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[Mosby]

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[JohnSJ]

1. No fan of the regime in Iran, but with what trump did unilaterally throwing out the agreement, this

should be no surprise, add the uncertainty of the midterms, it would be surprising if anything is agreed to

[WHITT]

2. Except

What we’ve seen in the last couple of days is that Iran right now does not seem to be serious about doing what’s necessary to return to compliance

It's the U.S. that is not in "compliance", and has not been since Dumbass Donnie violated the agreement.

Interestingly, the agreement was written that if any party violated the agreement, the other parties would no longer be bound by the agreement. Obviously, this was aimed at Iran, but without naming names, it means that when Dumbass Donnie violated the agreement, Iran was no longer bound by the agreement, and therefore cannot be out of compliance.

Iran will not be bound by the agreement until AFTER the U.S. first returns to compliance, which would not only involve removal of all punitive sanctions, but also restoring all the economic advantages promised under the agreement.

[Mosby]

3. Well none of that is going to happen.

So I expect Israel will deal with this on their own. Iran has already enriched some uranium up to 60%, so time is short.

[WHITT]

4. Not A Good Look

when you don't abide by the agreements you sign. Why would Iran, or any other country trust to enter into any future agreements?

So I expect Israel will deal with this on their own.

You mean the bumbling RightWing Fascists?

Very funny.

Their past track record is dismal, resulting in only minor setbacks, and the centrifuges are now even more isolated from cyber attacks.

There's no military option, as their facilities are too far underground even for U.S. 'Bunker Busters' to reach, which the U.S. wouldn't trust the Israeli RightWing Fascists with anyway.

Iran has already enriched some uranium up to 60%, so time is short.

Gee, looks like ignoring the RightWing Fascists and doing the legal, honorable, correct thing might be the only option.

[Mosby]

5. Your analysis is not supported by members of the JCPOA

No one is requiring the US to remove sanctions like you claim, for example, and even China and Russia are surprised by the Iranians attitude.

Iran came to Vienna “with proposals that walked back anything – any of the compromises Iran had floated here in the six rounds of talks, pocket all of the compromises that others, and the US in particular, had made, and then asked for more”, the senior official was quoted saying by Reuters.

He said it was not clear when the talks would resume, and that Washington was “preparing for a world in which there is no return to the JCPOA,” a reference to the deal’s official name, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action.

Russia and China “also were quite taken aback by the degree to which Iran had walked back its own compromises and then doubled down on the requests that it (made),” he said. “They do share a sense of disappointment, to put it diplomatically.”

He said more sanctions would likely come if Washington concludes that Iran had killed the negotiations.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-says-wont-let-iran-slow-walk-talks-is-preparing-for-a-world-without-jcpoa/?utm_source=The+Daily+Edition&utm_campaign=daily-edition-2021-12-05&utm_medium=email

Basically your promoting the Iranian view of the JCPOA and sanctions.

Iran repeated its claim Sunday that the United States’ refusal to lift all sanctions on Tehran was the main obstacle to a potential nuclear deal.

“It is now clear that Washington’s reluctance to give up sanctions altogether is the main challenge to the progress of the talks,” the unnamed Iranian official was quoted as saying by Iran’s Tasnim news agency, according to Reuters.

“We believe that a deal is within reach if the US government gives up its campaign of maximum pressure and the European parties show serious flexibility and political will in the talks,” the official said.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-says-us-refusal-to-remove-sanctions-is-main-obstacle-to-nuclear-deal/

[WHITT]

6. HEH

He said more sanctions would likely come if Washington concludes that Iran had killed the negotiations.

Except the U.S. "killed the negotiations".

Basically your promoting the Iranian view of the JCPOA and sanctions.

False.

I'm stating the actual JCPOA "view of the JCPOA and sanctions" that was signed.

If Iran states the sky is blue, and I state the sky is blue, I'm not "promoting the Iranian view" that the sky is blue.

Curious why you feel the need to distort what I post and construct false Straw Man arguments?