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No wonder Tweety had an hour-long lovefest with Hillary on his show yesterday... (Original Post) Punkingal Jan 2016 OP
Oh wow. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2016 #2
He should disclose such a thing! nt thereismore Jan 2016 #3
I no longer watch MSNBC bvf Jan 2016 #9
Neither do I. Fuddnik Jan 2016 #35
I completely agree with you. bvf Jan 2016 #62
I agree with both of you madokie Jan 2016 #63
I cut the cable cord on 12/31. Kept the high speed internet for Roku. Snotcicles Jan 2016 #65
Odds are good that Jimmy Carter's former speechwriter and Tip O'Neill's former staffer endorses her MADem Jan 2016 #4
Thom Hartmann? Fawke Em Jan 2016 #23
He is NOT!!!!!! He's a PUNDIT, a commentator--and his history and background, as he admits, MADem Jan 2016 #28
hahahahaha exactly! restorefreedom Jan 2016 #36
What does it matter what he is called? Punkingal Jan 2016 #41
Facts matter to some of us. A pundit is not a reporter. nt MADem Jan 2016 #48
Once again, whatever he is called, he has one hour 5 nights a week to advance his agenda. Punkingal Jan 2016 #49
And YOU have a remote with a working channel changer, presumably, if you don't like what he is MADem Jan 2016 #50
I didn't say I was looking for reporting....nor did I say I was puzzled. Punkingal Jan 2016 #52
Then why are you arguing with me? All I said is that he is NOT a reporter. MADem Jan 2016 #53
A quick look through this thread shows bvf Jan 2016 #66
Why thank you! Punkingal Jan 2016 #67
You're quite welcome! bvf Jan 2016 #70
Why don't you pull the string and go looking for this synonym: JOURNALIST. MADem Jan 2016 #68
OK. No need to be so touchy. bvf Jan 2016 #69
He supports Hillary, wouldnt matter if he was a leprechaun in a football helmet randys1 Jan 2016 #51
i think tweety is only a journalist in his own mind restorefreedom Jan 2016 #38
So what about the love fest between Joe Scarborough and Bernie? Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #5
As far as I know, Scarborough doesn't have a wife who's running for Congress and endorsed Bernie. Punkingal Jan 2016 #7
And yet that didn't stop him from fawning all over Bernie! Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #17
Nah...He just treated him respectfully. Coming from Joe Scar whathehell Jan 2016 #34
Somebody should have wiped the drool from Joe Scab's mouth. nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #40
That's mean Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #71
Over react much? whathehell Jan 2016 #72
Love Fest, Seriously? You guys are so cute when you're worried. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #56
'No wonder,' REALLY? elleng Jan 2016 #6
He also managed to get Hillary to plug his book... Human101948 Jan 2016 #8
When Lebanese Terrorists bombed the Marine Barraks in Lebanon, bvar22 Jan 2016 #73
Thanks! Forgot that one for a moment...turned tail and skeedaddled! Human101948 Jan 2016 #74
Must not forget Grenada!!! bvar22 Jan 2016 #75
And I'm glad he did. tazkcmo Jan 2016 #77
He has disclosed it before on his show. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #10
Well, he should have disclosed it again, if he didn't. Punkingal Jan 2016 #12
He also has Republicans on. It would become tedious./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #13
Oh, OK. It would be tedious. Punkingal Jan 2016 #14
It's Chris VanHollen's district, fwiw. elleng Jan 2016 #11
When faced with a challenge, it's always best to focus on the unimportant things. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #15
+ 1 JoePhilly Jan 2016 #16
What crisis are you referring to? Punkingal Jan 2016 #18
Why don't you have more faith in your fellow Democrats to see through their nefarious plans? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #20
Actually, "crisis" is your word, not mine. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #30
Sorry, Freudian slip on the word I used I guess. You did say challenge. Punkingal Jan 2016 #32
obviously it was a subject change in an effort to belittle you stupidicus Jan 2016 #44
Are you suggesting the seminal poster has a penchant for minutiae ? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #19
Does it make you feel good to belittle me? Punkingal Jan 2016 #22
I merely asked a question. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #25
Check this out.... Punkingal Jan 2016 #27
Thank you... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #29
You won't be by me. Punkingal Jan 2016 #31
You mean like this? passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #57
He really should have disclosed that. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #21
Good for you.... Punkingal Jan 2016 #24
Is a 'lovefest' with the person who crowed "We're all Neocons now!" after the Iraq Invasion Maedhros Jan 2016 #26
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #33
Did he and Hillary talk about Trump the whole time? MSNBC is, after all, The Trump Network. nt valerief Jan 2016 #37
No, actually Tweety slobbered about how brave she is, etc. Punkingal Jan 2016 #46
Damn I am glad I don't have TV. zeemike Jan 2016 #54
It would be one thing if they used their connections to better the world CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #42
Thanks for posting Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #43
I saw the clip of his huggy fest with her. Duckfan Jan 2016 #45
Of course she is a progressive . TheFarS1de Jan 2016 #64
well, someone should address this conflict of interest to MSNBC stupidicus Jan 2016 #47
In alternate universe Trump and Hillary would be running in different party, it being called........ nolabels Jan 2016 #55
So? Beacool Jan 2016 #58
He was last night. Punkingal Jan 2016 #59
She's running for president. Beacool Jan 2016 #60
He called her Nurse Ratchet? Punkingal Jan 2016 #61
Tweety is very obviously in Clinton's camp - I don't watch anymore. polichick Jan 2016 #76

