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Texasgal

(17,038 posts)
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 07:58 PM Apr 2012

'I AM concerned with comfort!' Christian Louboutin defends controversial 'heels should be painful'

Just last week he sparked controversy by claiming that those who couldn't take the pain of his heels should not wear them.
But today, as he unveiled an exhibition featuring hundreds of pairs of his sought-after heels at London's Design Museum, Christian Louboutin thought it wise to backpedal slightly.
Louboutin, who began his career more than 20 years ago, hit the headlines when he called high heels 'pleasure with pain', adding, 'If you can't walk in them, don't wear them.'
But at this morning's preview, he defended the remark, saying: 'I am concerned with comfort. I know that it's important but I don't want to have this evoked in my design.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2137417/Christian-Louboutin-exhibition-Design-Museum-London-celebrates-20-years-red-soles.html#ixzz1tZTgDcSQ

I understand shoes but these are ridiculous! Women should not have to feel pain in order to be seen as "sexy" or "beautiful".

Thoughts?

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'I AM concerned with comfort!' Christian Louboutin defends controversial 'heels should be painful' (Original Post) Texasgal Apr 2012 OP
i am trying to stop cussing.... seabeyond Apr 2012 #1
I am astounded that anyone Texasgal Apr 2012 #2
I haven't been able to wear heels for more than a decade... hlthe2b Apr 2012 #3
i admit... i like my 3" ankle boots. they are so pretty. i admire them and show them off seabeyond Apr 2012 #4
Oh hey.. I wear heels too Texasgal Apr 2012 #6
not only that, they are ugly. mine are pretty. lol. ya, designer... meh. what does he matter seabeyond Apr 2012 #7
Right.. and I used to to.. But why? Because I thought they looked good and wanting to look good... hlthe2b Apr 2012 #8
i wholeheartedly agree with your post. seabeyond Apr 2012 #9
I agree.. it's just another Texasgal Apr 2012 #10
Was it Catherine de Medici who popularized high heels on shoes? Wasn't she carried everywhere by Cleita Apr 2012 #5
Nobody expected this... longship Apr 2012 #11
There isn't just one kind of woman... saras Apr 2012 #12
my 14 yr old son says... wow. lol. fun song. nt seabeyond Apr 2012 #13
Must be a Rethug. Dawson Leery Apr 2012 #14
I have no problem with wearing heels but... Little Star May 2012 #15
ya know what gets up my nose? iverglas May 2012 #16
Wearing high heels regularly over a long period of time is almost guaranteed to deform your feet. redqueen May 2012 #17
I wore heels for years. Texasgal May 2012 #24
Well, my thoughts (as a retired shoe freak)... MadrasT May 2012 #18
OMG... you were one of those women, lol seabeyond May 2012 #19
Spent most of my 30's overcompensating MadrasT May 2012 #20
making a very specific statement ... yes, yes, yes seabeyond May 2012 #21
once upon a time ... iverglas May 2012 #22
Not sure about the shoes Texasgal May 2012 #23
Wow. MadrasT May 2012 #25
I remember seeing diagrams like this iverglas May 2012 #26
Wow! Texasgal May 2012 #27
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
1. i am trying to stop cussing....
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:03 PM
Apr 2012

when i saw the shoes pointing straight down.... it came out, just like Tourette syndrome , lol.

Texasgal

(17,038 posts)
2. I am astounded that anyone
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:04 PM
Apr 2012

could put a THING much less a foot in these things and stand up! GOOD GAWD!!!

hlthe2b

(102,119 posts)
3. I haven't been able to wear heels for more than a decade...
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:05 PM
Apr 2012

Young women have no idea the damage they are doing to their feet that will show up eventually. Yet even those women who know better will not only defend them, but laud the practice. Yet another eample of society's expectations and the principle of female objectification--being internalized--to women's detriment, I suppose.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. i admit... i like my 3" ankle boots. they are so pretty. i admire them and show them off
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:07 PM
Apr 2012

whenever i wear them. i wear them a couple times a year for a couple two three hours and i am done.

Texasgal

(17,038 posts)
6. Oh hey.. I wear heels too
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:17 PM
Apr 2012

on occasion. I just cannot imagine that this designer doesn't think they hurt!

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
7. not only that, they are ugly. mine are pretty. lol. ya, designer... meh. what does he matter
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:30 PM
Apr 2012

he thinks he is all that. a man. dismissing women. nothing new,

hlthe2b

(102,119 posts)
8. Right.. and I used to to.. But why? Because I thought they looked good and wanting to look good...
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:38 PM
Apr 2012

was not only expected but we were indoctrinated that even if that comes with pain, that was important.

