2016 Postmortem
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Dem debate criteria announced: must reach an average of 5 % either nationally or in Iowa, NH or SC in 5 recent polls recognized by NBC
Gabriel Debenedetti @gdebenedetti 4m4 minutes ago
Just in: @MartinOMalley is in very serious danger of not making the debate stage on January 17. Story with @POLITICO_Steve coming shortly.
**update**
DNC says it expects him on stage
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)If we had 13 or more candidates, it might be an issue, but with three, he should be there.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Gawdless Pinko Lib
(75 posts)Is this even an issue?
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)in the next debate due to his poll numbers.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251983829
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251983819
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)I look forward to seeing him in the debates.
liberal from boston
(856 posts)Totally agree Agnosticsherbet!!!
FSogol
(45,476 posts)The DNC decides. O'Malley will be there.
The media is trying to pick the two candidates who will face off with each other in the general to boost their bottom lines.. and that is how I feel about that
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... conditions to "make room" on stage for a dozen or so unqualified candidates.
Give me a break! He deserves to be up there as much as Bernie does, and I hope he will be!
fbc
(1,668 posts)Or should Ed O'Donnell also be included?
https://www.facebook.com/Ed-ODonnell-for-President-142827705827617/
How about the 50 or so other declared candidates?
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)But it does seem a little silly to impose such restrictions on a 3 person race.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)While I get what they are doing, our party gets stronger the more air time O'Malley has.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)NBC made a very stupid and pointless decision.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I think he has a Napoleon complex.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Glamrock
(11,795 posts)He's nothing but a well paid poll reader.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)stage left
(2,961 posts)I want to see O'Malley in the debate as well.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)Is the reason to eliminate him from the debate
in any form more profitable to the media?
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)There are only three Democrats running, O'Malley should be allowed on the stage.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)global1
(25,241 posts)She should demand NBC to include all three candidates and threaten to pull the debate from NBC if they exclude O'Malley.
Although I'm thinking she would be ok if only Hillary was allowed to be in the debate and the other two were excluded by NBC.
Ellen Forradalom
(16,159 posts)He's a candidate.
Besides, It's not like there's a clown car like across the aisle.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)1monster
(11,012 posts)for us, nor narrowing the field. Their job is to report events, not shape them.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)Last edited Fri Jan 8, 2016, 02:22 PM - Edit history (1)
I support Bernie, who would benefit the most by MOM dropping out. Having said that, MOM needs to be on that stage!
I do not wish to live under this corporate rule! They have been used to giving us the candidates to choose from. They do it mostly by deciding who gets campaign money and who doesn't. Now they want to eliminate MOM and Bernie because they are not playing the game. I say FU to that!
We are going to win and regain Representative Democracy! We are going to have Publicly Funded Elections and bust up the media and banking oligarchs. We need some laws to protect us from being propagandize over our own public airwaves. Their day of reckoning is coming soon!
Glamrock
(11,795 posts)Agree wholeheartedly
demwing
(16,916 posts)O'Malley helps legitimize Bernie's message. The more populist voices that are given a mic, the more Hillary seems out of touch and isolated by her corporate ties.
okasha
(11,573 posts)O'Malley should be in the debate.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Metric System
(6,048 posts)Metric System
(6,048 posts)hay rick
(7,605 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)I am a Bernie supporter, but I firmly believe all our candidates should be in the debate, and given equal time.
elleng
(130,865 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)zazen
(2,978 posts)I'm a huge Bernie supporter, but the vast difference in level of debate among our three candidates as opposed to the 4th grade level vitriol among the Republicans (well, Rand is maybe at 11th grade) advances our country as a whole.
Any of them would be better than the Clown Car occupants, though Hillary would be similarly corporatist--she'd just be more liberal on non-economic social issues, which is necessary but insufficient.
And I'd to hear more about O'Malley's reforms of the healthcare system in Maryland. Apparently their results to date are very promising.
Every time they articulate their positions they help bring our country back from this dangerous protofascist abyss. I look forward to O'Malley continuing to serve in some sort of public office, including possibly the White House at some point in the 2020s.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Some folks get the idea that anyone running against her is being disloyal.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)the air time the clowns on the other side (who have absolutely ZERO chance of winning) are receiving.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)As long as he's a declared candidate for the Democratic Convention, he should participate in the debates. We are not Republicans. We are Democrats.
I fully support his participation in all debates.
fbc
(1,668 posts)He's a declared Democratic candidate too. There are somewhere between 50-100 declared candidates.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)I have no idea, but I suspect his candidacy is satirical in nature, really.
If he's serious, why not? I don't care. I do hope he wears his boot hat, though, if he does show up.
stone space
(6,498 posts)It is far too important, in my mind, to exclude and be silenced, regardless of which candidate one prefers.
elleng
(130,865 posts)which is likely one reason dnc/dws have done what they can to minimize him.
demwing
(16,916 posts)fuck the NBC rules, democracy is more important
fbc
(1,668 posts)He's gotten to pretend he's an actual viable candidate for several debates now. He's not.
There are only two candidates in this race. If it was a crowded field like on the other side of the aisle, then his small numbers would be more significant, but that is not the case. If he can't get more than 5% in a three person race then he's not a legitimate candidate. He's a nothing more than a distraction at this point, taking time away from the two legitimate candidates. Granted, he's not much of a distraction, but a distraction nonetheless.
stonecutter357
(12,695 posts)bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)But if he only gets less than %5 in Iowa and New Hampshire, then--if he hasn't dropped out-- he needs to be taken off the stage.
stone space
(6,498 posts)I'm reminded how quickly the only two candidates supporting marriage equality were not allowed to participate in Democratic Debates in 2007 even before the Iowa Caucus.
Voices for full marriage equality were totally absent from the Democratic debates in 2008 as a result, this despite the fact that Iowa's first legal Gay Marriage had occurred earlier that fall in the middle of the campaign leading up to the Iowa Caucus.
In effect, one entire side of the debate over marriage equality was shut out of the debates.
Gothmog
(145,129 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)He adds a lot to the discussion.