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ismnotwasm

(41,968 posts)
Sat May 4, 2013, 10:31 PM May 2013

Feministing Chat: Kitty Pryde takes on rape culture and Danny Brown’s on-stage blow job

(This is an excellent analysis I thought, it links to the original article by Kitty Pryde. I've excepted a couple of salient points. For those who don't know, this young man, a rapper, was sexually assaulted on stage by a female fan, who yanked down his pants and began performing fellatio on him. The young man was conflicted, to say the least, and didn't quite know what to do. The entire situation brings up questions about the cult of masculinity and rape culture from a different direction.)

Alexandra: Exactly. But one problem I had with Kitty’s analysis was where she located the source of this oppressive power. Obviously a woman was in the wrong here, but it seemed like she’s arguing that ladies have some sort of privilege–to fight back, to claim victimhood–like a ‘reverse sexism.’ Men, as we were saying, are hurt by gendered expectations, and often in different ways than women are–but it’s the same sexism, the same patriarchy that constrains everyone. We can acknowledge men’s unique problems within this system without pretending the scripts are flipped and women are rolling in power now.
After all, part of the reason we have so much trouble imagining a woman assaulting a man is that we can’t break the assumption that masculinity equals aggression and power while femininity equals passivity and weakness. It’s not a woman’s privilege that allows her to get away with terrible violence like this, but that we can’t conceive of her holding any power at all.

Maya: True, well said. Permission to be seen as a victim–”to at least attempt to kick the shit out of you”–is super important, particularly if you don’t have it. And, as we’ve said, it’s not just male survivors who often don’t. Think of the New Jersey Four, CeCe McDonald, Marissa Alexander, and all the women of color in prison for acting in self-defense against domestic and sexual violence. (I mean, it’s really only the “small white girls” like Kitty who even have that permission–and then only if you’re not drunk or wearing a slutty outfit. Oh, and being a virgin would help.) But that permission is not actual power, and it’s also not going to fundamentally change a culture in which people think it’s ok to do things to other people’s bodies without their consent. Although I feel like Kitty would probably agree with that? I dunno, it seems like she gets it.


Alexandra: That’s fair, but I think without an explicit acknowledgement of that we risk providing MRA fuel–though yes, she definitely recognizes that the nuance of the power dynamics at play. And the races of Danny and his assailant, of course, add a whole other dimension. By Kitty’s account, the girl was white. White women are stereotyped as innocent, and black men as sexually voracious, so the assault doesn’t fit any of the predetermined narratives to which we, as a society, are so deeply committed.

Maya: Yes, I think this is key–especially, as Kitty points out, in terms of constraining Danny’s options for reacting during the assault. “Guys pushing girls is not a good look when people are taking photos,” but especially black men pushing white girls. And the fact that as a black man, Brown is automatically considered hypersexualized is only compounded by the fact that he is also a dude in hip hop, and one who has a very sexualized persona and lyrics. (I’m not super familiar with his work, but Lori tells me that he’s got a rebel rockstar kind of sex appeal that is very sexual but doesn’t necessarily adhere to traditional ideas of masculinity–which sounds pretty awesome and I will be checking out asap.) So those are a few strikes against him right there.


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Feministing Chat: Kitty Pryde takes on rape culture and Danny Brown’s on-stage blow job (Original Post) ismnotwasm May 2013 OP
Yes to all of this. And hell yes to Kitty Pryde for starting this conversation. redqueen May 2013 #1
That I didn't even open ismnotwasm May 2013 #2
Oh, you know it. redqueen May 2013 #3

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
1. Yes to all of this. And hell yes to Kitty Pryde for starting this conversation.
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:50 AM
May 2013

Thanks for posting this. I wish it had been available to share when this incident was discussed in GD.

ismnotwasm

(41,968 posts)
2. That I didn't even open
Sun May 5, 2013, 12:20 PM
May 2013

Last edited Sun May 5, 2013, 12:50 PM - Edit history (1)

As I was sure it was deniel of rape culture, a simplistic presentation and general shit stirring.

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