I'm not trying to lay judgement on any woman who wears them, especially if they try to moderate a bit, given the knowledge they can cause long term harm. Hell, if I hadn't totally destroyed an ankle wearing them-- to the point I had to have a major surgery that stopped just short of fusing the joint--I'd probably still wear them occasionally too. But, if I had a daughter, I would do everything possible to encourage them to go sparingly on the high heels. It just isn't worth it.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
9. i wholeheartedly agree with your post.
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:42 PM
Apr 2012

i didnt know i had a love for these little boots, or any shoes or clothes or accessory or any other girlie thing, until 3 yrs ago when i saw my first pair. something about them turns me on so. i had to buy a black pair. it is so silly and so unlike me. and one of the things i like so much about them is they are comfortable and easy to walk in. plus, they put me almost as tall as hubby. that is so much fun, lol.

if i had any problems though, wouldnt be hard at all not to wear them, either.

Texasgal

(17,038 posts)
10. I agree.. it's just another
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:44 PM
Apr 2012

issue for Women. We must wear heels to look "good".

I hate them myself, but I do wear them occasionally when I feel like I need to dress up. I hate to though. They end up hurting my back!

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
5. Was it Catherine de Medici who popularized high heels on shoes? Wasn't she carried everywhere by
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:12 PM
Apr 2012

servants in a litter? I don't mind heels for dress up, for a few hours, if there is going to be a lot of sitting involved like going to dinner or a wedding. I never wanted to wear high heeled shoes to work and didn't when I could get away with it and I definitely wouldn't wear those monstrosities. They have to be bad for your posture and throwing your skeleton out of alignment.

longship

(40,416 posts)
11. Nobody expected this...
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:52 PM
Apr 2012

Our chief weapons are fear and surprise and ruthless efficiency and a fanatical loyalty to the pope.

Thank you, Monty Python.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
12. There isn't just one kind of woman...
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:13 PM
Apr 2012

My understanding is that women don't have to buy into anything at all about this definition of beauty.
But for those that do...



Little Star

(17,055 posts)
15. I have no problem with wearing heels but...
Tue May 1, 2012, 07:41 AM
May 2012

some of those in the article? Yikes!

There isn't enough money in the world to make me wear some of those.

In the office I worked just about all of us gals wore heels every day. But they were reasonable heels. Must admit even with that I was damn glad to get those things off when I got home!

edit to add: I wonder if women designers design such atrocities? If they do they should have to wear them often! lol Come to think of
it, I'd like to see that male designer wear some of his own "creations".

 

iverglas

(38,549 posts)
16. ya know what gets up my nose?
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:30 AM
May 2012

Shows like Sex in the City where women stomp around on city pavement, go dining and dancing, etc. etc., for hours, in stillettos. Maybe normal women can do that and I'm the oddball, but I just don't think so.

So much for realistic portrayals of women's lives.

I've had much attention paid to my feet with this rehab business from the 7 weeks in a leg cast.

I have bunions. Purely genetic, from my mother from her mother and who knows how far back. I have to keep explaining that I haven't worn heels since I was in my early 20s (and the highest I ever wore were under three inches and sturdy, as was the fashion at the time). I am barefoot most of the time indoors (or in thick socks and slippers in winter), and wear crocs most of the time away from home. Except now -- too worried about instability on thick soles; I'm lucky I once invested in a pair of good, very flat suede lace-up oxford types, as they're perfect for the rehab process.

My feet are extremely flexible. The ortho tech was explaining how one's Achilles tendons shorten with age (one reason my foot was kept flexed so severely inside the cast) and that this is why we see older women in low wedgie shoes rather than flats much of the time. Well, not my Achilles tendons. My good foot still flexes way past 90 degrees (and points like a ballerina, as the physiotherapist remarked).

Why do unnatural things to one's feet that will come home to roost in the form of loss of function and pain in later years?

High heels supposedly make women's calves look "shapely" for the menz. Well, if it's going to be "no pain, no gain" one way or another, get out of the heels and take up some kind of activity that builds up the calf muscles.

Btw, I broke my ankle while wearing perfectly flat loose leather boots. Sprains and metatarsal breaks have been combinations of thick/slightly platform soles and not looking where I was going (stepping on the edges of surfaces). Imagine what I could do in stilettos ...

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
17. Wearing high heels regularly over a long period of time is almost guaranteed to deform your feet.
Tue May 1, 2012, 12:11 PM
May 2012

Seriously, these things should come with warning labels, because a lot of the damage requires corrective surgery and causes long-term pain.

That said, I do love pretty high heeled shoes. I just can't wear them anymore. I wore them regularly in my younger days, and I have minor deformity and pain as a consequence. I still wear them to work regularly, just a lower heel. Why? Because I'm short and it looks more 'professional'... who doesn't want to fit in in an office environment, especially in this economy?

I kick myself about it often. *sigh*

Texasgal

(17,038 posts)
24. I wore heels for years.
Tue May 1, 2012, 08:49 PM
May 2012

Still do, although not as high. I cannot do it anymore. My feet are damaged as well.

