2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBreaking: Justin Bieber Endorses Sanders
by Millie Neal
Following the public announcement by former tween celebrity Justin Bieber endorsing Bernie Sanders in his primary race for the Democratic nomination, Sanders saw a sharp drop in poll numbers in both Iowa and New Hampshire. A call to Sanders campaign leaders brought a quick response.
A campaign official high in the Sanders hierarchy said, "We categorically reject the endorsement of this has-been entertainer. We are strongly supported by millennial voters and they tell us that Justin Bieber is so five years ago."
Bieber responded with, "Yeah, whatevs. Maybe I'll switch to Trump. I like his hair." He then sped off in his Ferrari 488 Spyder, but got only two blocks before totaling it into a power pole.
http://www.newsyoushouldntbelieve.com
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leftofcool
(19,460 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)That is impossible to believe. Ok so he's a little weird but to turn his back on this guy with his legions of fans doesn't seem realistic.
TSIAS
(14,689 posts)Seems like DU'ers are falling hook, line, and sinker.
I don't think Bieber's fans are old enough to vote, anyway.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I would have really been disappointed in Bernie to do this. Glad all is well and this is rubbish.
Segami
(14,923 posts)ffr
(22,665 posts)Not a fan of the kid. Can't stop him from doing it, but I'd just let it slide under the radar.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)him. I have 3 millennials closely related to me and have never heard them say his name once. I do keep up with today's music because of them. Even the one who LOVES Country music! I'm more inclined to Adele and Lana Del Rey and more like them, hard to keep up with all the new groups. I STILL subscribe to Rolling Stone magazine, and they have covered a little of him lately. He kind of said he did some really stupid things, finally admitting the obvious. I don't know, could be he's growing out of his "stuff!"
But you never know, just think a younger crowd are his groupies. And I admit I may very well be wrong. Not sure the campaign could have ignored it because of his past antics which were really stupid and over the top! Saying nothing would have had many HERE jumping all over this with some very dumb, stupid comments. WOW, this is a "caught in-between a rock and a hard place" situation.
I'll take Susan Sarandon any day!
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Sign or something.
I assume "alcohol was involved."
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Though I suppose he could just be high on himself.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)alcohol in it. He thought he was taking mescaline, instead. It's so not his fault. Really.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)("For every ill, Mezcal, and for every good as well." .
I once tried to convince a girlfriend who wanted me to eat more healthy, that because the Hypopta agavis larva in many bottles had protein Mezcal should be considered a meat.
Sadly, she did not agree.
Mezcal may have been responsible for that attempt.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)Better to have some tacos de lengua con su mezcal.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)MineralMan
(146,282 posts)Hmm...
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)anyway, that is the one that comes to mind when I think of unwanted endorsements. And, yes, it is my bigotry against young singers with a responsibility issues.
TSIAS
(14,689 posts)It's from the website "News You Shouldn't Believe".
Hard to tell, but it appears to be satire.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)MineralMan
(146,282 posts)Truth can come from anywhere. I give you The Drudge Report as a shining example of a website some foolishly take as truth.
Knowing what is or is not true is hard these days.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)"We're weird is what we are. Take what you find here with whatever amount of salt you wish. Is this news? Is it not? Who can say? We have no comment. All posts on this website can be freely shared, with a link back to the source."
I think it's bullshit.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)who can you trust, after all. She's a leading young journalist, I understand.
SixString
(1,057 posts)And a weak attempt at satire.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)I'm not sure I completely agree with your review of the site, though. To each his or her own, though, I suppose.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)I've certainly seen worse.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,659 posts)And not an especially clever one, at that.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I wonder why they named the site that.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)Who knows?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)"Bernie Sanders Has Won Secret Primary Elections"
"Bernie Sanders Announces Plan for Vermont Cabin on White House Grounds"
"Donald Trump Unexpectedly Switches Parties: 'Republicans are Losers!'"
Yeah, gee, I guess I should be utterly mystified as to why this "news" is not the lead item on TMZ or other entertainment news sites.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)There's no accounting for odd things, sometimes.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)MineralMan
(146,282 posts)I think the name is pretty descriptive of the nature of what appears on it.
It's interesting that so many people miss that, don't you think?
morningfog
(18,115 posts)MineralMan
(146,282 posts)I do appreciate the time you've spent on this thread, though, and the kicks.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)"We're weird is what we are. Take what you find here with whatever amount of salt you wish. Is this news? Is it not? Who can say? We have no comment. All posts on this website can be freely shared, with a link back to the source."
Probably bullshit.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)zalinda
(5,621 posts)This is supposed to be humor? This website is not even close to the Onion.
I really didn't think someone could stoop so low, but once again I was proven wrong.
Z
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)MineralMan
(146,282 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)of being funny...... don't be too harsh at least he tries.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)NYSB is based not far from there, in the Twin Cities of Minnesota. So, closer than you suspect, perhaps. Of course, the current headquarters of The Onion are in Chicago, but that's not all that far from MN, either.
