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riversedge

(70,191 posts)
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:11 PM Jan 2016

Four women Senators head to Iowa for Hillary



Hillary is very forturnate to have Friends in the Senate go on the trail for her.




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Four women Senators head to Iowa for Hillary
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article54098965.html



January 11, 2016 10:31 AM
Claire McCaskill headed to Iowa to campaign for Hillary Clinton

She joins three other women senators who will make stops in eastern Iowa

By Steve Kraske



............McCaskill will join fellow Sens. Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin, Mazie Hirono of Hawaii and Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota in a series of stops in eastern Iowa, which tends to be the most Democratic part of the state.

The group will focus on Clinton’s “commitment to moving America forward by guaranteeing women’s right to make their own health-care choices,” a statement from Clinton’s campaign said. “Hillary Clinton will always stand up for Planned Parenthood and for a woman’s right to choose.”

The group will stop in Mount Vernon, Dubuque, Waterloo and Mason City Friday and Saturday. Baldwin will make an additional stop on Saturday in Iowa City.

The Iowa caucuses are Feb. 1.


Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/ne ... rylink=cpy
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Four women Senators head to Iowa for Hillary (Original Post) riversedge Jan 2016 OP
The average person does not care. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #1
Even Sanders is laughing at the headline. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #2
I love your gif! artislife Jan 2016 #3
Even Bernie thinks his leads are BS. Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #4
Oh? Are the polls skewed now? Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #5
Yes... his leads are B.ernie S.anders. eom Fawke Em Jan 2016 #7
Actually no, I was 20 feet away from Bernie last night CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #11
This is a caucus and not the GE. Skidmore Jan 2016 #31
Here is how this plays out if the adults are in charge everywhere. Bernie has a great randys1 Jan 2016 #52
You mean 4 out of town politicians ..... TheFarS1de Jan 2016 #29
Yeah - THEM. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #55
Yes, that's what the country wants. More of the same. Fail. In fact, it just might libdem4life Jan 2016 #6
Come on, guys! Conservative Review rates these Senators F's Hortensis Jan 2016 #26
What's with "despise"? Overreact much? libdem4life Jan 2016 #33
Fawk Em's going to have to walk back "establishment drone" Hortensis Jan 2016 #36
Sad to say...the attitude matches the last line. People can disagree with class. libdem4life Jan 2016 #39
Adults use dog shampoo to kill the fleas, Hortensis Jan 2016 #46
Now we're at "slurs on good women"? Yikes. If you'll notice, amidst the put downs, libdem4life Jan 2016 #48
I am a good woman and you just slurred me. eom Fawke Em Jan 2016 #57
I'm female, first. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #56
Fawke, if the Democratic Party were actually Hortensis Jan 2016 #61
I don't need your help. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #62
Good to know where you stand Hekate Jan 2016 #66
Well, Bernie did vote with Dem colleagues 94% of the time. Hortensis Jan 2016 #67
Happy Birthday! Fumesucker Jan 2016 #64
As an Iowan, I find this really desperate and it won't make a difference CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #8
Boils down to this: Fawke Em Jan 2016 #9
I predict a "standing room only" crowd at his concession speech. oasis Jan 2016 #12
Me too! leftofcool Jan 2016 #13
As though Noam Chomsky, Killer Mike and Sarah Silverman could oasis Jan 2016 #17
At least they're not the same ole boring Fawke Em Jan 2016 #45
Speaking of "same ole boring", is there anyone with access to oasis Jan 2016 #51
That's good old fashioned retail politics. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #58
I get what you're saying, but understand, I feel compelled to oasis Jan 2016 #60
They are in their Try-Out Phase. See which one sticks? libdem4life Jan 2016 #34
The spaghetti treatment. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #59
Just a glance at audience reactions tell that story. libdem4life Jan 2016 #37
Claire M is an effective spokesperson. Amy K is engaging and oasis Jan 2016 #10
Yes, they're really impressive women. Hortensis Jan 2016 #16
I've moved on, but I'm proud to carry my Hillary Clinton caucus oasis Jan 2016 #18
Oh, yes. He's very redoubtable, and very popular. Hortensis Jan 2016 #27
Flailing sonofspy777 Jan 2016 #14
Four "very conservative" women. NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #15
Can you back that up with FACTS? oasis Jan 2016 #19
Sure. They endorsed the most hawkish Democrat in history. snoringvoter Jan 2016 #21
Newsflash: Opinions are not FACTS. (eom) oasis Jan 2016 #24
Uhm, Tammy Baldwin is one of the most liberal Democrats in the Senate KingFlorez Jan 2016 #23
Nah, wouldn't bother to look it up NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #53
You look foolish calling Tammy Baldwin conservative. Best educated yourself. riversedge Jan 2016 #49
Thank you, ladies. Beacool Jan 2016 #20
"health care choices?"..... How about real health care chloices? Armstead Jan 2016 #22
Bill was just campaigning for her in Iowa. If he couldn't move her numbers Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #25
Uh oh ... I hear 4 busses starting up!! JoePhilly Jan 2016 #28
Who is stepping up for Bernie? Hillary has a team which is an indication livetohike Jan 2016 #30
The people ram2008 Jan 2016 #32
"Not figureheads in the most unpopular congress in history.: KansDem Jan 2016 #38
Cheering, enthusiastic...gasp...voters. That last sentence...say what? libdem4life Jan 2016 #35
Corporate Hillary Is Toast Because... billhicks76 Jan 2016 #40
Are they going on their own time? Helen Borg Jan 2016 #41
Aloha! My Senator from Hawaii is going to Iowa for Hillary! Brrr! Cha Jan 2016 #42
Yes, she'll probably have to give another speech to pay their expenses. Remember, any libdem4life Jan 2016 #43
. Hillary: "I am a Progressive Democrat who likes to get things done? YES #ImwithHer riversedge Jan 2016 #47
Your definition of Progressive is pretty far and wide, methinks. libdem4life Jan 2016 #50
more reason why Robbins Jan 2016 #44
Fantastic! That's an impressive bunch! NurseJackie Jan 2016 #54
I wish Sanders had more solo events with surrogates. For example, Jane Sanders. NT Eric J in MN Jan 2016 #63
Very cool. Hillary really is known for creating enduring relationships with coworkers. Hekate Jan 2016 #65

