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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 07:40 PM Jan 2016

Breaking New Hampshire Poll - Sanders 50%, Clinton 37%, O'Malley 3%

Link to today's Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) live cell and landline telephone poll of 800 likely New Hampshire primary voters sponsored by Fox.

Even more revealing poll question: How would you feel if Clinton/Sanders wins the Democratic presidential nomination?

Very satisfied:

51% - Sanders
37% - Clinton

Somewhat satisfied:

34% - Sanders
31% - Clinton

Not at All satisfied:

8% - Sanders
17% - Clinton

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Breaking New Hampshire Poll - Sanders 50%, Clinton 37%, O'Malley 3% (Original Post) Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 OP
Bernie's going to win! tecelote Jan 2016 #1
FOX News Poll? ROFLMAO! leftofcool Jan 2016 #2
Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) does the polling Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #4
Never heard of them Renew Deal Jan 2016 #14
OOpps wrong results? pangaia Jan 2016 #19
Have you heard of them? Renew Deal Jan 2016 #22
Wrong question. okasha Jan 2016 #31
Oh please! CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #6
And you Sanders supporters told us not to trust the poll if the sponsor was "biased" brooklynite Jan 2016 #26
That's when Brock literally paid for that result and PPP felt it necessary to disclose that. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #29
I don't believe that...but if I did I would respond: "and Fox isn't paying for a result"? brooklynite Jan 2016 #33
And I would respond by pointing out that the GOP/FOX doesn't want Trump, and yet his poll #'s..... JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #35
Probably means nothing. NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #7
You are feeling sleepy now, rest, rest... artislife Jan 2016 #48
And it's not scientific mindwalker_i Jan 2016 #9
Agreed! They accidentally asked likely voters in New Hampshire; that's dangerously close to relevant Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #13
Trust no New Hampshire polling... AngryParakeet Jan 2016 #3
You'd almost think someone had commissioned a lot of sketchily-done polls to muddy the waters. n/t winter is coming Jan 2016 #8
NH is very tricky because of independent voting Renew Deal Jan 2016 #15
In defense of New Hampshire Tab Jan 2016 #17
Thanks for that insight. yellerpup Jan 2016 #18
Hey! nt grasswire Jan 2016 #56
Hey, grasswire! yellerpup Jan 2016 #57
absolutely grasswire Jan 2016 #58
OK, if it makes you feel better. CT, extraordinaire. libdem4life Jan 2016 #5
So, looking at the numbers in the link, winter is coming Jan 2016 #10
Hillary's campaign would be 2014 redux: a disaster waiting to be denied. eom Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #42
He's got this! in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #11
Fox poll? workinclasszero Jan 2016 #12
I live in New Hampshire Tab Jan 2016 #16
As a Clinton supporter I won't "unskew" this poll ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2016 #20
Sanders would take Vermont and its neighbor state New Hampshire AlbertCat Jan 2016 #21
Republicans aren't voting in New Hampshire... ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2016 #24
Proud Member of the Reality Based Community AlbertCat Jan 2016 #39
Let me see if I can explain this to you at your reading level ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2016 #44
You still haven't read my post, I see AlbertCat Jan 2016 #46
I did. The word "anecdotal" makes your point even weaker ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2016 #47
And being "reality based" when you're living on a tight, thin bubble Stoolbend Jan 2016 #49
Fox News / republicans want Sanders to win, he's easier to beat in the General Election. George II Jan 2016 #23
True, but beside the point ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2016 #25
They say its a "scientifically run poll", but Fox also says they're "fair and balanced" and "news"! George II Jan 2016 #30
Separate out the people paying for the poll from the pollster ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2016 #37
I have to say it is fun reading h supporters artislife Jan 2016 #50
Why are you responding to me? ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2016 #59
DU'ers aren't wrong after all ....That poll that Hillary fans were laughing at... vkkv Jan 2016 #27
It shows the enthusiasm gap. Go Bernie. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #28
It shows who Fox is rooting for millbrooky Jan 2016 #34
Possibly. But not in this case. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #36
LOL! Anderson Robbins Research (D) / Shaw & Company Research (R) leans Democratic but take whatever Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #43
You leaving "Fox" out of the title was a masterful move millbrooky Jan 2016 #32
fivethirtyeight.com rates them as a B. Not the best, but far from the worst. winter is coming Jan 2016 #38
Never trust Faux Newz on anything.. DCBob Jan 2016 #40
+ 1 JoePhilly Jan 2016 #51
Sad that you have to say this here, but evidently you do. I wonder who FOX wants randys1 Jan 2016 #52
Great news. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #41
The polling in New Hampshire and Iowa is definitely trending the right direction Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #45
NOT breaking. This is the same Fox poll Sanders fans have been posting for the past week.!!!!! riversedge Jan 2016 #53
Kickin' with gusto! Faux pas Jan 2016 #54
Poll Flame Bait...and I intend to add this to Every Poll that Comes Out. I'm sick libdem4life Jan 2016 #55

