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George II

(67,782 posts)
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 11:11 AM Jan 2016

Bernie Sanders’s claim that Glass-Steagall banned commercial bank loans to ‘shadow banks’

Bernie Sanders’s claim that Glass-Steagall banned commercial bank loans to ‘shadow banks’

“Secretary Clinton says that Glass-Steagall would not have prevented the financial crisis because shadow banks like AIG and Lehman Brothers, not big commercial banks, were the real culprits. Secretary Clinton is wrong. Shadow banks did gamble recklessly, but where did that money come from? It came from the federally insured bank deposits of big commercial banks — something that would have been banned under the Glass-Steagall Act.”

A key dispute between former secretary of state Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders in the race for the Democratic nomination is the role that the partial repeal of Glass-Steagall played in the 2008 financial crisis. Clinton’s husband, of course, in 1999 signed the law that helped break down the walls between investment banking firms and commercial banks.

Our goal here is not to re-litigate the 1999 legislation’s role in the Great Recession. Each side can muster experts to make their case, though in general we would note that few economic crises (like plane crashes) are the result of one single factor; there is a risk in overemphasizing one reason above others. Even Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who favors reinstalling a version of Glass-Steagall, has acknowledged that crisis probably could not have been avoided if Glass-Steagall had been in place. (The Sanders campaign likes to cite this analysis blaming Glass-Steagall by the regulatory reform group Better Markets.)

So let’s look at Sanders’ specific claim here: That the “shadow banks” got their funds from the “federally insured bank deposits of big commercial banks — something that would have been banned under the Glass-Steagall Act.” Is that correct?

(this is long...more at the link below)

Bottom line?

Three Pinocchios



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/01/11/bernie-sanderss-claim-that-glass-steagall-banned-commercial-bank-loans-to-shadow-banks/
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Bernie Sanders’s claim that Glass-Steagall banned commercial bank loans to ‘shadow banks’ (Original Post) George II Jan 2016 OP
We have Dodd Frank enacted, a bill in which Sanders voted yea on, Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #1
Most revealing msrizzo Jan 2016 #2
"Bernie Sanders’s claim that Glass-Steagall banned commercial bank loans to ‘shadow banks’" NCTraveler Jan 2016 #3
Guess what? Everyone except some Hillary dead enders have forgotten that supposed "crime" Human101948 Jan 2016 #11
Happy Monday!!!!! NCTraveler Jan 2016 #12
Guess I'm a dead-ender then. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #14
Don't let it get to you...there's a long way to go... Human101948 Jan 2016 #15
Four Pinocchios Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #4
Rhetorical hooey over downright misinformation.... msrizzo Jan 2016 #8
Oh, deflection. How original. n/t MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #10
oh Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #13
Sorry but commercial banks loading up mmonk Jan 2016 #5
On the persistent bullshit that CLINTON repealed Glass-Steagall>>> KittyWampus Jan 2016 #6
I've explained that here countless times.... BooScout Jan 2016 #7
K&R. Hope people take the time to read this. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #9
Three Pinocchios --tsk tsk riversedge Jan 2016 #16
He does not appear to really understand the modern financial industry. nt SunSeeker Jan 2016 #17
KICK! Cha Jan 2016 #18

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. We have Dodd Frank enacted, a bill in which Sanders voted yea on,
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 11:34 AM
Jan 2016

I would think Sanders or his staff would have read the bill before the final vote. The only thing I can think is there is a need of some to revive the twentieth century, if the Dodd Frank bill does not include the wording Sanders thinks is important in Glass Stegall, why doesn't he sponsor a bill which amends the Dodd Frank bill to include the needed wording? Even Elizabeth Warren says the Glass Stegall would not have prevented the financial crisis of 2008 especially after the passage of the CFMA of which Sanders voted yea.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. "Bernie Sanders’s claim that Glass-Steagall banned commercial bank loans to ‘shadow banks’"
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 11:43 AM
Jan 2016

And Sanders is wrong. Isn't this his main issue?

His need to go scorched earth after his campaign was caught stealing Clinton info isn't looking too good for him.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
11. Guess what? Everyone except some Hillary dead enders have forgotten that supposed "crime"
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 01:10 PM
Jan 2016

Try again.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
15. Don't let it get to you...there's a long way to go...
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:42 PM
Jan 2016

Seriously, I don't think it will be of much consequence in determining the outcome this season.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
5. Sorry but commercial banks loading up
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 11:58 AM
Jan 2016

on CDOs on their proprietary accounts would have been prohibited.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
6. On the persistent bullshit that CLINTON repealed Glass-Steagall>>>
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 12:03 PM
Jan 2016

It was a Republican Congress that introduced that bill and it passed both houses with margins so huge a veto would have done nothing to slow it down.

Clinton could have vetoed it as a symbolic measure, I suppose. But it was going to pass effortlessly with or without him.

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
7. I've explained that here countless times....
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 12:17 PM
Jan 2016

I've also explained how Bill Clinton managed to get a compromise in that bill regarding the practice of red-lining....but not many have listened, paid attention or understood. They have a talking point and are sticking to it.

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