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
1. The average person does not care.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:13 PM
Jan 2016

You're more influenced by your neighbor and friends than some establishment drone.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
2. Even Sanders is laughing at the headline.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:17 PM
Jan 2016

(Not the one in the op)

I love how it seems as if he is looking down at it before laughing.

Very funny either way.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
11. Actually no, I was 20 feet away from Bernie last night
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:32 PM
Jan 2016

when he mentioned the recent polling. Bernie said that the polls that have him beating Rubio, Cruz and Trump, in Iowa, by wider margins than Clinton--demonstrate that her "I'm inevitable, Bernie is unelectable" assertions are false.

Clinton doesn't even beat Rubio and Cruz in the battleground state of Iowa.

Bernie also spent a solid ten minutes during his rally, breaking down Clinton's "electability" talking point, and he used recent polls (WSJ/NBC) to demonstrate his point.

So. You're wrong. He not only is proud and encouraged by the recent polls, but he cites those polls to underscore the points that he is making.




Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
31. This is a caucus and not the GE.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:40 PM
Jan 2016

He is tunning against Hilkwry and O'Malley now. Let's not confuse the two.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
52. Here is how this plays out if the adults are in charge everywhere. Bernie has a great
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:37 PM
Jan 2016

showing, and whether he wins or loses ultimately, his HUGE popularity and ability to turn out the vote would all but guarantee either he or Hillary would win in November.

TheFarS1de

(1,017 posts)
29. You mean 4 out of town politicians .....
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jan 2016

That are part of a system that has continually letdown it's voting base are not going to turn this around ! I think I have the vapours ... flashback to 2008

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
6. Yes, that's what the country wants. More of the same. Fail. In fact, it just might
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:20 PM
Jan 2016

reinforce what Bernie is saying. Only women? Every time I turn around there is a gender situation with women for the candidate who says her gender doesn't matter. LOL

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. Come on, guys! Conservative Review rates these Senators F's
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jan 2016

and you despise them because of their records. Which side are you really on?

