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Botany

(70,490 posts)
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 12:03 PM Jan 2016

Just in time for the 2016 Election a full length movie about Benghazi

The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi 2016 film
Six members of the Annex Security Team defend the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, from an attack by Islamic militants.
Release date: January 15, 2016 (USA)
Director: Michael Bay
MPAA rating: R
Production company: Platinum Dunes
Producers: Michael Bay, Erwin Stoff

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W/out even seeing this movie or reading about it how do I know there will be something in it
about trying to call for support or wanting to go and save the good guys but a "stand down order"
kept the heroes from saving the day?

The right is trying to go after Hillary w/the big lie* act and so even though both the Benghazi
attack/stand down order story and what about Hilary's emails have been proven to be bullshit
those memes are gonna be pushed 24/7.

* “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." J. Goebbels

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Just in time for the 2016 Election a full length movie about Benghazi (Original Post) Botany Jan 2016 OP
This really isn't surprising. tymorial Jan 2016 #1
And the story that w went AWOL and was a coke head became ... Botany Jan 2016 #3
Despite my loathing for Bush tymorial Jan 2016 #5
I think it's more cynical than that el_bryanto Jan 2016 #7
That ol' librul Hollywood just doin' it's thing. eom Mika Jan 2016 #2
No one should be surprised. As soon as I saw the movie adverts, I knew. nc4bo Jan 2016 #4
I suspect it will do as well at the box office as the 'Left Behind' series comradebillyboy Jan 2016 #6
Guaranteed Box Office Bomb. MineralMan Jan 2016 #8
It's a replay of Dinesh D'Souzas ZOMG blockbuster sufrommich Jan 2016 #11
Numbers is projecting 70 mill against 50 mill budget JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #14
I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you! sonofspy777 Jan 2016 #9
I hear Ted Nugent is going to play Gowdy. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #10
But it's "A True Story"! The trailer says so. Bernin4U Jan 2016 #12
The Numbers web site . . . JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #13
This movie may not preform a well Runningdawg Jan 2016 #15

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
1. This really isn't surprising.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 12:25 PM
Jan 2016

The use of media (entertainment and "journalism&quot as a political blunt object is common place in this country and has been for quite sometime. The timing of this doesn't surprise me and quite frankly, all feelings about Bush aside, the timing of the Killian Document 60 Minutes in 04 wasn't surprising.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
3. And the story that w went AWOL and was a coke head became ...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jan 2016

.... but what about Dan Rather?


This new Benghazi movie is a hit piece to use against Hillary end of story.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
5. Despite my loathing for Bush
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jan 2016

I believe the goal of the 60 Minute spot was the same. We can agree to disagree.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
7. I think it's more cynical than that
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 01:07 PM
Jan 2016

I think that Michael Bay and those financing this movie are hoping to tap into resentment against liberals and Clinton to sell their movie; they may see trashing Clinton as a nice side effect, but at the end of the day it's all about making money. So they get it two ways. 1) people who want to see an action flick and don't care about the politics 2) people who do care about the politics and want to see a movie in which heroic soldiers stand up to cowardly liberal politicians.

Bryant

comradebillyboy

(10,143 posts)
6. I suspect it will do as well at the box office as the 'Left Behind' series
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 01:02 PM
Jan 2016

or the latest 'Atlas Shrugged' remake. Right wing propaganda movies are just not very entertaining.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
8. Guaranteed Box Office Bomb.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 01:48 PM
Jan 2016

If it opens at all on more than a dozen screens nationally, I'll be surprised.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
11. It's a replay of Dinesh D'Souzas ZOMG blockbuster
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 01:51 PM
Jan 2016

that was going to take Obame down in 2012,it will have the same results.

JustAnotherGen

(31,811 posts)
14. Numbers is projecting 70 mill against 50 mill budget
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 02:38 PM
Jan 2016

And a word of mouth marketing scheme. I haven't seen one trailer or ad for this outside of the Numbers site.

Bernin4U

(812 posts)
12. But it's "A True Story"! The trailer says so.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 02:08 PM
Jan 2016

And very interesting timing too. Theaters by the primaries, and home video by the general.

JustAnotherGen

(31,811 posts)
13. The Numbers web site . . .
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 02:36 PM
Jan 2016

http://www.the-numbers.com/news/210690830-2016-Preview-January
13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi


13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi poster
Trailer: Click to Play
Official Site: ThirteenHoursMovie.com
Distributor: Paramount Pictures
Release Date: January 15th, 2016
MPAA Rating: R for strong combat violence throughout, bloody images, and language.
Source: Based on Factual Book/Article
Genre: Drama
Keywords: Libya, 2010s, Terrorism
Directed By: Michael Bay
Written By: Chuck Hogan, Mitchell Zuckoff
Starring: John Krasinski, James Badge Dale, Max Martini
Production Budget: Reported at $50 million
Box Office Potential: $70 million


The last time Michael Bay made a movie based on real life events was 2001, when he made Pearl Harbor. That film cost a bundle to make and it made a significant profit. However, it didn't live up to expectations and a lot of people attacked the film for being historically inaccurate. This time around, that historical inaccuracy might be a selling point. I get the feeling the target audience for this movie wants a shameless pro-military propaganda piece. Because of this, there is a wide margin of error here. It could earn less money than Pain and Gain earned, or it could be a surprise $100 million hit. I think the lower end is more likely, but it will really depend on the film's word-of-mouth amongst its intended audience.




Paramount previously released American Sniper and Lone Survivor. I couldn't make it past the first 20 minutes of either -just no my genre. I prefer The Big Red One or A Bridge Too Far to either of those. So not likely to see this - but a bit of insight into Michael Bay's approach (not a fan of his flicks in general either): http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/06/movies/13-hours-gives-benghazi-attack-cinematic-treatment.html?_r=0


The Numbers is pretty good at trying to id your potential reader at the studio or production company if you have a screenplay concept. What I can't find is the number of screens. The numbers is targeting a potential 70 mill on a 50 mill production. . . That's a financial flop. The Studio doesn't even begin to break even - so why make it in the first place?

Read the NYT piece if you get the chance. . . little of Obama and they are 'telling us' very little political approach but that's kind of hard to believe considering their last two 'big war flicks'.

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
15. This movie may not preform a well
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 02:50 PM
Jan 2016

as right-wing propaganda has in the past. The RW is scared of its own shadow. I don't think they are too keen on leaving their weapons behind to enter a movie theater.

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