Oh, well...
cali
(114,904 posts)And there are super cute selfies to prove it.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)I suppose some people think they're useful.
cali
(114,904 posts)MineralMan
(146,282 posts)Thanks for participating in this thread. I appreciate it.
Segami
(14,923 posts)showcasing her (cough, cough) talents.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)You just made her the "butt" of the joke! LOL! Oh NO, that was so bad of me, smack my mouth!
Segami
(14,923 posts)I would add a few more thoughts to your words BUTT, I don't want to be accused of piling on her........
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)So, kind of expected.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)what we sit on. I gotta log off or I'll never stop and will get into trouble!
merrily
(45,251 posts)Gothmog
(145,046 posts)So far, Nate is only giving points for endorsements from Governors, US Senators and Congresspersons http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)Or aren't, as the case may be.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Congratulations; this is hilarious!
And the posts here are even funnier.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)litlbilly
(2,227 posts)MineralMan
(146,282 posts)Really...
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)MineralMan
(146,282 posts)Nothing from the site at the link in this OP has any credibility at all. That's clear from everything, beginning with the site's name. It's a satire website. It's interesting that you find it necessary to post about credibility with regard to that site.
Nothing authored by someone with the name Millie Neal has any credibility. Humor perhaps, but humor is in the eye of the beholder.
On the other hand, when I post serious things here, you can freely dispute them, but there's no dispute about the credibility of an obvious satirical website. It is what it is, and I make no effort to conceal the nature of articles on that site.
Thanks for the gratuitous insult, though. I appreciate the effort.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)We've heard rumors. Some people say he's just an old secret service man who lost his decoder ring down the disposal and now just scours the intertubes for satire.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)I know exactly where my decoder ring is, and if I forget sometimes due to my advanced decrepitude, my dear wife can always find it for me. She's much younger than I am.
You can rely on me at all times. Truly. I'm very reliable, indeed. Now, what was I writing about...I forget...
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)It's interesting that people think it's making fun of Bernie Sanders, instead of Justin Bieber, which is really the goal, along with poking at celebrity endorsements in general. I'm always amused by people taking any celebrity endorsement seriously.
I find all of this to be very entertaining, really. I can't imagine how I'd telegraph the satirical nature of that blog any more obviously, really. Yet, people take it seriously so often that I stand, mouth agape in wonder at times.
I can't imagine what would happen if I actually tried to be subtle with a satirical posting.
Millie Neal? How more obvious could I be?
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)MineralMan
(146,282 posts)instance of the encoding to display the smilie.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)MineralMan
(146,282 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)and if I recall he's Canadian too!
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)Next time I see him, I'll suggest that he consider his countryman first.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)according to www.commentsyoushouldn'ttakeseriously.com
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)"Yeah, whatevs."
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MineralMan
(146,282 posts)Others, not so much. People are strange. What is funny to some is nauseating to others. Who am I to judge?
I leave such things to those who bother to click on the thread. To each his/her own, I guess. Laugh if you are moved to do so.
Thanks very much for asking, though.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,319 posts)For a joke to be funny, it has to have an angle. An element of truth or be really witty or maybe even really absurd.
Ha ha Bieber endorsed Sanders and Bieber is stupid. Ha ha.
This is not the first "news you can't believe in" piece that I've seen fall really flat.
Who is that republican "comic" guy? Fillmore or something?
This seems like one of his. They go something like "ha ha Obama is stupid". And everyone is left going huh? Except for conservatives but they are just grasping at straws because they really have no talent for comedy.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)Thanks for participating in the thread, though.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Like I said though, this is just plain weird. It's not satire, imho ... just another lame smear at Sanders. And if it's not Sanders himself being smeared with these strange posts, it's his supporters. Strange, trying to pass it off as even satire.[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,319 posts)The blog is based in ST. Paul and has an oddly familiar boring style and weak attempts at satire.
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/1172181959
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251896157
polly7
(20,582 posts)Well I guess if one has the time and agenda all sorts of things can be done to entertain oneself. But the next day it's a thread filled with finger-wagging preachy shit to get together and be kinder and nicer political people. A bit of a disconnect there ........ or purposeful. Who knows?
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,319 posts)Ha ha? I guess? Bernie got an endorsement and rejected it? There is no there there.
Check out the one I just posted down thread. Ha ha Bernie will build a cabin because he is from Vermont. I guess you could say it's so bad it's good
polly7
(20,582 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,659 posts)and the folks who came up with this lame satire shouldn't quit their day jobs.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)After all, they're "America's Finest News Source." It says so right on their home page. Who can doubt that?
As for day jobs, I have it on good authority that the authors represented on NYSB are all independently wealthy and have no need for what you call "day jobs." They're all truly 1%ers, to be sure.
For example, Millie Neal, the author of this particular article, dropped by yesterday on her way to her private jet. She'll be reporting from Paris next week, I understand, on news of global import. She's a delightful 20-something young lady, with a quick wit and inside knowledge of the showbiz and fashion industry. She's really gucci, in fact.
