2016 Postmortem
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A new survey shows a sizable number of Democrats ready to defect from Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump.U.S. News and World Report - James Warren - Jan. 8, 2016
When the firmed showed respondents the Trump ad, and assessed their responses to each moment of it, it found "the primary messages of Trump's ad resonated more than Democratic elites would hope."
About 25 percent of Democrats "agree completely" that it raises some good point, with an additional 19 percent agreeing at least "somewhat."
Let's get real ... Sen. Sanders has a much better chance of getting these Democrats back with his economic message.
Hillary Clinton is exactly the kind of elitist insider politician that could hand the presidency to Trump.
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)With Sanders they stay and R's cross over, with her they leave and no R's crossover..Pretty obvious
tecelote
(5,122 posts)Your was right on though.
LOL Great minds think alike...
artislife
(9,497 posts)And I am just talking about the party!!
LOLZ
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)That made me laugh out loud when I was watching that the first time.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)K and R! It will become more obvious over the next couple weeks ... 2 B Sure!
emulatorloo
(44,118 posts)I question how they selected this 'focus group'. Smells pretty fishy to me.
840high
(17,196 posts)tired of the same old establishment.
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)About dems crossing but Indies might
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)It won;t make any difference she will not be the candidate regardless of her "inevitability", she will be sidelined same as 08... I shudder to think of what would happen if she is the nominee, she cannot beat any decent candidate, doubt she can beat trump either and that is really frightening.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)A bunch of socialist ideologues will become disillusioned and cross over to a professed fascist?
stone space
(6,498 posts)But the phenomena of white voters voting against their self-interests is not a new one.
"Socialist ideologues" are not a major voting block in this country.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)...then we most certainly are talking about Sanders supporters. Sanders being a loud and proud Democrcatic Socialist, my comment is hardly a stretch.
I will agree quite strongly that "socialist ideologues" is not a huge group. Is your thought that Sanders's attractiveness to his supporters is something different than his socialist message? And these same voters will find Trump a logical alternative?
I'm not seeing it.
stone space
(6,498 posts)Hopefully, they are both wrong.
A socialist message can appeal to many folks who are not socialist ideologues.
If logic were applicable to politics, then none of those folks would vote against their self-interest.
I can't see it either (I am a mathematical logician by profession, so there's probably a joke in here somewhere as to why not), but the fact that folks often vote against their self interest again and again is a recurring problem.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Yes, There is a significant cohort of people from all points on the political spectrum who will make a point of ACTIVELY voting AGAINST HILLARY. Just the cold hard facts.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Welcome to DU
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Any dem that would vote for Trump voted for Romney, McCain, and probably Bush.
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)Example Kentucky
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Trumps 20% of Dems are in states that vote GOP at the top of the ticket.
artislife
(9,497 posts)OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Old Codger
(4,205 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)The Republicans just now equaled Democrats in registration.
A survey would need to ask who those Democrats voted for in the last few elections to be worth spit.
kimbutgar
(21,137 posts)Is that the cause of their earthquakes is the fracking. And the people still vote republican even as they are being lied to. I am dismayed and shocked at the stupity of the American people who are so stupid they can't see the facts in front of them.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)There has been no general election campaign. We don't know just what Democrats they are talking about, in what states, etc. We don't know just what their questions were, what their polling model was, etc.
This is all BULLSHIT right now. Polls like this mean NOTHING.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)other countries to succumb to fascism. I don't at this point
argue for any democrat, I am just very worried.
The country is very angry and people feel insecure.
That is when the voters can be motivated to hate as
well as fear. The media at this point support Trump
and Cruz by giving them an unbelievable exposure.
Remember, from Bill Clinton's election that it takes
only a majority, not 51% to win.
Thus 38% of the votes could be a winner.
Yes, I take this very, very seriously.
dinkytron
(568 posts)the black vote and I don't think he is "insider' enough to fix an election. How can he win? I just don't see him competing nationally and I don't see his pit bull campaign style being sustainable for another year.