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
4. Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) does the polling
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 07:44 PM
Jan 2016

Fox sponsors the poll.

You get how polling works, right?

okasha

(11,573 posts)
31. Wrong question.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 10:37 PM
Jan 2016

The important one is "Who will you vote for?"

Still whacking away at a very deceased equine. It's a variation on the favorability theme that seems to make tingles down some people's back.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
6. Oh please!
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 07:51 PM
Jan 2016

You Hillary supporters touted the Monmoth and Loras polls as if they were flipping crystal balls foretelling the future.

Monmoth excluded ALL Iowa first-time caucus participants, EVERYONE under the age of 26, and ALL independents.

When I explained the faulty poll methodology, I was mocked.

When the Monmoth disaster and the similarly faulty Loras poll was released you people declared, "So sad. He's just too far behind" and many chided Sanders supporters and told them to, "accept reality."

Now, you find a problem with a pollster?

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
29. That's when Brock literally paid for that result and PPP felt it necessary to disclose that.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 10:35 PM
Jan 2016

The difference is striking.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
7. Probably means nothing.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 07:59 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary will undoubtedly still win...so relax and go back to sleep. It's just Faux News right? Nothing to worry about. Hillary is holding steady at a bazillion percent to Bernies Way, Way less-than-that%.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
13. Agreed! They accidentally asked likely voters in New Hampshire; that's dangerously close to relevant
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jan 2016

information.

I wish someone would quickly post an internet based of all adults without focusing on any early primary or caucus state so we can get back to the Crown Her Now! Parade.

Renew Deal

(81,846 posts)
15. NH is very tricky because of independent voting
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 08:26 PM
Jan 2016

They will usually vote in the more interesting race. And sometimes that's a last minute decision.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
17. In defense of New Hampshire
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 08:48 PM
Jan 2016

(where I live)
It's a good test ground for newbie candidates. You can drive from the bottom to the top in 4 or 6 hours. You're isolated enough from the Boston market that you can run test ads without diluting the audience. You can book venues for practically nothing. Word gets around, as opposed to, say, Los Angeles. In fact, if you live in LA or SFO you can just kiss goodbye any opportunity to see a candidate. NH is small enough that if you want to hit up a "town hall" or something, you can. I've met and/or seen a number of candidates. Yes, it's kind of monochromatic, but it's a decent indicator.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
10. So, looking at the numbers in the link,
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 08:12 PM
Jan 2016

HRC's "not very satisfied/not at all satisfied number" is 30%, while Bernie's is 13%, and her "very satisfied/somewhat satisfied" number is only 68%, while Bernie's is 85%. Which tallies with what people have been saying all along about Hillary having a problem with enthusiastic support.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
20. As a Clinton supporter I won't "unskew" this poll
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 09:30 PM
Jan 2016

I have always expected that Sanders would take Vermont and its neighbor state New Hampshire as a favorite son.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
21. Sanders would take Vermont and its neighbor state New Hampshire
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 09:42 PM
Jan 2016

It's been my experience (so anecdotal) the NH is a bit more conservative and, except in climate, not very like VT.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
24. Republicans aren't voting in New Hampshire...
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 10:20 PM
Jan 2016

And there is no particular sign that Vermont is as liberal as Bernie is. They just voted down Single Payer there, which is what the good senator is campaigning on nationally.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
39. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 09:18 AM
Jan 2016

Fascinating!

But what does your post have to do with my post?

A. C. proud member of the reading comprehension community

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
44. Let me see if I can explain this to you at your reading level
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 03:18 PM
Jan 2016

Saying "New Hampshire is more conservative than Vermont", is not the same thing as saying "New Hampshire Democrats are more conservative than Vermont Democrats". It doesn't really matter that there are a bunch of New Hampshire Republicans who love the Union Leader; they've got their own primary to make decisions in.