Response to Punkingal (Original post)

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
9. I no longer watch MSNBC
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jan 2016

so I'll bookmark this thread to see whether an after-the-fact disclosure/apology is forthcoming from them.

I could check their website, but it rivals Salon's in uselessness and sheer junk.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
62. I completely agree with you.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jan 2016

From his inability to let panelists utter a complete thought without interrupting them, to his constant look-at-me references to his previous "accomplishments," to his smug self-satisfaction whenever he'd thought he'd said something clever and would repeat it at least twice...

Damn it, you got me started!

And despite having said all the above, I hardly watched him either--he's always in asshole mode.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
63. I agree with both of you
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 07:28 PM
Jan 2016

Plus tweety spits all over his guest when he gets all wound up too. I can't stand that

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
65. I cut the cable cord on 12/31. Kept the high speed internet for Roku.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 07:47 PM
Jan 2016

I love it, I should have done it sooner. I saving over $100 a month to boot.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. Odds are good that Jimmy Carter's former speechwriter and Tip O'Neill's former staffer endorses her
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 03:00 PM
Jan 2016

too. Even if he can't and won't say so publicly. It's not like there's a massive surprise there based on history with the Democratic Party--even though he comes from a GOP family in PA. His brother ran for governor on the GOP ticket (lost).

You think the Brunch With Bernie guy endorses Sanders?
Of course he does.

Kathleen Matthews is not a super delegate. She's just a candidate. If anything, SHE needs HRC's help far more than HRC needs hers. She had a small following in the greater DC area owing to her newscaster job, but she'd be preaching to the choir in that milieu anyway--no value added.

Morning Joe had Sanders on this morning. He was on some other show last night. He was on one of the weekend talkers over the weekend.

He's been all over the tube. It's what candidates do.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
23. Thom Hartmann?
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 03:35 PM
Jan 2016

Yes, he says he's voting for Bernie, adds that he likes Hillary, but here's the thing: he's not a journalist. Tweety allegedly is.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. He is NOT!!!!!! He's a PUNDIT, a commentator--and his history and background, as he admits,
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jan 2016

are with the DEMOCRATIC Party.
You cannot possibly believe that Tweety is or has ever been a "reporter" --all he does, all damn day, is OPINE. If he were a reporter he wouldn't be giving his OPINION about the strengths and weaknesses of this one or that one--he'd be "reporting" on the events of the day either from the field or as an anchor.

He is NOT "non-partisan" and anyone who thinks that is whistling in the dark. Al Sharpton isn't either, nor is George Stephanopolous. The minute a talking head says "I think..." they aren't reporting--they are giving their perspective.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
36. hahahahaha exactly!
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jan 2016

does tweety bird even START a sentence ever without saying "i think blah blah blah"?????

this calls for a darrell hammond flashback...in it, "matthews" wastes karl rove, coulter, and a couple of other people

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/hardball-cold-open/2860865

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
41. What does it matter what he is called?
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 04:56 PM
Jan 2016

He has an hour 5 nights a week to blather on and push his agenda.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
49. Once again, whatever he is called, he has one hour 5 nights a week to advance his agenda.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 05:21 PM
Jan 2016

Facts matter to me as well, and that is one of them.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
50. And YOU have a remote with a working channel changer, presumably, if you don't like what he is
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 05:25 PM
Jan 2016

saying.

