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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 04:54 PM Jan 2016

This has been an awesome week of Clinton endorsements. I am proud to stand with all of them.

Anthony Foxx-Secretary of Transportation





Gabby Giffords- American hero





Congressional Black Caucus Chair-G.K. Butterfield




Congressperson Frank Pallone





Seafarers International Union





Planned Parenthood










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This has been an awesome week of Clinton endorsements. I am proud to stand with all of them. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 OP
K & R SunSeeker Jan 2016 #1
Yes indeed, a very good week. Nice post DSB. Alfresco Jan 2016 #2
Me too. K&R! MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #3
How long before she gets the endorsement from the guy in your last graphic? George II Jan 2016 #4
He'll probably stay out of the primary discussion. JoePhilly Jan 2016 #5
I know, but I just can't wait for him to wade into this, probably sometime in April or May George II Jan 2016 #16
I just read the pollster used by the WH is Hillary's chief strategist. Rose Siding Jan 2016 #33
Obama has said he won't make a primary endorsement NastyRiffraff Jan 2016 #44
Frank Pallone? Uponthegears Jan 2016 #6
Oh, and Uponthegears Jan 2016 #10
So? You guys should really read up on how opensecrets presents their data. George II Jan 2016 #18
Are you related Uponthegears Jan 2016 #38
I don't even know who or what that is. George II Jan 2016 #42
The PP endorsement was terrible for the organization itself. liberalnarb Jan 2016 #7
Terrible only for a few. People all over the country hailed the endorsement. George II Jan 2016 #35
K & R Iliyah Jan 2016 #8
T Minus 23 days SmittynMo Jan 2016 #9
Does sparsely populated, heavily rural, and homogeneous Iowa speak for the entire United States? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #17
Nope, but it's the first state to cast ballots (in the form of a caucus) and has been as far as... Ned_Devine Jan 2016 #22
Nope. Just watch as the goalposts get moved. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #28
Yeah, it's fun to watch Ned_Devine Jan 2016 #31
There will be 4400+ delegates at the Convention, less than 70 will be there from IA and NH. George II Jan 2016 #37
KnR Hekate Jan 2016 #11
The Planned Parenthood endorsement was one of the best. Laser102 Jan 2016 #12
Each one was impressive. Together, they are spectacular. nt Bleacher Creature Jan 2016 #13
k&r Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #14
Agree msrizzo Jan 2016 #15
Yawn billhicks76 Jan 2016 #19
This has been an awesome week of Clinton endorsements. I am proud to stand with all of them. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #20
Don't Forget Rupert Murdoch In 2006 billhicks76 Jan 2016 #23
I couldn't be prouder of standing with Hillary Clinton. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #24
I Couldn't Be Prouder Having My Kids Stand Against Her billhicks76 Jan 2016 #36
If you believe the Bush's and the Clinton's have the same plans for America... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #40
I Said RARE! billhicks76 Jan 2016 #50
And? George II Jan 2016 #41
Wow billhicks76 Jan 2016 #52
they love her many pals like that, and stand by them too t stupidicus Jan 2016 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2016 #21
I'm proud to stand with YOU BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #25
Thank you. That's an honor, sir. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #27
LOL, I'd prefer BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #30
Mea culpa. I shouldn't guess or assume./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #32
Hear hear!!! philosslayer Jan 2016 #26
Awesome indeed! Nice post. K & R nt Persondem Jan 2016 #29
K&R! stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #34
Leaders recognize what it takes to lead. oasis Jan 2016 #39
That last graphic.... Plucketeer Jan 2016 #43
Again, Obama has said NastyRiffraff Jan 2016 #46
Obama's there, to more or less SmittynMo Jan 2016 #48
What an Awesome OP, DSB.. thank you! Gabby has come so far.. Gabby and Mark! Cha Jan 2016 #47
You use the phrase "I stand with" a lot. delrem Jan 2016 #49
All I will say... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #51
"axiomatic" eh? delrem Jan 2016 #53

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
5. He'll probably stay out of the primary discussion.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 06:06 PM
Jan 2016

Imagine he endorse the person who loses the primary.

The media would hound him, and the nominee, 24/7 until the election.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
44. Obama has said he won't make a primary endorsement
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 07:45 PM
Jan 2016

I believe most presidents take this road. Makes sense, really.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
7. The PP endorsement was terrible for the organization itself.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 06:11 PM
Jan 2016

It would have been just as bad if the organization had endorsed Bernie or Martin. All the Democrats had stood by Planned Parenthood throughout. Bernie, Martin, Hillary were all there for them. They pissed off supporters of the other two by endorsing Clinton. They bit the hand that feeds them.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
17. Does sparsely populated, heavily rural, and homogeneous Iowa speak for the entire United States?
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 06:32 PM
Jan 2016

Thank you in advance.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
22. Nope, but it's the first state to cast ballots (in the form of a caucus) and has been as far as...
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 06:49 PM
Jan 2016

...I can remember. Does it not count or something?

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
28. Nope. Just watch as the goalposts get moved.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jan 2016

Before Bernie started to get competitive in Iowa, it was presented as a sign that he has no broad appeal because he only did well in NH. Expect the goalposts to keep getting moved.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
31. Yeah, it's fun to watch
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 07:10 PM
Jan 2016

I'm just pretty much putting all of them on my ignore list so that coming here can be enjoyable for me.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
20. This has been an awesome week of Clinton endorsements. I am proud to stand with all of them.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 06:39 PM
Jan 2016
"If I have seen further than others, it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants."

-Isaac Newton

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
24. I couldn't be prouder of standing with Hillary Clinton.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 06:53 PM
Jan 2016
"If I have seen further than others, it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants."