Super Tuesday is 49 days away. At that point you're probably going to have to decide. After all, the GOP has some real doozies who are promising people who want "change" that nothing will ever be the same again if they're elected.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
33. What's with "despise"? Overreact much?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:42 PM
Jan 2016

Had you read carefully, you would have noticed that the subject was the Woman Card, yet again, and right on the heels of the PP whatever. Throws her gender-free fluff out the proverbial window.

I have no idea ... other than McCaskill...who these women are. It's like "Here Come the Girls/Women"

Oh, and I'm not a guy.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. Fawk Em's going to have to walk back "establishment drone"
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:49 PM
Jan 2016

himself, and the same goes for the others. Do you guys ever return and get a little shocked at the anti-Democratic Party group message you're serving up this election? If I were hoping to get Bernie elected, if there were no other alternative for me, I wouldn't just be disgusted at what's being said under the mantle of Democratic Underground, I'd be so angry I could spit. I'd feel sick.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
39. Sad to say...the attitude matches the last line. People can disagree with class.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:54 PM
Jan 2016

Really they can. Oh, and if you have information specifically for me, have at it. We can discuss it...as adults.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
46. Adults use dog shampoo to kill the fleas,
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:16 PM
Jan 2016

they don't lie down with them and pretend they aren't there. That's not a classy analogy, of course, but then I don't see anything classy about the kind of slurs on good women I was discussing -- to put it mildly.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
48. Now we're at "slurs on good women"? Yikes. If you'll notice, amidst the put downs,
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:24 PM
Jan 2016

HRC is second on my list. Your hyperbole is, uh, distasteful, at best.

Peace out.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
56. I'm female, first.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:26 PM
Jan 2016

I'm 45 (well, I'll be 46 tomorrow), Southern and Irish Catholic. You'd think I'd be a Hillarite, given my demo, but, the thing is, I read. I know what she's about and she's not "with" me.

There is NOTHING I've said that's anti-Democratic. The fact is that I'm tired of the Democrats lurching further and further right. We're supposed to be the party of unions, the average worker and equality who thinks before we go to war. We've not been that my ENTIRE voting lifetime, which sucks.

I won't walk back ANYTHING.

After Harold Ford Jr., establishment DINO extraordinaire from my state (and someone I know, personally) had a conniption fit over Bernie's polling numbers on MSNBC this morning, I know I'm on the correct path.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
61. Fawke, if the Democratic Party were actually
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:21 AM
Jan 2016
all a bunch of "establishment drones," still lurching right as you so mistakenly choose to imagine (how on earth could you support that notion over the past decade?), Bernie couldn't accomplish anything if he were elected. With both parties mostly united to stop him, he would be a failed president. Fortunately, you are very wrong and Bernie has a lot of support in his party for what he wants to accomplish.

Bernie is not a Democratic outsider, he just positions himself that way. He is literally where he is today because of the Democratic Party that he has been an unofficial part of for a quarter century in Washington. He IS one of the long-time Democrats you characterize as establishment drones. He was there voting with the pack through all the bad times when the party went along with so much we despise and failed to do so much that we resent. Actions count, not words pretending the actions never existed. If the party moved right and stayed there, so did he.

Except that Bernie is not a right-wing Democratic business drone. Of course. So if he's not, maybe your picture of all his other colleagues as drones marching rightward en bloc needs adjustment? Your wishes for change today, in fact, are reflected in many of them, including those you insulted so unfairly in this thread. And in me. We mostly want the same things; the difference is that I'm not trying to shoot down my natural allies in an excess of misdirected resentment.

It would help to understand the Democratic Party better. Why not read something that will give a little perspective on history?

This article describes the party over those bad years up until today. It's not the be-all/end-all of information, but it provides a big picture and would be a place to start replacing some of that frustrated resentment with justified hope. Whether Bernie wins or Bernie loses, change has been happening and will continue. Why America is Moving Left,
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/01/why-america-is-moving-left/419112/

The Atlantic has some good stuff about Bernie you'd like too. What if Bernie Sanders is the Democrats' Best Bet? http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/wildfire-berning/423552/

And the current issue also has an article about a progressive party that probably thinks of you as a Democratic establishment drone because you're not with them.

