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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 03:16 AM Jan 2016

about PP and HRC

OK, was PP throwing support to HRC before the primaries STUPID? Of course, because if nothing else, it lets the GOP associate PP with HRC, instead of simple damned medical science. Abortion should be no more political than a root canal, and this endorsement before the primary is settled makes PP look like a political arm of HRC. They could not wait, or keep things going by saying "the democrats support us" which would have been a safe and true statement?

It also makes Hillary look weak because it looks like yet another heavy handed approach to make sure the primary is nothing more than a coronation process, which will play right into the hands of whoever the GOP appoints.

Now, with all this being said, when I read people saying they will cancel PP donations, I have to ask, are you foolish? We do not have the right to treat the health of women as collateral damage; that is supposedly what makes us better than our enemies. Perhaps if PP gets funding, then they will not feel so desperate as to think that they have to let DWS co opt them.

If you are liberal, you will support PP, period. Full stop. The lives of women are not pawns, even if DWS, despite being a woman, choose to make them so.

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Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
1. Sorry.....
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 03:23 AM
Jan 2016

It doesn't make Hillary look weak, it makes her look corrupt:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251986325

And PP was colossally stupid. With regard to PP, I will eventually get over it, but I am VERY pissed right now.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
5. so they show their corruption and make a quid pro quo without asking anyone about
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 05:14 AM
Jan 2016

it and everyone who is PISSED is somehow the bad guy. Were we the bad guy with Komen when they showed their corruption too? Put the blame squarely where it belongs, on the idiot in charge of PP. They are the ones to blame, the ass hat 1% who make their entitlement moves so removed from those who support them that they never see it coming. No is to blame about this but them. Period.

murielm99

(30,735 posts)
4. I don't think that PP will lose that much money in donations.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 04:59 AM
Jan 2016

Most of the people saying that are probably not donors to begin with. They are just mouthing off.

Throwing in a gratuitous swipe at DWS makes your post look foolish.

There are more HRC supporters than Bernie supporters. If all the HRC supporters who give continue to do so, PP will not have a problem.

This is just another example of Bernie supporters throwing everyone under the bus who chooses to support the front runner for the nomination.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
11. "Throwing in a gratuitous swipe at DWS makes your post look foolish."
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 02:52 PM
Jan 2016

DWS swipes make her look foolish, and she may crash Hillary yet again, with far worse consequences for Hillary than 2008.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
7. PP turned their patients into political pawns, not Bernie's supporters.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 10:17 AM
Jan 2016

It was a stupid move that had zero possibility of helping their organization. Their political involvement should have remained party wide, not politician focused.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
9. So...women's issues can't be used as collateral damage...
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 10:23 AM
Jan 2016

...but HRC supporters can use them as some kind of weird strong arm tactic and purity test? Got it.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
10. Completely disagree it shouldn't be political.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 10:27 AM
Jan 2016

When a lawmaker discusses legislation that requires I be sexually assaulted before having a medical procedure performed, I want the best and most fearless lobbyists and individuals fighting for me in the political sphere.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
12. then why make PP political
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 02:53 PM
Jan 2016

or, if you have to, why not actually wait until there is a clear, official democratic candidate?

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
13. As long as PP doesn't stand with all Democrats in the primaries, some Democrats will not
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jan 2016

stand with PP. How stupid does the elite have to be for them not to see this coming?

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
14. it's not that they do not see it coming
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 03:03 PM
Jan 2016

it is just they do nto care, because they think they can run over everyone.

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