-Isaac Newton
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
36. I Couldn't Be Prouder Having My Kids Stand Against Her
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:10 AM - Edit history (1)

I don't want their peers in prison or fighting wars for the spoiled .01%. Voting for Hillary is just supporting the Bush Agenda. How on earth could any of us consciously support someone with the rare honorary title of Bush Family member? She didn't even wince when multiple Bushes bestowed that "accolade". She was gracious. You really must look more deeply into her connections and actions. Taking money from private prison corporations? Those people should be in jail themselves at the very least.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
40. If you believe the Bush's and the Clinton's have the same plans for America...
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 07:40 PM
Jan 2016

If you believe the Bush's and the Clinton's have the same plans for America there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.

I saw Bush Pere and Barbara Bush speak glowingly of President Obama. Do you think he should say he rejects their kind words?

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
50. I Said RARE!
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:16 AM
Jan 2016

Obama is not considered a family member. Both Clintons are. Yes the Bushes are happy Obama didn't prosecute them just like Bill Clinton didn't. But make no mistake the Clintons membership in that family is rare. How foolish and naive of you to try and tell us it's inconsequential. And Bill was buddying up to Bush Sr in the early 80s at their private retreat in Kennebunkport. It's very out of the way and not just crossing paths at insider cocktail parties. By the way, Clinton's foreign policy is very close to Bush's. And Bill had a higher incarceration rate than Bush. The Clintons war on average Americans i.e. The Drug War is the same as Bush's.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
52. Wow
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:56 AM
Jan 2016

Ok Tony Blair, David Rockefeller, once upon a time Donald Trump etc. You gotta be very regressive and suffering from some kind of Stockholm Syndrome to be enamored with Hillary Clinton. She's going to lose the primary again I bet.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
45. they love her many pals like that, and stand by them too t
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 07:46 PM
Jan 2016

much as they've long been silent on the negative ramifications of things like welfare and criminal justice reform spearheaded by her husband.

And if Clinton 2.0 conducts itself similarly, you can darn sure betcha the more enamored will be here to defend that too.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
43. That last graphic....
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 07:44 PM
Jan 2016

You forgot to have his name next to it like the others. Of course, we DO know who it is, but if he's thrown his hopes behind Hillary, he should then get credit for having done so. Or is it just wishful thinking? I imagine he'll be all long-faced if Bernie should (by some astronomical long shot) emerge the Dem nominee.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
48. Obama's there, to more or less
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 11:13 PM
Jan 2016

find out who is the next family that receives the set of keys to the house.

Cha

(297,075 posts)
47. What an Awesome OP, DSB.. thank you! Gabby has come so far.. Gabby and Mark!
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 10:43 PM
Jan 2016



Photo: US President Obama meets former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and husband Mark Kelly in Oval Office - @petesouza

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/mark-kelly/

delrem

(9,688 posts)
49. You use the phrase "I stand with" a lot.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 11:53 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Mon Jan 11, 2016, 01:02 AM - Edit history (1)

But what does it mean?

Here's what's bothering me. As a young teen I heard MLK's speech, "I had a dream" and in hindsight I can't even say how far I was from actually understanding what he was saying. After all, I was WHITE, and CANADIAN, and ROMAN CATHOLIC, and MOSTLY UNAWARE OF CANADIAN INJUSTICE TOWARD NON-WHITES.

That was the small pond I grew up in and I still cry inside when I remember how the only black kid in the junior high school up there was treated. "Hey bleck man!" It's just horrendous and maybe I didn't say the phrases, but the coolest kids did and I just stood there. Desperately wanting to be "in". That kid got it worse than even the first-nations kids, because he didn't have a larger community at all. I just stood there, without a hope of ever being "in", but I just stood there just the same. I didn't do anything.

That's for some context. But the MLK speech that I heard on the radio (at night - radio signals had better range at night back then) did move me and I wrote a trite little essay that mentioned it in a free-topic essay assignment for English that got an "A". And I knew that I got the "A" for showing that I was at least semi-aware of MLK's speech and his movement. The incentive worked. As I matured I became more socially aware. At a slow pace, to be sure, but no, I don't like Trump. I don't think Bernie is like Trump... I'm at least that aware.

So I'd say that back then and in my small way I "stood with MLK", and as my life progressed I've realized how any such kind of "standing with" is difficult, at best only partially understood, more of a learning experience where my "standing with" is to keep myself open to learning, overcoming my conditioning as best I can. But then, your colleague at DU, who you "stand with", has for several months now run a totally dismissive - disdainful even - sig line (copy/pasted):
"Please Note: I AM NOT SAYING BERNIE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE ... AFTER ALL, HE MARCHED WITH MARTIN!"

So what does "stand with" mean? Really.
Does it mean that my "standing with MLK" in my small and almost observable way is repugnant, wrong, a putting on of false airs by a "white progressive" aka "white supremacist", because I prefer Bernie Sanders to Hillary Clinton, whereas if I preferred Hillary to Bernie my idea that I "stand with MLK" would be righteous?

What the fuck kind of "standing with" is that?

This really bothers me about this Democratic Party primary.

eta: even abysmally unaware as I was back then, I knew that Barry Goldwater was bad news. I'd say that everyone who had a hope of "standing with" MLK in any kind of rational reading of the phrase could sense that much. Yet Hillary was older than me, back then, and she didn't see it. Why is that?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
51. All I will say...
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:23 AM
Jan 2016

All I will say, sir, is that my friend and brother, 1SBM, can speak for himself and his opinion carries water with me, especially on issues of race.

As to my "stand with" posts. They are axiomatic.

Respectfully
DSB

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