History of Feminism
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i was watching cnn anderson cooper just now. it is talking about the book lean forward. in the book there was a study a couple decades ago and cooper had the study done at the university in new york with a business class.
that in itself was interesting. but, they had the students talk after about the study and one of the young men said that he is threatened about a "hot chick" applying for a job and getting it cause she is a hot chick. another young woman was talking and said
hot chick? you mean, beautiful woman.
it was as natural as the next breathe for this very young college student to call it out.
yea... younger generation.
and she got no lip from the class room.
ismnotwasm
(41,916 posts)I work around lots of young women. The ones I know would put up with very little shit. I don't show them DU because its fucking embarrassing, along the lines of 'Ew why even try to talk to that useless asshole" at least in many gender related threads and all threads about rape.
I check certain things with them on a regular basis. It helps to have regular feedback, from those less politically inclined, but raised around the victories of feminism. And several of them do self identify as feminist. And they're so matter of fact about topical matters; porn is objectifying, harmful to sexuality and not erotic, rape and sexual harassment are huge problem, etc. it's not an argument with them it's simply facts.
niyad
(112,424 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)would be appalled at some of the awful shit we hear here against women and and gays and transgender. Her group includes young men and they are Nothing like the old throwbacks that can't get over that women aren't furniture any more. They are respectful of each other and look after each other like brothers and sisters.
There is hope but the struggle continues.
BainsBane
(53,001 posts)thanks for sharing.
redqueen
(115,096 posts)Where I live (small, rural, very red and religious town), it is the opposite. My daughters' peers (boys and girls) are more of the 'feminists have gone too far' sort (sad that we have those types here huh?)
ismnotwasm
(41,916 posts)I need to remember it tends to be progressive. If I went to Eastern Washington, I might hear a different story. Also, these are well educated young women, who have had the luxury of forming a well-thought out opinion. Not everyone gets that either. So, many of them come from entitled backgrounds. I kind of broke my own rule about keeping entitlement in mind in regard to feminist opinion. Especially my own.
I like to read feminist blogs though, and it seems to me it's happening everywhere.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)men have publicly embraced. we cannot get away from it. not to mention the abuses to down right threatening. IN OUR FACE. 24/7.
a woman would have to work really hard to deny or repress the reality of our today.
at the point of hearing that a gyno put a fuckin camera in his pen to take pictures of his patients to put it on the net should have created absolute total outrage across the nation. instead the story sank.
one man, right? wrong. over time we see, where there is one, there are more.
a doctor.
a doctor that women MUST trust in order to fuckin LIVE. a doctor that abuses the patients and puts women on porn sites.
these are pictures men are jacking off too.
they sit here and say how willing the women are. yet fuckin hundred of thousands of women forced or unaware. that men use to get off on.
and not a peep. not a thought. not a consideration.
for a gyno to get caught doing this says it fuckin all.
ismnotwasm
(41,916 posts)Say women who are privileged and outwardly content but internally frightened, or women who are conservative as well as real or pseudo-aggressive-- the type to wear a specially made bra using a specially made gun with the belief that guns are the answer to sexual violence or home invasion, or women who are conflicted, still see women as 'sluts' and 'asking for it'. Women play blame the vivid as well and consider it 'common sense' --- these women turn their head and work very hard not to see what is happening
And some women have a Stockholm syndrome type of response. They're not free, but hey think they are.
And some women are misogynists of the first order, although it seems to me that is an expression of self hate.
And some women are mean-spirited
You'd think it'd be clear enough, obvious enough, but it, apparently, is not.