He is hired and paid by MSNBC to express OPINIONS. They like it when his blood sugar gets a little wonky--he says outrageous things. It's good for ratings.

Anyone who remains "puzzled" as to CM's "lean" has not been paying any attention at all. It's not a secret. People tune in to either agree with him, or be angered by him.

If you're looking for "reportage" from Tweety Bird, you're looking in the wrong bird cage.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
52. I didn't say I was looking for reporting....nor did I say I was puzzled.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 05:35 PM
Jan 2016

I was commenting on the HYPOCRISY. Stop lecturing me or telling me what to do. I have been watching Tweety for years, since he was a columnist for the San Francisco Examiner, long before he had his own show. I even knew he worked for Tip O. Surprised, are you? I'm not stupid, and I don't need you to educate me. You aren't the only person who has been involved in politics for a long time.

It doesn't matter what his title is.....he has a FORUM.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
53. Then why are you arguing with me? All I said is that he is NOT a reporter.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 05:44 PM
Jan 2016

This isn't a subject for debate--it's a fact.

I'm not "lecturing you or telling you what to do" either. If you tell me the sky is polka dotted, I'm going to disabuse you of that notion.

Tweety is not a reporter and he never has been one. And of COURSE he has a "forum." He's had one for years.

And, as I said, you presumably have a working remote to make that forum disappear if you don't like it.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
66. A quick look through this thread shows
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 08:03 PM
Jan 2016

that the only mentions of the word "reporter" are in your own posts.

BTW, his current employer refers to him as a "veteran journalist." If you were to send them an email of complaint, I'm sure they'd give it due attention.

http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/about


MADem

(135,425 posts)
68. Why don't you pull the string and go looking for this synonym: JOURNALIST.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 08:13 PM
Jan 2016



They can call him what they'd like, and he may be a "veteran" of the "journalistic" trenches--but he's a pundit now. He's not a "journalist" in the mode of Cronkite or Morrow, at least not in his position at MSNBC. The information he imparts is imbued with BIAS, and that is why people tune in--they know he is biased, and they either like it, or they want to rail against it.

It's not a bug, it is a feature--but it is what it is.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
69. OK. No need to be so touchy.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 08:26 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Wed Jan 6, 2016, 09:12 PM - Edit history (1)

Synonyms: announcer, broadcaster, columnist, commentator, contributor, correspondent, cub, editor, hack, media person, newspaper person, newsperson, pencil pusher, press, publicist, reporter, scribe, scrivener, stringer, television commentator, writer

Emphasis mine.

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/journalist

ETA:

randys1

(16,286 posts)
51. He supports Hillary, wouldnt matter if he was a leprechaun in a football helmet
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 05:31 PM
Jan 2016

that is all that matters to some.

Anything that has anything to do with Hillary, bad.

etc

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
38. i think tweety is only a journalist in his own mind
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jan 2016

to most everyone else, he is a highly opinionated bloviating "analyst."

but he should have disclosed the facts about his wife...no one would likely care anyway

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
56. Love Fest, Seriously? You guys are so cute when you're worried.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 06:07 PM
Jan 2016

I don't watch Morning Joe, and I didn't see this show, so I won't comment on it other than to say I think it's refreshing that someone who is typically conservative would treat a democratic contender with respect.

It is possible though, that he did this show with Bernie, the way he did, because the show is in trouble and he tried to reach a new audience?

MSNBC Viewers Dump Morning Joe As Scarborough Is Lowest Rated Cable Morning News Show. MSNBC viewers have spoken loudly as Morning Joe's ratings continue to slide. The conservative talker is now the lowest rated morning show on cable news.Jan 27, 2015

elleng

(130,857 posts)
6. 'No wonder,' REALLY?
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 03:00 PM
Jan 2016

He's supported hrc since well before she announced. Who cares that Kathleen Matthews endorsed her, really?

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
8. He also managed to get Hillary to plug his book...
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jan 2016
Tip and the Gipper which he always mentions when commenting on the state of Congress. What he fails to mention is that Reagan would be drummed out o the Republican Party of today. He raised taxes massively (especially on the lowest earning workers), he gave "illegal aliens" full blown amnesty, and he said “no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.” He was referring to the Mulford Act.