BTW, The Atlantic is considered a moderate publication. I like that because I can pretty much be depended on to provide my own leftward spin on things and know how easy it can be to slip into ideologic delusions.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
62. I don't need your help.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:40 AM
Jan 2016

This party has sucked for 30 years, but it's better than the suck ass Republicans.

If Bernie isn't the nominee. I'm done.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
67. Well, Bernie did vote with Dem colleagues 94% of the time.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jan 2016

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What do they think that means?

In spite of her name, my best guess is Fawke Em would get over it if Hillary won. Pointing out that one's iconoclaustic hero has been mostly in lock-step with supposed "right-moving establishment drones" for 25 years may have caused a bern instead of a reality check.

The message, Fawke and others, is that just maybe a lot of Democratic representatives are not "establishment drones," much less hopelessly to the right on issues.

Just maybe some of them have been working for the kind of change we want for many years, in reality struggling to stop the nation's massive move rightward and battling the forces of conservatism to slowly, slowly get it turning left again. And just maybe many others wanted the same things but mostly didn't fight, waiting out those hard years until the time came when they could move left again without getting tossed out of Congress. (Yes, I agree -- most do like their jobs too much.)

Just maybe Bernie's positions and goals are very similar to those of a number of his colleagues, just differing somewhat in how to get there.

You might also wonder WHY Elizabeth Warren started voting Democrat in 1995 after decades with the GOP. Did she move left so she could move right with Democrat "establishment drones?" Just maybe she wanted to support those Democratic representatives who were trying to stop corporate infiltration of government and growing economic inequality.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
8. As an Iowan, I find this really desperate and it won't make a difference
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary has trouble drawing small crowds to her events. What exactly does she believe that senators from other states are going to do?

I understand that Clinton is throwing the kitchen sink at her campaign, which is taking on water.

However, this is not going to move the needle.

The only people who will attend these events are Clinton supporters, and the audiences will be very small.

I guess you can't fault her for trying.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
9. Boils down to this:
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jan 2016

To get crowds, Hillary needs a rock star.

But, the crowds go to Bernie because Bernie IS a rock star.



(Hey. He's drawing as many people as the Rolling Stones and The Who!)

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
13. Me too!
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:46 PM
Jan 2016

Looks like bernie supporters really hate when Democrats go out on the campaign trail for Democrats.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
17. As though Noam Chomsky, Killer Mike and Sarah Silverman could
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:26 PM
Jan 2016

woo Iowa voters with their expertise on "kitchen table" issues. Who?

oasis

(49,376 posts)
51. Speaking of "same ole boring", is there anyone with access to
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:29 PM
Jan 2016

a tv who can't recite Bernie's stump speech, word for word?

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
58. That's good old fashioned retail politics.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:40 PM
Jan 2016

If the media isn't covering you - and they weren't for a long time - then you repeat yourself.

Most people aren't as involved as we are on DU and haven't heard his stump speech.

I work in PR and I know he's absolutely correct in repeating himself. Repetition breeds familiarity.

And, judging by today's polls: it's working.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
60. I get what you're saying, but understand, I feel compelled to
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:22 PM
Jan 2016

respond to unprovoked negative attacks on pro-Hillary OPs which are positive in nature. As I have stated on DU many times before, I respect and admire Bernie. I have carried this sentiment toward him for many years, long before his presidential aspirations.

In my final remark to you, which, btw, has nothing to do with my feelings about Bernie; in closing your last post you wrote as an explanation for Bernie's repeating himself "repetition breeds familiarity". Being in PR, you have undoubtedly heard the expression,"familiarity breeds contempt".

Didn't want to spring that one on you in the context of what I was trying to convey earlier so there would be no confusion about my intent. But I just had to get that out, being the blustery soul that I am.

Anyway, as always, I suppose we can end this chapter of our history of encounters in a peaceful way.

