Why Bernie Sanders Doesn’t Want Your Vote
There are a couple of points in this article which I don't agree with but overall it's enlightening, funny, poignant, touching and well balanced, the deeper you get into the column, the better it becomes.
Onstage at New York’s Town Hall on Jan. 5.
Photographer: Jonno Rattman
Sanders has the highest constituent approval rating and lowest disapproval rating among U.S. senators. He spends an inordinate amount of his budget on casework, addressing the individual problems of his voters. Gutman says Sanders deeply embodies Robert Frost’s poem Two Tramps in Mud Time. It takes place during the Depression, and Frost is really, really, really enjoying chopping wood, when two homeless guys come by, hoping he’ll pay them to do it for him:
Only where love and need are one,
And the work is play for mortal stakes,
Is the deed ever really done
For Heaven and the future’s sakes.
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As a gauge of his natural charisma, he came in last of three candidates when running for president of James Madison High School in Brooklyn. During speeches and debates, Sanders jabs with his index finger, an act of aggression seemingly banned from U.S. politics when Bill Clinton took to making a fist and moving his thumb like he was clicking through slides. “Cool, fun presidents have gotten us into trouble,” says Patton Oswalt, a comedian who’s volunteered to introduce Sanders at speeches. “We need the guy in the nontailored suit who just wants to sit at a desk and be boring and get s--- done. George W. Bush was eight years of Michael Scott from The Office, and sometimes I have that problem with Obama.” America, Oswalt believes, is the Bad News Bears and Sanders its Walter Matthau.
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Wade Black, who runs Scarsdale Equities, a boutique investment firm in New York, and donates to Sanders, disagrees. “I think he understands monetary policy. That great harangue he gave Alan Greenspan [in 2003] shows that. He probably has a better understanding of the financial industry than Ben Carson does. He may have a better understanding of how capitalism works than Donald Trump does,” he says. President Sanders, Black believes, will make Wall Street more competitive, so the vitriol against his occupation doesn’t bother him. “It’s a metaphor. There’s not going to be a Kristallnacht in Lower Manhattan. He’s talking about regulation, not shutting down the stock exchange. People turn their logic circuits off as soon as they hear the word ‘socialism.’ ”
Unlike Trump rallies, which have violence in the air, Sanders’s events present a more mellow radicalism. The first thing you learn at a Sanders rally is how many songs there are about revolutions. Before he arrives, the speakers blast Steve Earle’s The Revolution Starts Now and Bob Marley’s Revolution. But the one that best fits the scene at a soccer field in suburban Las Vegas on a foot-numbingly cold night is Tracy Chapman’s Talkin’ Bout a Revolution. She sounds so calm and thoughtful, like nothing is about to happen more violent than a spilled latte, as she strums her guitar and slowly sings:
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In November, Sanders met Killer Mike at a barbershop the rapper owns in Atlanta. They faced each other on giant red leather barber chairs for an hour, as the hip-hop star interviewed the senator. At one point, Killer Mike complimented Sanders on his civil rights work in the 1960s. “That’s some bomb s---. That is absolute dope,” Mike said. Sanders, oddly comfortable as always despite clearly not knowing what any of that meant, responded, “If I can use some bomb s---, we saw our friends getting the s--- kicked out of them and getting beaten to hell. They were the brave ones.” At the end of the hour, Mike shook his head in admiration. “I wish to stay as angry as you,” he said. The rapper said he fears getting soft, but vowed to yell out his barbershop window about injustice after his music career ends.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-bernie-sanders-fundraising/
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Peace to you, Ed Suspicious. 
Peace to you.
invent an addendum, make it something personal about ME, and extrapolate forward from that.
smh.
Murdoch loves to get up in it. That's a fact. He does it in a rather Machiavellian way, too. Sometimes, he'll tout a weaker candidate in order to set 'em up for a stronger candidate. Other times, he'll go full out fanboy (Hello, Georgie Porgie) and put his machine behind an individual.
