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FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 11:30 AM Jan 2016

Fact Checker: Just how effective was Bernie Sanders with a Republican Congress?

Fact Checker: Just how effective was Bernie Sanders with a Republican Congress?


“Bernie Sanders passed more amendments in a Republican Congress than any other member.”

Source of claim: “Effective,” an ad paid for by Bernie 2016 Campaign Committee in support of Democratic presidential candidate and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

The research identifies the top 10 senators for 1995-2005. Sanders ranked No. 1 at sponsoring successful amendments, edging out Rep. James Traficant, D-Ohio, with 16; Rep. Christopher Smith, R-NJ, with 14; and Benjamin Gilman, R-NY, with 13, according to the data.

The Fact Checker independently researched the votes using a congressional database.

http://www.thegazette.com/subject/news/politics/election/iowa-caucus/fact-checker-just-how-effective-was-bernie-sanders-with-a-republican-congress-20160108
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Fact Checker: Just how effective was Bernie Sanders with a Republican Congress? (Original Post) FreakinDJ Jan 2016 OP
How many bills or amendments that Hillary wrote became law merrily Jan 2016 #1
The OP is about Bernie and rated only a 'D' riversedge Jan 2016 #2
I guess in that respect HRC would score an F FreakinDJ Jan 2016 #3
I know what the Op is about. It is not about Bernie's wardrobe. merrily Jan 2016 #5
DAMN you ARE good. REALLY REALLY good. !! pangaia Jan 2016 #7
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you. merrily Jan 2016 #8
I always look forward to your comments and posts, merrily! Duval Jan 2016 #10
Why, thank you. I had no idea. merrily Jan 2016 #12
Not sure we wanna go there PatrynXX Jan 2016 #14
I could just as easily have said "Bernie's lawn mower, but nooooo. I had to pick merrily Jan 2016 #17
Why like comparisons, it is primary season artislife Jan 2016 #15
This many. Sunlei Jan 2016 #21
How many of those are substantive (not like re-naming a post office or remembering the merrily Jan 2016 #22
kind of a chickenshit fact check dsc Jan 2016 #4
you can check here about both Mrs. Clinton and Sanders. Sunlei Jan 2016 #6
She initiated and passed 3 bills of no consequence. Check it. nt artislife Jan 2016 #16
What you find online is mostly about bills co-sponsored, which doesn't take much. merrily Jan 2016 #18
No their entire record is there for example- Sunlei Jan 2016 #20
She did NOT write hundreds of bills and amendment that became law. More like 3 or 4, ceremonial. merrily Jan 2016 #23
Forgot this part........ Historic NY Jan 2016 #9
Yeah, what's up? tecelote Jan 2016 #19
Traficant Historic NY Jan 2016 #24
K&R! Duval Jan 2016 #11
That's a very irrelevant and extremely simpleton Gman Jan 2016 #13
Thank you. Indeed. libdem4life Jan 2016 #25

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. How many bills or amendments that Hillary wrote became law
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 11:33 AM
Jan 2016

that were not "ceremonial," like re-naming a post office or observing the anniversary of the American Revolution?

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
14. Not sure we wanna go there
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jan 2016
although my brother is High Maintenance , shave put on the perfume spend an hour in the shower etc. pretty much kills any stereotype one has about females and being in the bathroom/shower for an hour. I'll just move over here..

merrily

(45,251 posts)
17. I could just as easily have said "Bernie's lawn mower, but nooooo. I had to pick
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:34 PM
Jan 2016

something controversial.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
15. Why like comparisons, it is primary season
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:10 PM
Jan 2016

We can think about more than one subject at a time.

And we do, it is obvious, because we support the best candidate out there--Bernie Sanders.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
21. This many.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 04:24 PM
Jan 2016

Bill Type check all


Bills (H.R. or S.) 2,343


Amendments (H.Amdt. or S.Amdt.) 1,043


Resolutions (H.Res. or S.Res.) 732


Concurrent Resolutions (H.Con.Res. or S.Con.Res.) 279


Joint Resolutions (H.J.Res. or S.J.Res.) 57

merrily

(45,251 posts)
22. How many of those are substantive (not like re-naming a post office or remembering the
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jan 2016

anniversary of the Revolution)?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
6. you can check here about both Mrs. Clinton and Sanders.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jan 2016

Here's Congress you'll have to search around yourself and find the Senate votes/sponsorships and the SOS records. And the old records from when Mrs. Clinton was a Senator of New York.

https://www.congress.gov/

merrily

(45,251 posts)
23. She did NOT write hundreds of bills and amendment that became law. More like 3 or 4, ceremonial.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 04:33 PM
Jan 2016

Reply 16 is correct.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
9. Forgot this part........
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:07 PM
Jan 2016

Voice votes and roll call votes serve different purposes, but the Sanders ad didn’t make clear his reference was to a subset of amendments when claiming he “passed more amendments in a Republican Congress than any other member.”

In our review, which was not exhaustive, we found at least one Democratic colleague — Rep. Traficant — who in fewer terms passed far more amendments.

It’s true the Vermont senator is more prolific than many lawmakers at sponsoring successful amendments, particularly more consequential ones requiring roll-call votes, but taken at face value the claim is off the mark.

Fact Checker scores this claim a D.



Ben Gilman was my Congressman he was was in office until he hit age 79 when the Republicans redistricted him. He's still alive at 94 and live at the local VA hospital.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
19. Yeah, what's up?
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:40 PM
Jan 2016

"In our review, which was not exhaustive, we found at least one Democratic colleague — Rep. Traficant — who in fewer terms passed far more amendments. "

So, there is maybe one, depending on how you look at it. That deserves a D becuase Bernie might be #2?

Let's call it an A-.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
13. That's a very irrelevant and extremely simpleton
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:44 PM
Jan 2016

Way to describe the president's interaction with Congress.

It means nothing

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