With me so far?

Okay, so as a measure of "how liberal are Democrats compared to Sanders" is a big deal, because the complaint from Sanderistas is that Hillary isn't liberal enough (or not liberal, or republican, or nazi, or whatever the hell bullshit they've decided to make up). So to address the question, "Are New Hampshire Democrats liking Senator Sanders because he's a local candidate, or is this the indication of some vast left-wing ground swell", one needs to compare his positions vs his own state. And guess what? In his own home State, Vermont failed to pass Single Payer, even though all levers of government are owned by the Democrats. Senator Sanders' own position can't get through his own home state, much less the country.

The conclusion is therefore obvious. Sanders is a guy on the local news a lot. Democratic voters in the region like him as a person, because he's a local, and probably very nice. His positions? Not so much. Which means that in other states where he doesn't have this natural "favorite son" advantage, he's going to sink.

I hope this explains it to you. My apologies for going too fast initially.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community


ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
47. I did. The word "anecdotal" makes your point even weaker
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jan 2016

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

 

Stoolbend

(23 posts)
49. And being "reality based" when you're living on a tight, thin bubble
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 02:40 PM
Jan 2016

that's about to burst. Them's the facts, Jack.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
25. True, but beside the point
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 10:22 PM
Jan 2016

A scientifically run poll is a scientifically run poll. I see no reason why the pollsters would want to tarnish their reputation by deliberately skewing it one way or the other.

Reality based means reality based - even if it isn't what you'd like to see happen.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
37. Separate out the people paying for the poll from the pollster
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 12:24 AM
Jan 2016

Pollsters have a reputation to uphold, and that is to be accurate.
If they skewed the numbers, they'd get no more contracts to do more polls - from anybody.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
59. Why are you responding to me?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:53 PM
Jan 2016

I'm not discounting anything.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
27. DU'ers aren't wrong after all ....That poll that Hillary fans were laughing at...
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 10:30 PM
Jan 2016

Who would pick the BEST Supreme Court Justices? Bernie Or Hill ?

Come on now, be honest!
154 votes, 3 passes | Time left: Unlimited

Bernie Sanders would nominate the best Supreme Court Justices: 135 (88%)

Hillary Clinton would nominate the best Supreme Court Justices: 15 (10%)

Martin O' Malley would nominate the best Supreme Court Justices: 4 (3%)

The Republican Congress , er, kindergartners, would nominate the best Supreme Court Justices, by accident, in between votes to repeal ObamaCare: 0 (0%)

3 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251974642

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
43. LOL! Anderson Robbins Research (D) / Shaw & Company Research (R) leans Democratic but take whatever
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jan 2016

comfort you can from dismissing data because of who reports the data. I'm sure the facts on the ground will go away if you ignore them hard enough.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/new-fox-poll-tilts-democratic/article/567585

 

millbrooky

(23 posts)
32. You leaving "Fox" out of the title was a masterful move
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 11:06 PM
Jan 2016

Nice spin. This is also the only pollster to date finding Trump ahead of Clinton nationally. Go figure.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
38. fivethirtyeight.com rates them as a B. Not the best, but far from the worst.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 12:29 AM
Jan 2016

Two other pollsters often quoted here are Quinnipiac (B+) and PPP (B minus):

http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/pollster-ratings/

randys1

(16,286 posts)
52. Sad that you have to say this here, but evidently you do. I wonder who FOX wants
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 02:45 PM
Jan 2016

to see running on the Dem ticket?

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
41. Great news.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 11:41 AM
Jan 2016

I never believed those polls that said Clinton was moving up again in NH, or even overtaking Sanders. This poll is far more consistent with the trend line that began in July 2015.

riversedge

(70,084 posts)
53. NOT breaking. This is the same Fox poll Sanders fans have been posting for the past week.!!!!!
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 02:46 PM
Jan 2016

FROM the OP

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2016/01/08/fox-news-poll-new-hampshire-gop-presidential-primary-race/

Anderson Robbins Research (D) / Shaw & Company Research (R) Interviews Conducted:
January 4-7, 2016

All results are for release after 6:00PM/ET Friday, January 8, 2016.

NEW HAMPSHIRE

The Fox News Poll is conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R).


 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
55. Poll Flame Bait...and I intend to add this to Every Poll that Comes Out. I'm sick
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jan 2016

of this contention. None of them are right...is my assumption.

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