Not sure why you're pretending you're unaware of this, first, and second, trying to make this about me.
"Disparaging remarks?"
I despair of injecting any maturity into this exchange!!
It's not ABOUT ME. MMMkay???? Here--since you apparently don't understand that the owner of FOX NEWS (the same guy who owns the WSJ) gets up in this shit routinely, I'm giving you some HOMEWORK:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/07/rupert-murdoch-australian-election-2013
http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-sun-win-elections/20827
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/did-britains-right-wing-newspapers-win-the-election-for-the-tories/
If you're still confused, get on your google and have a look at how FOX NEWS has covered every single election since Bush v. Gore.
Please, by all means, continue. 
CoffeeCat: "Bernie has been getting some stellar press from Bloomberg and the WSJ"
You: "Rupert Murdoch owns the WSJ"
You again: "Rupert loves to be a power player, and influence the selection of candidates"
You just now: "Stop speculating about me..."
Tell me again how its just speculation. No, really, keep going, you're on a roll!
...Oh, and you feel persecuted for making your opinions known. Glad you don't feel persecuted. Then you should feel just fine about the following.
What I'm all about is highlighting the stupid insipid shit some people habitually post and expect others to gobble down like so much refuse. You and a number of your fellow hillary supporters go out of your way to imply or infer in any way you can that Bernie Sanders is somehow affiliated or promoted by the likes of Faux Noise or some other extreme right wing group.
I'm done with it. Fed up. Had it. Pick whatever phrase you'd like that conveys extreme exasperation, and I'm there. So yes, This is all about you. You and anyone else spewing this utter crap, as though it held even the smallest grain of truth... which it doesn't.
To hell with your implications.
Provide concrete proof that Murdoch is pushing Bernie Sanders.
Link or slink.
You persist in personal insults, and then, to finish up, you invent a thesis that you claim I advocate in order to paint me as some kind of "bad guy."
I think you need a course correction. If you're all that fed up, there's an ignore button that will solve your problems.
This is a political discussion board--not a cheerleading camp. Get used to it that some people aren't going to agree with you, but responding with cranky, petulant whines and personal invective just makes it look like you don't have any real responses--just name calling.
All that "To hell with...." stuff? Sounds like frustration to me. "Exasperation" you say? If it's that, its born out of not having a constructive argument and having to resort to goading, baiting and insulting in order to have any response at all.
One of these days, you would do well to master the art of disagreeing without being disagreeable.
Summing up your response: You cannot prove Murdoch's trying to promote Bernie... so you're trying character assassination instead. I might have had more respect for you with a more honest response... but I'm sure you're not interested in my respect. But, ya know what? I'm okay with that. Pretty good with it in fact. 
Tell ya what, have yourself a great day!
I am sure you still have no proof that Murdoch is pushing Bernie sanders. The rest of your comment is just dross.
Have a great day!
I'm also sure you have no proof that elves are real--but since I didn't make that assertion EITHER, it's not germane to the conversation. Speaking of "dross."
I always have a great day--I never have an odd need to put words in people's mouths and then berate them about things they never said, that probably is part of what accounts for my good humor!
Don't quit that day job!
"Thanks for playing?" That's exactly what you're doing. It's quite apparent, too.
"Stop speculating about me and attempting to ascribe motives to me. It never ends well." Yeah. Your hypocrisy is showing.
There's no doubt what you're doing, and your continued attempts to goad/bait make it entirely clear.
So, since you refuse to state what you actually meant, I’ll interpret for you… then you can add your two cents or not, as you feel you need.
First, we have the comment from CoffeeCat that Bernie has been getting “stellar press from Bloomberg and the WSJ”.
You comment “Rupert Murdoch owns the WSJ”… which is true, but requires understanding of implication to really get your meaning… otherwise it’s a meaningless statement.
