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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:32 PM Jan 2016

NEW Quinnipiac IOWA POLL: SANDERS 49 (+9); CLINTON 44 (-7)

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders has climbed to a slim lead over national frontrunner Hillary Clinton in a new Iowa poll.

With just 20 days remaining until the first-in-the-nation caucus, a Quinnipiac University poll released today shows Sanders leading Clinton for the first time in the Hawkeye State with 49 percent support -- his highest support in any Iowa poll yet. Clinton garnered 44 percent support.

That's a 9 percentage point increase for Sanders and a 7-point drop for Clinton since the last Quinnipiac poll in Iowa almost one month ago.


Sanders' lead, which is still barely within the margin of error, is bolstered by a broad gender gap. Sanders earns support from six in 10 men and leads Clinton by 31 points among that group. Meanwhile, Clinton leads among women by 16 points.

The poll comes as the Vermont senator's campaign continues to gain momentum in his neighboring state of New Hampshire. He's led recent polling there by double digits, threatening to deliver a blow to Clinton's campaign in the first two contests.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-takes-slim-lead-hillary-clinton-iowa/story?id=36240514

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NEW Quinnipiac IOWA POLL: SANDERS 49 (+9); CLINTON 44 (-7) (Original Post) morningfog Jan 2016 OP
I love this Robbins Jan 2016 #1
That's how I see it. A one-two punch to start the voting. morningfog Jan 2016 #2
Hill people always like to use polls as their argument floriduck Jan 2016 #4
we are seeing 2004 and 2008 all over again Robbins Jan 2016 #5
Hell yes! d_legendary1 Jan 2016 #30
K&R CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #3
I love Bernie!!! <3 <3 <3 dirtydickcheney Jan 2016 #6
Looks like PPP is the outlier. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #7
Even PPP has bad news Robbins Jan 2016 #10
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #8
This is so damn sweet. in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #9
hey? where'd that Clinton supporter go? retrowire Jan 2016 #11
Supporter, one, singular? There seem to be several missing today. n/t A Simple Game Jan 2016 #17
They are at work. They'll be along as soon as they get some time. HubertHeaver Jan 2016 #31
Isn't it great? morningfog Jan 2016 #20
They're busy perpetuating fibs about us hating her supporters! MrMickeysMom Jan 2016 #21
The bad news for them is that we aren't running for president d_legendary1 Jan 2016 #32
does it not occur to them retrowire Jan 2016 #35
kick! n/t in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #12
Even better than the ARG poll OnlinePoker Jan 2016 #13
This is great!!! nt wolfie001 Jan 2016 #14
A great candidate + people power = recipe for success! senz Jan 2016 #15
Think the Clinton team now wishes there were more debates scheduled? Red Oak Jan 2016 #16
DWS calls for a couple of "emergency" debates left-of-center2012 Jan 2016 #19
Didn't she just yesterday put out a message .. Trajan Jan 2016 #34
K&R n/t Oilwellian Jan 2016 #18
Well, that kind of news is a shot to the arm Babel_17 Jan 2016 #22
Thrilling...it really is! K&R Duval Jan 2016 #23
Now add all the aspirant Jan 2016 #24
WOW! I now have the feeling that jomin41 Jan 2016 #25
we are reaching the tipping point virtualobserver Jan 2016 #27
She's already started Dretownblues Jan 2016 #37
Yup...and his lead will continue to grow. SoapBox Jan 2016 #26
If this holds and builds, there will be a new narrative from now until Feb. 20 (and beyond?).... morningfog Jan 2016 #28
But gravis has Hillary at 98% vs Bernie at -11%. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #29
This says more about IA than about Hillary. Beacool Jan 2016 #33
Snort. And up until she was trailing, Iowa was hunky dorry. morningfog Jan 2016 #36
Nope, I always thought that they are given far too much importance. Beacool Jan 2016 #38
So when she loses both Iowa and New Hampshire, you will have meaningless excuses for both? Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #40
Believe what you want, I don't really care. Beacool Jan 2016 #41
Agreed, but they do help to shape the race, Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #42
I don't trust Quinnipiac, even when it tells me what I want to hear. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #39

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
1. I love this
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:36 PM
Jan 2016

Quinnipiac can't be dismissed.

Bernie is ahead because his support among men is higher than Clinton's support of women and he has more women supporting him
than clinton has men.

Those thinking bernie could win both Iowa and NH don't sound so crazy anymore

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
4. Hill people always like to use polls as their argument
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jan 2016

for why Hill will win. I would prefer to let the polls speak for themselves and know that grass roots activism is the real reason Bernie will win. The polls are just a result of grass root efforts.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
5. we are seeing 2004 and 2008 all over again
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:57 PM
Jan 2016

It was only in final weeks before iowa that Kerry started to move.and it was in final weeks that Obama started to look like he
could win iowa.

we are now at point when many move beyond who they know and really think about who to vote for.

I supported dean in 2004 but a big part of why Kerry won was he listened to people.even those who disagreed with him on IWR.

Bernie has been working on earning support In Iowa.and it's paying off.

Bernie has been doing it without establishment support and with untill now MSM blackout.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
30. Hell yes!
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:50 PM
Jan 2016

Apparently she hasn't yet learned that being a Clinton does not guarantee a victory. Didn't work in 2008 and its not gonna work now.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
7. Looks like PPP is the outlier.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:13 PM
Jan 2016

Guess that's what you get when you're a valued customer of the polling company.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
10. Even PPP has bad news
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:26 PM
Jan 2016

O'Malley supporters have bernie as second choice far more than Clinton.if he doesn't hit 15% in countys Bernie will benefit by getting many of his supporters.