Have a good evening.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
10. Claire M is an effective spokesperson. Amy K is engaging and
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jan 2016

possesses a great deal of wit. Tammy Baldwin is an impressive war veteran. Mazie Hirono is an experienced campaigner. She does her homework.

I campaigned for Mazie years ago when she ran for governor of Hawaii against Republican, Linda Lingle. She lost to Lingle but, in later years, won one of Hawaii's two Congressional seats. I was delighted to learn she had won a U.S. Senate seat after I had taken up residency in Nevada.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Yes, they're really impressive women.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:24 PM
Jan 2016

Are you in Nevada these days, Oasis? I just read this bold prediction in Ralston Reports: "Hillary Clinton will win the Nevada caucus on Feb. 20, but it will be closer than people expect. She will then talk about how much she loves the state. After she wins, Harry Reid will boldly endorse her." LOL.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
18. I've moved on, but I'm proud to carry my Hillary Clinton caucus
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:39 PM
Jan 2016

card from the 2008 election cycle. I worked for her campaign in 2007.

Late in 2007, Bill Clinton headed a fundraiser at Andre Agassi's college prep school for the disadvantaged on Lake Mead Blvd. Bill packed them in and gave a mesmerizing address.

He is definitely a valuable asset to Hillary's campaign.

 

snoringvoter

(178 posts)
21. Sure. They endorsed the most hawkish Democrat in history.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:50 PM
Jan 2016

Fact. They are, under assumption, extremely conservative and doesn't really belong in the Democratic Party.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
23. Uhm, Tammy Baldwin is one of the most liberal Democrats in the Senate
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jan 2016

When she ran for the open seat in 2012, there were pundits who labeled her too liberal to win, yet she won anyway. It's a good idea to do research before you make silly statements.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
53. Nah, wouldn't bother to look it up
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:13 PM
Jan 2016

because if they back the status quo then they are of no interest to me.

riversedge

(70,191 posts)
49. You look foolish calling Tammy Baldwin conservative. Best educated yourself.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:24 PM
Jan 2016

15. Four "very conservative" women. is a big NOPE

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
22. "health care choices?"..... How about real health care chloices?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jan 2016

How about saying "NO" to the lobbyists and Big Money Donors and support actual universal health coverage for everyone based on income?


Nah....never mind.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
25. Bill was just campaigning for her in Iowa. If he couldn't move her numbers
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:01 PM
Jan 2016

I don't know why anyone thinks some Senators from other states can come in and improve things for her.

This looks desperate.



livetohike

(22,140 posts)
30. Who is stepping up for Bernie? Hillary has a team which is an indication
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:36 PM
Jan 2016

of how she will govern and Bernie has what? Even the people he works with don't seem to support him in any way.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
38. "Not figureheads in the most unpopular congress in history.:
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:52 PM
Jan 2016


Ain't that the truth!

Sometimes when I see or hear what this Congress is doing (or not doing), I think "$174,000 a year; best health care; best retirement; best benefits..."


 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
35. Cheering, enthusiastic...gasp...voters. That last sentence...say what?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:47 PM
Jan 2016

ETA: I forgot to mention that Bernie doesn't have Goldman Sacks et al to fund staff and such. Bernie primarily has silly little volunteers from amongst the Peasantry.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
40. Corporate Hillary Is Toast Because...
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:55 PM
Jan 2016

Sanders just hinted Elizaneth Warren will be his VP running mate. I feel so sad for those who own Wall St, private prisons, mass surveillance contractors and those who make weapons intended to tear limbs off little children. Such a sad day in Good Morning America.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
43. Yes, she'll probably have to give another speech to pay their expenses. Remember, any
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:01 PM
Jan 2016

publicity is good publicity.

Bringing in Bill is terrible...mostly for him, but then..... And Chelsea has a baby and a husband...can't think they are thrilled at being called out on the campaign trail.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
65. Very cool. Hillary really is known for creating enduring relationships with coworkers.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:49 AM
Jan 2016

By contrast with a candidate from the Other Side -- Ted Cruz has no friends in the Senate that I have heard of, and in fact seems to be universally loathed.

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