2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThere is one very interesting thing in the NBC Iowa poll, for both candidates
And it is this:
Clinton led 52-40 with respondents who were verified as being registered Democrats (Names are on registration lists).
Sanders led 51-42 with respondents who are not verified as being on the registered list.
Among voters who participated before, she leads 51-42.
Among never caucused before Sanders leads 51-41.
The implication is very clear--Sanders has the majority support of the never voted in a Democratic primary before crowd (Shocking, I know that independents and youth like him), but is in real trouble if they don't actually show up.
But the most interesting part is that NBC weighed the never voted as almost an equal likelihood to the has voted in the likely voter screen; the first time I have seen a pollster do that.
So they've set up the population parameter for the poll to show that Bernie had energized his supporters enough to end the pattern of non voters being very unreliable showing up.
It is actually an interesting gamble for NBC; they're saying the fundamentals of the race are different than in other cycles. Either they're right in that regard, and one of the earliest to call it, or they're about to be very wrong (As in, their basic topline assumption for collecting poll data is invalid.).
I have to give them credit, though. It turns out this is not a safe prediction, as I had cynically thought, they're actually putting it all on the line. Good for them for not playing it safe by moving with the herd.
emulatorloo
(44,072 posts)I admit that I am too damn lazy to dig through GD-P to find it myself.
http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/IApolls/IA160102/Complete%20January%202016%20Iowa_New%20Hampshire_NBC%20News_Marist%20Poll%20Release.pdf
Methodology & Tables
NH:
http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/IApolls/IA160102/NBC%20News_WSJ_Marist%20Poll_New%20Hampshire%20Likely%20Democratic%20Primary%20Voters_Nature%20of%20the%20Sample%20and%20Tables_January%202016.pdf#page=1
Iowa:
http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/IApolls/IA160102/NBC%20News_WSJ_Marist%20Poll_Iowa%20Likely%20Republican%20Caucus%20Goers_Nature%20of%20the%20Sample%20and%20Tables_January%202016.pdf#page=1
emulatorloo
(44,072 posts)jkbRN
(850 posts)Correct me if I'm wrong.
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)Will fix, as it would include independents, to your point.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Godhumor
(6,437 posts)54-39
Progressive dog
(6,899 posts)This is from PPP on January 6
mocratic side, with Hillary Clinton at
47% to 44% for Bernie Sanders, and
3% for Martin O'Malley. There's an
incredible divide between the Democrats
and independents planning to vote in
the primary- Clinton leads Sanders 55/36 with Democrats, but Sanders almost
completely cancels that out with a 59/29 advantage among non-Democrats
planning to vote in the primary.
elleng
(130,761 posts)NEVERMIND that Martin O'Malley Rails Against Deportations At Families First Presidential Forum.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251991105
Nothing like 'national' media, I guess.
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)Just wants the focus of my post.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Alfresco
(1,698 posts)Go Team Hillary!
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)But it ain't a race without a photo finish and NBC is sponsoring next week's debate . . .
Not that it matters of course . . .