As you said I don't trust PPP during primary with them being paid by correct the record superpac.conflict of Intrest there.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
11. hey? where'd that Clinton supporter go?
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jan 2016

you know, the one that would post the quinnipiac poll every day to inform us all how the primaries were going?

wonder why they stopped posting the poll?

hmmmmmm....

could it be because Hillary is no longer in the lead? nahhh, that can't be it.

HubertHeaver

(2,522 posts)
31. They are at work. They'll be along as soon as they get some time.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jan 2016

Gotta earn a living, you know. After all, they don't get paid to post here, do they?


MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
21. They're busy perpetuating fibs about us hating her supporters!
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jan 2016

It's easier to attack Bernie Sander's supporters at this juncture, I'd say...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110733705

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
32. The bad news for them is that we aren't running for president
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jan 2016

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT BERNIE IS!!! Now they're feeling the Bern!!!!

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
35. does it not occur to them
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:57 PM
Jan 2016

that those people attacking the head of PP could be the usual suspects?

ie: pro lifers, anti Hillary republicans, etc?

im sure some are Bernie supporters, but to say they're all Bernie supporters? lol where is their "scientific data" to back up that claim?

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
13. Even better than the ARG poll
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:56 PM
Jan 2016

Someone in the following thread said ARG was a bad poll in 2012, but it looks like they may have it right this time.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141311738

Red Oak

(697 posts)
16. Think the Clinton team now wishes there were more debates scheduled?
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:22 PM
Jan 2016

They obviously have one coming up Sunday, but that may not be enough for her to pull even in either Iowa or New Hampshire.

Let's see if DWS calls for a couple of "emergency" debates after the one this Sunday. That would be hilarious.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
19. DWS calls for a couple of "emergency" debates
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jan 2016

No. She'll say she is conceding to Bernie's request for more debates.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
34. Didn't she just yesterday put out a message ..
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:56 PM
Jan 2016

Requesting 'more spirited debates'? ....

It was actually quite hilarious ... She suddenly has a desire for more debate face-time ... Her increasing ardor for debates will probably find a member of the DNC leadership who is willing to help her get those debates ...

Crazy world, eh?

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
22. Well, that kind of news is a shot to the arm
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jan 2016

Though the Sanders campaign would still be energized to win had it been not as good.

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
24. Now add all the
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:13 PM
Jan 2016

newly interested Millennials. the cell phoners and the first time voters and you have a landslide

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
27. we are reaching the tipping point
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:30 PM
Jan 2016

once Hillary's inevitability bubble bursts.......That is when Hillary will start to go very negative.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
26. Yup...and his lead will continue to grow.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:27 PM
Jan 2016

For the 99%, he's the only common sense candidate running on either side.

Person by person, state by state...his numbers will increase.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
28. If this holds and builds, there will be a new narrative from now until Feb. 20 (and beyond?)....
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:30 PM
Jan 2016

M O M E N T U M.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
33. This says more about IA than about Hillary.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:54 PM
Jan 2016

"Men support Sanders 61 percent to 30 percent, while women back Clinton 55 percent to 39 percent." Prior to Joni Ernst's election to the Senate in 2014, in their 168 years, IA had never sent a woman to Congress nor had a woman governor.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
38. Nope, I always thought that they are given far too much importance.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 05:02 PM
Jan 2016

I have opposed caucuses for years. IMO they are not democratic in this day and age. They shouldn't exist anymore, all states should hold primaries. I also think that our election system is flawed. No other nation drags the process for almost two years.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
40. So when she loses both Iowa and New Hampshire, you will have meaningless excuses for both?
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jan 2016

How convenient.



Beacool

(30,247 posts)
41. Believe what you want, I don't really care.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 05:05 PM
Jan 2016

I do know though, that neither state represents the nation. They are both mostly white and rural.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
42. Agreed, but they do help to shape the race,
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 05:10 PM
Jan 2016

and when you consider the trends that already exist, they could have quite an impact this time around.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-polls/011116-789089-hillaryclinton-lead-nearly-vanishes-among-democrats.htm

^snip^


With just 21 days until the presidential primaries officially begin in Iowa, Hillary Clinton's support among Democrats nationally has taken a serious tumble, falling eight points to 43%, according to the latest IBD/TIPP Poll. Support for her chief rival, Bernie Sanders, rose six points to 39%.

As a result, Clinton's lead over Sanders, which had been 18 points, is now just four points.

Other polls have shown the race tightening in Iowa, which holds its caucuses on Feb. 1, and New Hampshire, which has its primary eight days later. Two recent New Hampshire surveys have Sanders in the lead, and the latest NBC poll in Iowa has Sanders just three points behind Clinton.

.cms



 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
39. I don't trust Quinnipiac, even when it tells me what I want to hear.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 05:02 PM
Jan 2016

I am glad to see these numbers but I need more than one source for them.

I do still believe that Bernie will over perform in a caucus situation. The enthusiasm of his supporters are such that they are more likely to go through that process for him.

I also still believe that some of Hillary's support is just name recognition and that she will tend to under perform, especially in a caucus.





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