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cali

(114,904 posts)
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:25 PM Jan 2016

Bernie doesn't have a finance team- and that's extraordinary

Bernie Sanders loves to talk about the fact that he doesn’t have a super-PAC backing his campaign. But the true state of his fundraising strategy is even more astonishing than that: The Sanders campaign doesn’t have a finance team.

And that’s a big deal.

Every competitive presidential campaign in recent election cycles has had team of people exclusively dedicated to finances: figuring out how much money the campaign needs, putting together a plan to get that money, and then making it all come together.

<snip>

That’s why candidates like Clinton (and Bush, and Rubio, and Cruz) pony up big bucks to hire fundraising professionals who have connections to open-handed would-be contributors. And getting that money costs a lot of money.

<snip>
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/11/bernie-sanders-s-millions-raised-sans-money-men.html

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Bernie doesn't have a finance team- and that's extraordinary (Original Post) cali Jan 2016 OP
K & R! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #1
Bernie does have a super-PAC backing his campaign Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #2
Which he has no control over. It is as disingenuous as could be to call it his cali Jan 2016 #3
... Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #4
Lol. Wow. That was a brilliant rejoinder. cali Jan 2016 #5
The very first sentence in your OP is a lie Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #8
What is the lie? And it's a quote from the article. cali Jan 2016 #9
Reading is fundamental Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #11
Grasping at straws, my dear. Particularly funny considering the unsavory cali Jan 2016 #12
So who figures out how many $2,700 seats bvf Jan 2016 #6
Three Pinocchios -->Bernie Sanders’s claim that Glass-Steagall banned commercial bank loans to ‘shad riversedge Jan 2016 #7
And what does that have to do with the op? cali Jan 2016 #10
It is very much related to finances. riversedge Jan 2016 #13
Intelligent people understand very well what Bernie meant by that. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #17
Desperation is evident in the Hillary camp. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #18
Confidence and Conviction Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #21
Yes, there is a SUPER PAC associated with Bernie Sheepshank Jan 2016 #14
Asking Thom. PyaarRevolution Jan 2016 #15
What did Thom tell you? n/t Sheepshank Jan 2016 #26
Yes he does. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #16
I can't figure out how not having a finance team is a good thing. nolabear Jan 2016 #19
Maybe... PyaarRevolution Jan 2016 #22
About $40 million collected and he doesn't have a finance team? Who does the FEC filings? George II Jan 2016 #20
Kinda disconcerting that he wants to manage Skidmore Jan 2016 #23
Act Blue does most of the work for him including his store sales Omaha Steve Jan 2016 #24
Finance team or fundraising team? Sheepshank Jan 2016 #25
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
2. Bernie does have a super-PAC backing his campaign
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jan 2016

Bernie is lying when he says he doesn't have a super-PAC backing his campaign.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. Which he has no control over. It is as disingenuous as could be to call it his
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jan 2016

Unlike your candidate he isn't coordinating with it. hill supporters attacking him on this doesn't pass the smell test.

Not to mention that it has nothing to do with the op. Pitiful attempt at deflection.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
8. The very first sentence in your OP is a lie
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:03 PM
Jan 2016

There entire post falls apart on the first sentence.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
11. Reading is fundamental
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:11 PM
Jan 2016

Follow along, my dear....

Bernie Sanders pledges not to accept super PAC support

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Sunday reiterated his pledge not to accept super PAC support but stopped short of knocking Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton’s decision to court allied super PAC donors.

“I understand where she is coming from. But I will not have a super PAC,” Sanders, who last month launched a bid for the Democratic presidential nomination, said on “Face the Nation” on Sunday. “...I don't think we're going to outspend Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush or anybody else, but I think we are going to raise the kinds of money that we need to run a strong and winning campaign.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/05/10/bernie-sanders-pledges-not-to-accept-super-pac-support/


Bernie Sanders benefits from $569,000 in super PAC support from nurses union

Bernie Sanders can often be heard on the campaign trail decrying the role of money in politics. Sanders has stated many times he does not have a super PAC, and even dedicated a page on his website entitled “I don’t have a super PAC.” But it seems he's getting super PAC support — whether he wants it or not.