(The Mulford Act was a 1967 California bill which repealed a law allowing public carrying of loaded firearms. Named after Republican assemblyman Don Mulford, the bill garnered national attention after the Black Panthers marched bearing arms upon the California State Capitol to protest the bill.[1][2] The bill was signed by Republican California Governor Ronald Reagan and became California penal code 25850 and 171c.)

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
73. When Lebanese Terrorists bombed the Marine Barraks in Lebanon,
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jan 2016

....killing 241 Americans.
Cut & Run Ronnie did the exact right thing.
He didn't hesitate to pull our troops OUT of a country where we were not wanted.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
75. Must not forget Grenada!!!
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jan 2016

Grenada is the only successful Military Incursion we have had since WW2.
We should have a yearly parade celebrating our Great Military Victory in Grenada.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
77. And I'm glad he did.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 03:22 PM
Jan 2016

I was in basic training. They gathered us around and said "No matter what job you were signed up for, you're all infantry now. Go pack."

elleng

(130,857 posts)
11. It's Chris VanHollen's district, fwiw.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jan 2016

(And mine too.) As VanHollen's running for the Senate, for Barbara Milulski's seat, Dems have to run someone.

I support Donna Edwards for the Senate seat.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
18. What crisis are you referring to?
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jan 2016

The one where the media is helping the DNC shove a neo-con Wall Street loving candidate down our throat?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
20. Why don't you have more faith in your fellow Democrats to see through their nefarious plans?
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 03:32 PM
Jan 2016

Thank you in advance.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
30. Actually, "crisis" is your word, not mine.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jan 2016

One would imagine that an experienced politician like Bernie could easily overcome the challenge (my word) that he faces without his followers having to invent grievances, or turn everything into a vast conspiracy, or make tangential excuses to explain why he's so far behind in the polls, and why labor unions, governors, senators and congresspersons have overwhelmingly endorsed Hillary.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
44. obviously it was a subject change in an effort to belittle you
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 05:01 PM
Jan 2016

and anyone else that would agree that an obvious conflict of interests exists here.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
25. I merely asked a question.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jan 2016
Does it make you feel good to belittle me?
I don't do that to you



I merely asked a question and I didn't take umbrage when you and your associate seemingly patronized and laughed at me:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=978419


It's just back and forth. No reason to take this too seriously.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
21. He really should have disclosed that.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 03:33 PM
Jan 2016

When I was reporting, if I was connected in any way to a subject, I pointed it out in the story. Once, our former publisher's son was tried and convicted of murder. We included the fact that he was the son of the newspaper's former publisher in EVERY story. That's just honest journalism.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
26. Is a 'lovefest' with the person who crowed "We're all Neocons now!" after the Iraq Invasion
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 03:42 PM
Jan 2016

really a positive to Liberals?

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
54. Damn I am glad I don't have TV.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 05:51 PM
Jan 2016

Things like that embarrass me.
And Tweety sure knows how to kiss up to power.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
39. It would be one thing if they used their connections to better the world
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 04:38 PM
Jan 2016

But they don't better the world.

Between the murderous wars, the corporate corruption and the total hijacking of our democracy, I doubt our country will survive the next 8 years if one of these sociopaths is elected.

It's sad and sickening.

Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
45. I saw the clip of his huggy fest with her.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jan 2016

He asked what is she? A Democrat or socialist? Her response: "I'm a progressive-Democrat."

Really?

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
47. well, someone should address this conflict of interest to MSNBC
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 05:09 PM
Jan 2016

I'd have thought some sorta disclosure woulda been in order.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
55. In alternate universe Trump and Hillary would be running in different party, it being called........
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 05:54 PM
Jan 2016

The Corporatist Party, a live and FULLY funded entity sanctioned by the SCOTUS and with cash funneled and weaseled out of our effed up tax system that now has as it's largest purpose to subsidize large multinationals.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
58. So?
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 06:12 PM
Jan 2016

He interviews people of both parties. Besides, Matthews is not exactly Hillary's favorite person.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
60. She's running for president.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 06:19 PM
Jan 2016

It's called politics. Matthews is a sexist jerk whose leg tingled for Obama in 2008 and called her "She Devil", "Nurse Ratchet" and some other enlightening monikers.

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