I see these young ladies walking around the office's marble floors daily and I am afraid that they are going to fall! I think to myself, I was once young and silly like that too!

Lower heels here too...although I do own a pair of silly hot pink strappy sandals with a sizable heel. I never dance in them though, actually I do nothing much in them at all! LOL!

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
18. Well, my thoughts (as a retired shoe freak)...
Tue May 1, 2012, 12:19 PM
May 2012

Those ballet heels are not meant to be walked in. They are fetish shoes that are specifically meant to immobilize the wearer. (Google "ballet boot" on wikipedia if you are curious.)

At one time I wore high heels and had literally hundreds of pairs.

At some point about 8 years ago it suddenly seemed absolutely absurd to me and I sold my whole collection.

High heels are an old status symbol - a symbol of privilege:

The Greeks viewed shoes as an indulgence—a means of increasing status, though it was a Greek, Aeschylus, who created the first high heel, called korthonos for theatrical purposes. His intent was to “add majesty to the heroes of his plays so that they would stand out from the lesser players and be more easily recognized”


Chopines could add 30(!) inches to a woman’s height, and were quickly adopted by the wealthy as a means of showing status—the higher one’s chopines, the higher one’s place in society. They were so difficult to walk in that women often needed a female servant to help keep them upright, and were ultimately banned for pregnant women as a number of women in Venice suffered miscarriages after falling.


And they are meant to make women more sexually appealing:

In the US, the French heel was popularized in the late 19th-century by a brothel, Madam Kathy’s, where the proprietor noted that business boomed after she employed a French woman who wore high-heels. So she ordered shoes for all of her girls—it seemed the “the leggy look and mobile torso derived from wearing high heels was of considerable interest to patrons,” who then ordered these French heeled shoes for their wives (6).


For example, Rossi notes that high-heels alter the tilt of the pelvis, resulting in more prominence of the buttocks and displaying of the breasts, creating a “come-hither pose” also described by Rossi as the “pouter pigeon” pose, “with lots of breast and tail balanced precariously on a pair of stilts” (12). Smith concedes that we cannot definitely link the wearing of high-heels with sexually selected mating strategies in humans, but suggests that heels are a culturally derived and defined trait that helps women meet an ideal of beauty that may help them attract a mate.


Excerpts are from: Power Confidence and High Heels

These days I wear shoes I can walk comfortably in, that don't harm my feet or force my body into unnatural or come-hither postures.

It hasn't diminished my professional or personal power or business effectiveness one whit.

And I laugh my ass off at women wobbling around on high heels.

I just think they are absolutely absurd.
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
19. OMG... you were one of those women, lol
Tue May 1, 2012, 01:01 PM
May 2012

i say in my best valley girl. that is a hoot the then and now. but i never got the women that had closet full of shoes. the money spent alone turned me off.

that is funny how much you were into it to walk away.

and the rest of your post is interesting too, the history of. why of course, .... brought to us from the prostitute. cue surprise.

i still like my boots...

good post.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
20. Spent most of my 30's overcompensating
Tue May 1, 2012, 01:30 PM
May 2012

for what I thought was a deprived childhood.

I did keep a couple pairs, strictly for costuming purposes. And when I wear them, I am absolutely "in costume", making a very specific statement with my clothing (and shoes).

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
21. making a very specific statement ... yes, yes, yes
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:03 PM
May 2012

" what I thought was a deprived childhood"

that happens. interesting. glad you figured it out. probably will be a life saver in ways. i spent all of my 20's figuring out the fuck ups from youth. what i give all the kids. get it figured out then you can live....

 

iverglas

(38,549 posts)
22. once upon a time ...
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:12 PM
May 2012

About 30 years ago, it was, I was one of the lead organizers of a big international political event that we spent the couple of months leading up to it working on full-throttle, and I lived on coffee and cigarettes and not much sleep for the last couple of weeks. I did lose a little weight ...

At a party a week later for all the people who had worked on it, I made my entrance down the couple of steps into the host's backyard. I had dyed my hair to cover the grey temples and put on lipstick and and mascara, and was wearing one of my floaty vintage dresses and some gold sandals from a thrift shop -- less than two-inch heels, but skinny heels and open toes and all.

Mr. Bigtime Lefty Organizer Lover Boy, whom I'd been working alongside for all that time, happened to be standing right there when I came in. His eyes bugged out and he hastened over to me and uttered words to the effect of how lovely I looked.

Moron, I thought.

That was the statement I was making. He just didn't know it.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
25. Wow.
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:00 PM
May 2012

I'd love to see a cross section of that 2nd pair to see what the shape and form of the insole is. Curious about the position of her foot under all that python mess.

Shoes are fun. I still think shoes are interesting and fun. Looooove my new turquoise cowboy boots.

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