You get challenged to state your point rather than beat around the bush… to which you reply
“Rupert loves to be a power player, and influence the selection of candidates “
That right there clearly and loudly states your thoughts. You think Murdoch is pushing Bernie Sanders. No need to infer, no implication… a straight 1+1=2 equation here.
I call you on it. Your reaction? You say “Stop speculating about me”… so apparently using your own words is speculation. Right.
I especially love this part “Try talking issues instead of constantly resorting to personal snark” as if taking the high road. Later in the conversation, you’ll prove yourself a hypocrite by not holding yourself to the same standard. Way to go!
At this point, I have to admit, I was a bit surprised. You don’t normally double down on being wrong on your overall point.
“WSJ """"IS"""" owned by Rupert Murdoch, who likes to play in politics. And has so done for YEARS.
If you think that is an insignificant detail, you go on and ignore the links, and dismiss the fact as irrelevant.”
As if the links have anything at all to do with Bernie Sanders… all they establish is that Murdoch has an established history of trying to influence foreign countries. Yet somehow this is supposed to be connected to Bernie Sanders.
This only works through some extreme reach of logic… because, let’s not forget your point (again, using your own words) “Rupert Murdoch owns the WSJ” and “Rupert loves to be a power player, and influence the selection of candidates”. The obvious and natural implication here is you believe Murdoch is trying to push Bernie Sanders… since Murdoch owns the WSJ and the WSJ has had stellar coverage of Bernie as late.
I won’t bother going into the rest of the thread as it’s mostly just deflection after deflection after this,
capped off with your refusal to clarify your position.
So, there ya go. Nice and tidy for ya.
And now, I’m done with the conversation, and you, so you can continue your character assassination attempt or denial or whatever you feel you need to add.
I yield the last word to you.
Oh, and…. Have a great day!
The last word? It's SEA LION!
Peace to you, MADem.
They do drugs, they get into trouble, but they get everything they want because there are no parents giving them discipline.
At some point they might just get bored with it. It's almost as if they need someone to scold them.
Peace to you.
Peace to you.
Peace to you.
Peace to you.
as to whether you were a member of the clique, gang, tribe, party etc. etc.
On a larger scale, it reminds me of many Republicans or conservatives obsession with nationalism or American Exceptionalism.
Ideals, policy and even pragmatism are put on the back burner in deference to the colors.
On a national level, I also have no doubt, there are some that would be adversely affected by Bernie's policies targeting the 1% and it becomes a matter of self-interest; whether that be economic or political.
Peace to you, mountain grammy.
would run for President.
Bernie is passionate about policy and making the U.S. a better nation.
Considering Bernie's extensive track record and brutal honesty, I don't believe his supporters will so quickly turn against him, they know he's committed to the cause, they also know as Bernie has stated, he can't do it alone, this will be an uphill fight and we're in it for the long haul.
President Obama was a relative newcomer to the scene by comparison and his track record was much more unknown.
Peace to you, Arkana.
You got it, pangaia.
I wouldn't call Bernie particularly "angry." The word "anger" carries connotations that don't apply to Bernie's personality. Of the synonyms for "anger" listed in Roget's Thesaurus, I'd select indignation and outrage, both of which apply to his response to how the 1% damaged the 99%, not to his basic personality which is pretty mellow without being the least bit unctuous.
Remember when I posted an entire Roget's list in one of your threads, and you politely thanked me for it? 
He loves the American People no matter their race, gender, religion, sexual orientation or any other superficial externality.
This love feeds his single minded commitment to policies that will better the peoples' lives.
His commitment to these reformation policies come through in his passionate beliefs and rhetoric against the great economic disparities and racial injustice facing the American People.
All of the above love, commitment and passion sustain his courage in taking on the behemoth of corrupting, wealthy and powerful forces arrayed against him and the people.
His focus to reformative policies are as a laser and he will not be deterred.
Peace to you, senz.
Peace to you, winter is coming.