lies from the Clinton Campaign? I'm fucking shocked! 99Forever Jan 2016 #7
I'm SHCOCKED, SHOCKED ! Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #8
It's just so not like her. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #37
This type of Big Lie politics is a big reason why I switched my vote from Hillary to Bernie. Green Forest Jan 2016 #10
Hillary is picking up where she left off in 2008 in dirty campaigning. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #11
It didnt work for her then and it won't work now. litlbilly Jan 2016 #12
It's called trickle down campaigning floriduck Jan 2016 #26
#jamiedimonsabuela Indepatriot Jan 2016 #13
Love that! senz Jan 2016 #15
Clever! ejbr Jan 2016 #16
#jamiedimonsareabuelasbestfriend R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2016 #20
What's always true about Clinton CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #14
Well said, CC. senz Jan 2016 #17
I totally no longer want to hear any of her speeches. Enough! Duval Jan 2016 #40
Have you heard Bernie's speech yet. Most exciting thing so far in this campaign. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #23
Agree! Duval Jan 2016 #41
GOPs are like that. That's their style! Cal33 Jan 2016 #25
*chortle artislife Jan 2016 #44
+1 Paka Jan 2016 #27
CoffeeCat, You're missing HRC's stellar experience: sorechasm Jan 2016 #30
"Hillary Clinton is Misleading People" Maedhros Jan 2016 #18
I think exactly one word too long! hueymahl Jan 2016 #29
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/01/05/the-clintons-paid-speech-bonanza/ stupidicus Jan 2016 #19
K&R on this comment. I just read that Duval Jan 2016 #42
Bernie's speech was fantastic. I listened to it twice. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #22
I'm listening to it for the first time right now. Paka Jan 2016 #28
They are immune to facts and issues. her campaign has two planks Doctor_J Jan 2016 #33
Yooge plus one! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #39
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #24
I suggest a lack of Quorum hootinholler Jan 2016 #31
It's darned hard to criticize that speech or the content if you're a Democrat. There's no libdem4life Jan 2016 #32
No truth to the rumor that she want's to put up billboards saying, "Cut it out." nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #34
The irony is that the only reason HRC supporters can come up with for supporting her and the status rhett o rick Jan 2016 #35
Is anyone really surprised?? Fearless Jan 2016 #36
Clinton's Honesty Problem billhicks76 Jan 2016 #38
K&R! Duval Jan 2016 #43

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
1. Status quo with some "tweaks".
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jan 2016

"In comprehensible English, that means Clinton is advocating minor tweaks to the financial regulation system, instead of its transformation."

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
5. LOL, you are so direct.
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 07:14 PM
Jan 2016

I could learn from you.

(But on the other hand, I want you to be careful, too.)

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
4. Remember how she lost it in the debate when asked about Wall St. connections?
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 07:12 PM
Jan 2016

Interesting that she can't stay rational on the subject.

What a weird primary season this is turning out to be. Just like 2008, when she's slipping, she behaves oddly.

Can you imagine what she'd be like as president? Depressing thought.

 

Green Forest

(232 posts)
10. This type of Big Lie politics is a big reason why I switched my vote from Hillary to Bernie.
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jan 2016

Unlike Barack Obama and Bernie Sanders, I do not believe the Clintons are capable of running an honest campaign or an honest government.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
26. It's called trickle down campaigning
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 09:10 PM
Jan 2016

She sets the example and her sheep, er followers, continue the sliming.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
14. What's always true about Clinton
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 08:32 PM
Jan 2016

is that her campaign isn't about truth. It's about building narratives.

They don't give a damn if what they say is true or false. What matters is the narrative they are trying to stick in the public consciousness.

They'll do and say anything to harm an opponent or leverage themselves. That includes lie, exaggerate, degrade, spread rumors or viciously attack. We saw all of those behaviors. I'm sure we'll see the same in 2016.

Bring it.

sorechasm

(631 posts)
30. CoffeeCat, You're missing HRC's stellar experience:
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:12 PM
Jan 2016

Clinton invites voters to “look at what I did in the Senate,” but, she actually only introduced five bills related to the dangerous housing bubble before/after the ’07 Crash. No committee took any action on them, and, in the Democrat-controlled Senate, “they died without further discussion.”

Hillary Clinton’s words do not reflect her actions.

There is a reason Clinton is receiving money from these financial giants, and in such amounts she feels compelled to lie about their relationship. She will not (and cannot) cut Wall Street’s stranglehold on the majority-generated wealth, in the vein of Theodore Roosevelt or FDR, and so is instead trying to sell minimal reforms as the crackdown that Sanders is championing.


 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
42. K&R on this comment. I just read that
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 06:24 PM
Jan 2016

on Truth-Out. It was a real eye-opener!! Thanks for the link.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
22. Bernie's speech was fantastic. I listened to it twice.
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 08:58 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary supporters. Listen to Sanders' speech and decide for yourselves.

Bernie is right on this one. Very, very right.

And this is important.

He points out that in 2008, African-Americans in the US lost 50% of the wealth that they had accumulated since the end of slavery.

There's a lot more to learn in that speech.

He literally tears apart the corruption that exists in our government and the control that Wall Street exercises over Congress.

Wonderful speech. We need reform.

I knew to keep away from debt during the Clinton era, but some of my friends lost their businesses and homes. They were good people, ran small businesses, kept the faith. I love them. They are my friends. They have never recovered. Several are in their 70s and they will never recover. The pain, the degradation caused to real people because of the "exuberance," the inability to resist gambling by an irresponsible few is so sad to me.

I do not understand the inhumanity of that.

I personally know good people who are bankers. Unfortunately, they are not running any of our too-big-to-fail banks.

Bernie's proposals will spread the risk but also the gain and the opportunity. I'm for it. It is a reform proposal, not an anti-financial-sector proposal.

For one thing, Bernie proposes that ratings agencies should be non-profit. I support that proposal 100%. In fact I would support it a million percent if such a percent were possible. But that's the point isn't it. This is about mathematics. The reform of the financial sector is about math and how to make the math of money work for all of us and for all of our society.

Feel the Bern! He's got so much just downright common sense.

Feel the Bern!

Paka

(2,760 posts)
28. I'm listening to it for the first time right now.
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 09:15 PM
Jan 2016

I plan to do as you and listen again this afternoon. Great speech.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
33. They are immune to facts and issues. her campaign has two planks
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jan 2016

1. She has an "aura of experience/competence"
2. No more white men in the white house

That's it. She falls short of Sanders on every single issue. So an ambitious, specific, progressive plan like Bernie's will not penetrate the bubble.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
32. It's darned hard to criticize that speech or the content if you're a Democrat. There's no
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 10:58 AM
Jan 2016

he said-you said-she said-link-prove it-did to-did-not ....you get the idea . That's where the silly nitpicking gets almost, but not quite funny.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
35. The irony is that the only reason HRC supporters can come up with for supporting her and the status
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jan 2016

quo, is that "she is tough". Well she aint tough on Wall Fracking Street. She is tough on the wrong people.

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