History of Feminism
Related: About this forumadam was created from the rib of eve....
since all fetus begin as female, wouldnt that mean that the rib was pulled from eve, and not adam?
just askin'
edit: a joke. i am just kidding. a random thought. generally, i learn to keep my mouth shut.
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BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)says that in her loneliness, Copper Woman created a companion gathered from the mucous of her sorrow. They created the First man with their Daughter who taught about relationships.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)it had to be snot? i found the story. thanks
http://www.rahoorkhuit.net/goddess/goddess_quest/copper_women.html
Alone she found shelter alone she found food. She endured. Endured and survived. In the time of the first autumn storms, the Creator sent a craft of Supernaturals to teach Copper Woman how to survive on a better level than she had been able to find for herself. She was no longer alone. When it was time for the Supernaturals to go in their craft and prepare to return to their own home, Copper Woman began to weep. So much did she cry, her very head began to drain of all fluid, and as tears fell from her eyes, from her nose fell great amounts of thick mucus.
The supernatural women told her not to feel shame, not to bury the snot but to save it, even cherish it, and when she had learned to accept even this most gross evidence of her own mortality, then from the acceptance would come the means whereby she would never again be alone, never again be lonely. They told her that those times when body secretions flow, those times when a woman answers the call of the moon, are holy and sacred times, times for prayer and contemplation.
Copper women did as she was told. A few days later she noticed that the sand in the shell was moving every day she watched and became aware that the small living incomplete thing was growing into something. Soon his voice became deep and he roared with jealousy when Copper Woman spent too much time admiring something else.
One night the snot boy left his bed of fur and climbed in bed with Copper Woman.
With much pain and blood, there came from her a small version of herself, but altered. Copper woman looked at her daughter and felt the loneliness diminish until it was no larger than a small round pebble on the beach.
The kingdom of the Heavens was ruled by thunderbird. Thunderbird ruled with his wife Qolus. Qolus spent much time watching Copper women and her children. Especially Mowita, the oldest, the first born. Qolus wanted to leave the kingdom of the heavens and go to earth. So she changed her form. So completely did she change form she became the first man. He set about building a great house, greater then on earth to impress the Copper women and her daughter. Thunderbird in time became lonely and began to weep. The eldest daughter and her husband set about waterproofing the house. Copper women said she did not have to go into the house, which was getting very crowded; she would be safe with her magic. It was Time, she said, for her skin to split anyway, time for her to allow her children to go off on their own so that they would not stay tied to her forever. So she left her bag of meat and bones on the beach and went to visit with her friends the supernaturals.
For days the house floated. Raven was sent out and she brought back the promise of life, a sprig of cedar. The animals ran out side happily, then the daughters of Copper Woman prepared to leave. Four couples going off in four different directions, and from them came all the people of the world. From the survivors of the flood came the parents of black people, the parents of the yellow people, the parents of the white people and the parents of the brown-skinned people, and so we are all related, for we all come from the belly of copper Woman.
When old women was so old even she could not remember how old, she became old woman.
Always the truth will be sustained and the secrets will endure, for Old Woman is watching, Old Woman is guarding, and with her all things are possible. And always the disciples will aid the Old Woman and give her strength, the initiates will aid the disciples and the woman will protect their Truth, glory in it and Endure.
And though all this happened so long ago nobody can say when, still there are women who Know, and whether they are women who come from the lines of the black people, or from the lines of the brown people, or the yellow people or the white people, or whether they are of the line of happiness, still they may Know. and still, many are born but few are chosen. And still those who come with green eyes are held in esteem. Some are born, some come in search, and if they Know they are welcomed, so that within the Women's society neither wealth nor social position counts, for these are imposed on earth by chance and whim, while within the society only that which grows from the core has any meaning.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)Of course women are stronger,they are made of a hard rib ,but men are from dust.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)
Bryn
(3,621 posts)says Barbara Walker in one of her books "Restoring the Goddess"
Barbara Walker, a scholar, wrote in one of her books how she started doing the research on the bible archaeology/mythology:
"...then, craziest of all, there was the story of a unique male childbirth (Gen. 2:21-22) that made Eve the daughter of Adam, and their union, therefore, an incestuous one. I found out only years later that the Adam's rib story was concocted especially to give man primacy over woman, but the biblical version wasn't original. It was copied from a much older Babylonian myth of the Goddess Nin-Ti, "Lady of the Rib," who invented childbirth by allowing woman to form their babies' bones in utero out of their own maternal ribs."
"Patriarchal Adam himself was a transformation of an earlier female principle of birth giving, Adamah, meaning "bloody clay," which male scholars more delicately translated "red earth" to disguise its original implications...."
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Bryn
(3,621 posts)LOL
Many things in there never made sense to me. Ancient Goddess mythology does. Men must have worked really, really hard to cover up, twisting things around. Time for us women to come out and say "we're not stupid, you naughty boys!"
Also read a book by Merlin Stone: When God Was a Woman
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Merlin Stone 1931 – 2011
“For people raised and programmed on the patriarchal religions of today, religions that affect even the most secular aspects of our society, perhaps there remains a lingering, almost innate memory of sacred shrines and temples tended by priestesses who served in the religion of the original supreme deity. In the beginning, people prayed to the Creatress of Life, the Mistress of Heaven. At the very dawn of religion, God was a woman. Do you remember?” – Merlin Stone
“I think we should have a huge global memorial to Merlin. She was the first one who gave us back our historical heritage as women. Her research was diligent, “When God was a Woman” changed my life.” - Zsuzsanna Budapest
“As a Woman of the Goddess, and Devotee of Higher Learning, Merlin Stone’s work sparked a Depth of Integrity that spoke volumes of a Rich, untapped goldmine of Herstorical perspectives within Conventional University environments early on in my studies; her work marked a trail-blazing path toward a place where intellect and mysticism found a comfortable home within the *Thea* logical Realms of Scholarly imagination.” – Rosmarinus Stehlik
“It was a revelation to me, the idea that the Bible still contained the remnants of the goddess. I felt that cool water was rushing over me. For the first time in my life, I felt that there was an open door for me to approach a “god” who looked like me, whose accessibility wasn’t confined to the men in the congregation. [...] Thanks, Merlin Stone, for breaking me out of my American Christian blinders.” – Anonymous respondent, The Daily Dish, December, 2010
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)really exceptional as well.
Scout
(8,624 posts)
hlthe2b
(102,141 posts)Has a prized area of my bookshelf. I think I'm on my third copy, though since I frequently loan it out and somehow never see it back. I figure it's my good deed to send it out there.
BlueIris
(29,135 posts)I will have to look for her book.
iverglas
(38,549 posts)It's what I'd thought from the time I could think, it seemed so obvious: first amoebas, then fish and frogs, then cats and dogs, then man ... then woman. The progression is apparent! Then finally somebody made it into a bumper sticker. 