National Nurses United endorsed Sanders on Aug. 11, and to date the group's affiliated super PAC has spent a little more than $569,000 in support of him. The spending ranges from print and online ads to printing materials, with significant buys in key states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada. As of the last super PAC filing on June 30, the group had about $250,000 cash on hand.


National Nurses United for Patient Protection is a super PAC whose primary donor is National Nurses United, a union of more than 185,000 registered nurses across all 50 states. The super PAC also has another donor from its filing earlier this year, a 527 group called Progressive Kick, which runs donor-matching programs for progressive causes.

https://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-benefits-from-566000-in-super-pac-support-from-nurses-union/



Union super PAC helps Sanders and he won't tell them to stop

(CNN)Bernie Sanders declined to disavow a super PAC spending money on his behalf in an interview with CNN on Monday and contradicted a statement his campaign made about the political entities he has long spoken out against.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/23/politics/bernie-sanders-super-pac-nurses/
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
12. Grasping at straws, my dear. Particularly funny considering the unsavory
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:16 PM
Jan 2016

Coordination of camp hilly with superpacs and her endless big money fundraising.

riversedge

(70,200 posts)
7. Three Pinocchios -->Bernie Sanders’s claim that Glass-Steagall banned commercial bank loans to ‘shad
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:02 PM
Jan 2016

Bernie needs some expert advice in finance......

Three Pinocchios -->Bernie Sanders’s claim that Glass-Steagall banned commercial bank loans to ‘shadow banks’ -http://demu.gr/1251994159 #p2

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. And what does that have to do with the op?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:09 PM
Jan 2016

Where's hilly today? Off at one of her fundraisers chasing fat cat $$$$. Big money corrupts. Hillary is up to her neck in it.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. Desperation is evident in the Hillary camp.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:46 PM
Jan 2016

Voters trust Bernie. We understand what he is talking about even if Hillary fans can't.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
14. Yes, there is a SUPER PAC associated with Bernie
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:17 PM
Jan 2016

....and Bernie hired it's Treasurer to work in his campaign.

Which was entirely stupid to build his campaign with people that don't know enough about campaign laws to avoid late filing and getting fined. Nice choice Bernie. I can't for the life of me figure out why it's a good thing to surrounds one'self with people who don't have the knowledge to play within campaign rules.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/bernie-sanders-2016-campaign-staff-power-players-118282
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/04/bernie-sanders-campaign-finance_n_7724766.html

I find it highly amusing that Bernie supporters attempt so many times to alighn every other candidate with PACs and try so very hard to pretend that Bernie isn't involved and doesnt have PACs. Oh yeah, I know they talking point today is that He doesn "have" them, but it doesn't stop attempting to pretend there isn't any at all, while pressing the point that the Evil Hillary "has" super PACs.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/30/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-only-presidential-candidates-withou/

"Unlike virtually every other campaign, we don't have a super PAC which collects money from billionaires and corporations," he tweeted.
<SNIP>
But he and Trump both have unaffiliated super PACs backing them.



 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
16. Yes he does.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:36 PM
Jan 2016

"Bernie Sanders loves to talk about the fact that he doesn’t have a super-PAC backing his campaign."

"figuring out how much money the campaign needs, putting together a plan to get that money, and then making it all come together."

then it would appear his campaign is the only entity in the country that doesn't discuss a budget. This is so very strange. The first sentence is a lie and Sanders is so goo we're going to tell you he doesn't even budget. Some of the math he has presented, or hasn't, is making more sense now.

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
19. I can't figure out how not having a finance team is a good thing.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:55 PM
Jan 2016

Having a good organization to mesh with and carry out the needs of your people seems like a precursor to creating them once elected.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
23. Kinda disconcerting that he wants to manage
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:39 PM
Jan 2016

the world's largest executive office and he practices voodo bookkeeping with his campaign.

Omaha Steve

(99,609 posts)
24. Act Blue does most of the work for him including his store sales
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:03 PM
Jan 2016

I know because I now run nine Act Blue links for Democrats on two sites with 1,233 donations since May first so far.

http://support.actblue.com/tutorial#donor-data





 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
25. Finance team or fundraising team?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jan 2016

I'd think some internal accounting would be necessary to pay for property rentals, light bills and advertising and track money for necessary campaign filing laws? If he doesn't have any accounting going on, I find that frightening.

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