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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 12:43 PM Jan 2016

I stand by MOM in his right to be on the debate stage and ask all Clinton supporters to stand by me




Yes-that's the great man signing!




Hadas Gold ‏@Hadas_Gold 17m17 minutes ago

Dem debate criteria announced: must reach an average of 5 % either nationally or in Iowa, NH or SC in 5 recent polls recognized by NBC


Gabriel Debenedetti ‏@gdebenedetti 4m4 minutes ago
Just in: @MartinOMalley is in very serious danger of not making the debate stage on January 17. Story with @POLITICO_Steve coming shortly.

**update**

DNC says it expects him on stage











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I stand by MOM in his right to be on the debate stage and ask all Clinton supporters to stand by me (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 OP
I want O'Malley up on the stage. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #1
Precisely DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #2
Of course! Gawdless Pinko Lib Jan 2016 #17
Several articles have been posted saying that O'Malley does not meet NBC's criteria for inclusion Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #24
And the news analysis says he does... brooklynite Jan 2016 #35
News analysis has been known to be wrong. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #56
Martin O'Malley liberal from boston Jan 2016 #22
Unlike the Republican party, news organizations don't get to dictate who appears in our debates. FSogol Jan 2016 #3
^^^^^^^ Peacetrain Jan 2016 #36
Of COURSE he should be there! It's not like anyone actually needs to invent arbitrary ... NurseJackie Jan 2016 #4
Actually they do need to create conditions for inclusion fbc Jan 2016 #48
I wouldn't say he has a "right" firebrand80 Jan 2016 #5
K&R NCTraveler Jan 2016 #6
He should definitely be on stage. MoonRiver Jan 2016 #7
Chuck Todd is acting like a petulant tyrant./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #8
I've really learned to loathe that guy. MoonRiver Jan 2016 #10
I never was a fan of his./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #13
Chuck Turd is no journalist. Glamrock Jan 2016 #25
I love polls but he's a walking banality./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #57
K&R stage left Jan 2016 #9
I agree totally: He should be there! sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #11
I agree! leftofcool Jan 2016 #12
Yes, he should be in the debate. Beacool Jan 2016 #14
Unlike the GOP field there are only three candidates so he should be allowed to debate. book_worm Jan 2016 #15
One MOM=Ten GOP CLOWNS/nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #16
Well Let's See Just How Effective DWS Is Here..... global1 Jan 2016 #18
Of course he should be there. Ellen Forradalom Jan 2016 #19
Yes, he should be there. n/t Nonhlanhla Jan 2016 #20
Agreed. I do not believe the "news"media should be choosing our candidates 1monster Jan 2016 #21
+1!!! Part of the corporate selection of who we can vote for! Dustlawyer Jan 2016 #23
Yeah! Glamrock Jan 2016 #28
I wouldn't be so sure that Bernie benefits the most from MO'Ms absence demwing Jan 2016 #47
Not NBC's decision. okasha Jan 2016 #26
i agree. La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2016 #27
Agreed. Metric System Jan 2016 #29
Agreed. Metric System Jan 2016 #30
Disappointing. nt hay rick Jan 2016 #31
Of course Martin O'Malley must be on the debate stage, and the mods must call on him equally peacebird Jan 2016 #32
If ONLY they WOULD call on him equally. elleng Jan 2016 #41
I stand with you. k&r. It was bad enough that Lessig was excluded JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #33
agreed, for same reason we need twice as many debates: EACH HELPS US zazen Jan 2016 #34
Hillary wanted to run unopposed.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #37
Pathetic to think that he even might be omitted from debating, given bullwinkle428 Jan 2016 #38
Of course he should be on stage. MineralMan Jan 2016 #39
Do you support Vermin Supreme's right to be in the debate? fbc Jan 2016 #46
Does he want to be in the debate? MineralMan Jan 2016 #49
O'Malley's voice on some issues has moved the whole field to the left. stone space Jan 2016 #40
He HAS moved the field to the left, elleng Jan 2016 #42
Let the man speak demwing Jan 2016 #43
I disagree. He's had his time. fbc Jan 2016 #44
he should be there. stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #45
I support including him in the debates--for now bluestateguy Jan 2016 #50
No reason to exclude him even then. stone space Jan 2016 #53
I also think that MOM should participate in this debate Gothmog Jan 2016 #51
K&R one_voice Jan 2016 #52
Hell yes. I rec'd earlier, kicking now. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #54
K&R! ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #55
K&R. Of course he should be included. eom lunamagica Jan 2016 #58
Absofuckinglutely!! eridani Jan 2016 #59

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
1. I want O'Malley up on the stage.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jan 2016

If we had 13 or more candidates, it might be an issue, but with three, he should be there.

FSogol

(45,476 posts)
3. Unlike the Republican party, news organizations don't get to dictate who appears in our debates.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 12:49 PM
Jan 2016

The DNC decides. O'Malley will be there.

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
36. ^^^^^^^
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 02:10 PM
Jan 2016

The media is trying to pick the two candidates who will face off with each other in the general to boost their bottom lines.. and that is how I feel about that

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
4. Of COURSE he should be there! It's not like anyone actually needs to invent arbitrary ...
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 12:50 PM
Jan 2016

... conditions to "make room" on stage for a dozen or so unqualified candidates.

Give me a break! He deserves to be up there as much as Bernie does, and I hope he will be!

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
48. Actually they do need to create conditions for inclusion
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 03:17 PM
Jan 2016

Or should Ed O'Donnell also be included?

https://www.facebook.com/Ed-ODonnell-for-President-142827705827617/

How about the 50 or so other declared candidates?