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Hassin Bin Sober
(26,319 posts)OMG, my sides are aching! Bernie is going to build a cabin on the White House lawn!!!
LOL. He's from Vermont!!!
Get it? He's from Vermont and he will build a cabin. OMG I can't breathe.
Bernie Sanders Announces Plan for Vermont Cabin on White House Grounds
As President, Sanders Will Live in Cabin - Turn WH into Homeless Shelter
http://newsyoushouldntbelieve.blogspot.com/2015/11/bernie-sanders-announces-plan-for.html
Exclusive to NYSB by Anoo Ryder
In a surprising turn in the Democratic Primary race, Bernie Sanders, who has been flagging in the polls lately, made an announcement that he will forgo living in the luxurious White House quarters provided for Presidents if he is elected.
"I'm building a classic Vermont cabin on The Ellipse to be used as my quarters during the time I am in office. It will be a temporary installation that can be removed at the end of my second term," Sanders told this reporter in a private interview. "I just wouldn't be comfortable in that big old rambling place, frankly. It's just not my style."
When asked what the White House's function would be during his Presidency, he said, "Well, it would make an nice roomy homeless shelter, I think. Maybe we'll do that."
Is this a bid to cast himself as a simple man of the people, as one supporter close to the #feeltheBern organization claimed, or some sort of publicity stunt? The campaign is getting curiouser and curiouser.
When asked what this "Vermont Cabin" will look like, candidate Sanders handed this reporter a photo:
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,659 posts)to completely comatose. Successful satire requires a fine hand, not a sledgehammer, which is why hardly anybody is really good at it.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,319 posts).... mean spirited.
I figured out whose blog this is. I guess I should have known (or read up thread lol).
Mallard Fillmore:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallard_Fillmore
polly7
(20,582 posts)where I posted about that exact cabin! http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=875678
Couldn't find anything to laugh about in that one either, it was just plain mean.
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)On Fri Jan 8, 2016, 12:59 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
Breaking: Justin Bieber Endorses Sanders
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251984042
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
This article is materially misleading. It is heavily camoflaged satire, and from the responses, it is perceived as truth by some. For DU readers who only read the OP and not all the comments, it is plausible sounding The OP's link has similarly misleading articles about Hillary. So I'm testing here to see if such heavily disguised and misleading "satire" is acceptable. If so, I'll post similar articles from the same source about Hillary, and include a footnote that Hillary supporters find the source acceptable. What I particularly object to is the bald-faced lie that Sanders saw a sharp drop in polls in both New Hampshire and Iowa. (I've been a DU member since 2002, and can count on one hand the times I've alerted.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Jan 8, 2016, 01:05 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: satire, yes?
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If you've been here since DU member since 2002 you should know Mineral Man penned that satire piece. Get a grip, dude, this is Poe's law at work.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's stupid, but that doesn't make it hideable.
Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)"Heavily camouflaged." From the URL of the site to the ridiculous names of the authors and the About text at the top of the page, the satirical nature of the site is clear. More clear than it might be, in fact, so there is no way to confuse it for a news site. That alert is funnier than the satire, IMO.
Autumn
(45,026 posts)Why do I think that? All the OPs on that "satire", and I use the term "satire" loosely, blog is a slam against Bernie or Bernie supporters. I bet that hack supported Bernie until Bernie's supporters hurt his fee fees and he had to support Hillary.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,319 posts)Not funny but a little mean spirited and petty.
Conservative Mallard Fillmore:
Even the Trump piece is pretty lame. If you are satirist that can't lampoon Trump, you should pack it in and stick to writing web pages for local handymen and dog poop services.
http://newsyoushouldntbelieve.blogspot.com/2015/12/donald-trump-disputes-hitler-comparison.html
Donald Trump Disputes Hitler Comparison
Trump Fights Back against Characterization as Nazi
by
Falls Flagg
Recent photographs of GOP candidate, Donald Trump, with his arm outstretched while talking about excluding Muslims from entering the United States, have generated a number of comparisons between Trump and hated German WWII Fuhrer Adolf Hitler.
In response to those drawing the comparison, Trump spoke today, saying, "I'm nothing like Adolf Hitler. He was a petty tyrant who hated Jews. I'm a very, very rich man who has nothing against the Jewish religion at all. I hate it when people compare me with Hitler. I prefer to think of myself more like the benevolent Italian leader, Benito Mussolini. Like me, he was a self-made man. Everyone knows that I love Italy and Italians."
He continued, "As President of the United States, I will keep Muslims out of America, not Jews. I'm nothing like Hitler. If people keep comparing me to him, I will file lawsuits against media companies that do that. I'm very good at winning lawsuits, you know. Why do you think I'm worth billions?"
Autumn
(45,026 posts)Autumn
(45,026 posts)Now seriously you all know how appreciative Manny is of good satire
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)Jen Granholm endorsed Obama 8 years ago.
Cruz is Canadian and he's running for president.