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
11. I agree totally: He should be there!
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 12:57 PM
Jan 2016

Is the reason to eliminate him from the debate
in any form more profitable to the media?

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
14. Yes, he should be in the debate.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 01:02 PM
Jan 2016

There are only three Democrats running, O'Malley should be allowed on the stage.


global1

(25,241 posts)
18. Well Let's See Just How Effective DWS Is Here.....
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jan 2016

She should demand NBC to include all three candidates and threaten to pull the debate from NBC if they exclude O'Malley.

Although I'm thinking she would be ok if only Hillary was allowed to be in the debate and the other two were excluded by NBC.

Ellen Forradalom

(16,159 posts)
19. Of course he should be there.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jan 2016

He's a candidate.

Besides, It's not like there's a clown car like across the aisle.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
21. Agreed. I do not believe the "news"media should be choosing our candidates
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 01:19 PM
Jan 2016

for us, nor narrowing the field. Their job is to report events, not shape them.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
23. +1!!! Part of the corporate selection of who we can vote for!
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 01:33 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Fri Jan 8, 2016, 02:22 PM - Edit history (1)

I support Bernie, who would benefit the most by MOM dropping out. Having said that, MOM needs to be on that stage!
I do not wish to live under this corporate rule! They have been used to giving us the candidates to choose from. They do it mostly by deciding who gets campaign money and who doesn't. Now they want to eliminate MOM and Bernie because they are not playing the game. I say FU to that!
We are going to win and regain Representative Democracy! We are going to have Publicly Funded Elections and bust up the media and banking oligarchs. We need some laws to protect us from being propagandize over our own public airwaves. Their day of reckoning is coming soon!

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
47. I wouldn't be so sure that Bernie benefits the most from MO'Ms absence
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 03:15 PM
Jan 2016

O'Malley helps legitimize Bernie's message. The more populist voices that are given a mic, the more Hillary seems out of touch and isolated by her corporate ties.


peacebird

(14,195 posts)
32. Of course Martin O'Malley must be on the debate stage, and the mods must call on him equally
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 01:49 PM
Jan 2016

I am a Bernie supporter, but I firmly believe all our candidates should be in the debate, and given equal time.

zazen

(2,978 posts)
34. agreed, for same reason we need twice as many debates: EACH HELPS US
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 02:02 PM
Jan 2016

I'm a huge Bernie supporter, but the vast difference in level of debate among our three candidates as opposed to the 4th grade level vitriol among the Republicans (well, Rand is maybe at 11th grade) advances our country as a whole.

Any of them would be better than the Clown Car occupants, though Hillary would be similarly corporatist--she'd just be more liberal on non-economic social issues, which is necessary but insufficient.

And I'd to hear more about O'Malley's reforms of the healthcare system in Maryland. Apparently their results to date are very promising.

Every time they articulate their positions they help bring our country back from this dangerous protofascist abyss. I look forward to O'Malley continuing to serve in some sort of public office, including possibly the White House at some point in the 2020s.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
37. Hillary wanted to run unopposed....
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 02:24 PM
Jan 2016

Some folks get the idea that anyone running against her is being disloyal.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
38. Pathetic to think that he even might be omitted from debating, given
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 02:38 PM
Jan 2016

the air time the clowns on the other side (who have absolutely ZERO chance of winning) are receiving.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
39. Of course he should be on stage.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 02:40 PM
Jan 2016

As long as he's a declared candidate for the Democratic Convention, he should participate in the debates. We are not Republicans. We are Democrats.

I fully support his participation in all debates.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
46. Do you support Vermin Supreme's right to be in the debate?
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 03:12 PM
Jan 2016

He's a declared Democratic candidate too. There are somewhere between 50-100 declared candidates.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
49. Does he want to be in the debate?
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 03:26 PM
Jan 2016

I have no idea, but I suspect his candidacy is satirical in nature, really.

If he's serious, why not? I don't care. I do hope he wears his boot hat, though, if he does show up.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
40. O'Malley's voice on some issues has moved the whole field to the left.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 02:52 PM
Jan 2016

It is far too important, in my mind, to exclude and be silenced, regardless of which candidate one prefers.


elleng

(130,865 posts)
42. He HAS moved the field to the left,
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 03:02 PM
Jan 2016

which is likely one reason dnc/dws have done what they can to minimize him.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
44. I disagree. He's had his time.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 03:10 PM
Jan 2016

He's gotten to pretend he's an actual viable candidate for several debates now. He's not.

There are only two candidates in this race. If it was a crowded field like on the other side of the aisle, then his small numbers would be more significant, but that is not the case. If he can't get more than 5% in a three person race then he's not a legitimate candidate. He's a nothing more than a distraction at this point, taking time away from the two legitimate candidates. Granted, he's not much of a distraction, but a distraction nonetheless.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
50. I support including him in the debates--for now
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jan 2016

But if he only gets less than %5 in Iowa and New Hampshire, then--if he hasn't dropped out-- he needs to be taken off the stage.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
53. No reason to exclude him even then.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 04:47 PM
Jan 2016

I'm reminded how quickly the only two candidates supporting marriage equality were not allowed to participate in Democratic Debates in 2007 even before the Iowa Caucus.

Voices for full marriage equality were totally absent from the Democratic debates in 2008 as a result, this despite the fact that Iowa's first legal Gay Marriage had occurred earlier that fall in the middle of the campaign leading up to the Iowa Caucus.

In effect, one entire side of the debate over marriage equality was shut out of the debates.


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