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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
Fri May 11, 2012, 10:48 AM May 2012

Can it ever be socially acceptable to have hairy armpits?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2139473/Emer-OToole-This-Morning-Can-EVER-socially-acceptable-hairy-armpits.html

Like it or not, there are few sights more arresting than a woman with a hairy armpit. The unfettered growth of female underarm and leg hair is considered one of the ultimate social taboos, dismissed as the kind of eccentric behaviour that should only adopted by hippies.

But while as a society we are used to removing all our body hair, one woman has decided to challenge the notion that women must be hair-free to be happy.

Graduate student Emer O'Toole from Dublin decided to stop shaving for good 18 months ago when she came to the conclusion that too much pressure is put upon women to conform to what she calls 'artificial gender norms'.

Appearing on This Morning to debate the prickly subject, Ms O'Toole admitted that she started shaving at the age of 14, simply because it was expected of her. But now she hopes to challenge -and change - such expectations.

(more at link)




It's odd that body hair is such an issue for women. It's interesting to me that she says most of the policing is done by other women.
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no_hypocrisy

(46,020 posts)
1. Non-metropolitan areas of France, Italy, Germany don't have strict standards on armpit shaving.
Fri May 11, 2012, 10:58 AM
May 2012

It's conventional to have furry airpits, no big deal.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
3. Yeah, there seem to be some areas where it's no big deal,
Fri May 11, 2012, 11:05 AM
May 2012

and others where it's so strangely taboo.

It's just bizarre.

rurallib

(62,379 posts)
2. I love body hair on women
Fri May 11, 2012, 11:00 AM
May 2012

and wish Ms. O'Toole the best in her quest quest to change the norm of shaving.
I remember reading that getting women to shave was basically a promotion by King Gillette to sell more razors.

yesphan

(1,587 posts)
4. I went to Moscow in the early '90s
Fri May 11, 2012, 11:10 AM
May 2012

I noted that the women there did shave their armpits, but not their legs. Didn't bother me one little bit.
Just looked a little odd, a woman wearing hose with mats of hair under.

rox63

(9,464 posts)
7. I've seen some European women who don't shave
Fri May 11, 2012, 11:50 AM
May 2012

It was a while ago, so I'm not sure if that if that is still common or not.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
8. Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:16 PM
May 2012

Yearning to be compelled to look and do like everybody else.

Is that why millions came here and millions more worked to build. A place where everyone has a right to expect everyone else to be just like them? Can't let no woman forget to shave the appropriate parts nor allow a man to mix up which parts to shave/leave. Can't have none of the Individualism. Must be exactly like everyone else.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
10. Well that show is Irish,
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:33 PM
May 2012

so we know the inflexibility is here and in Ireland, and in Australia I have learned from other discussions about this. I bet its probably the same in the UK. I wonder about Canada. And Mexico.

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
9. I shave my pits during the summer, and I'm a guy
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:20 PM
May 2012

Never understood how people get all weird about female armpit hair

no_hypocrisy

(46,020 posts)
11. Gilette Razors
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:54 PM
May 2012

I read in a book about the history of hygiene and sanitation that the Gilette Razor Company came up with the idea of women shaving their underarms and legs to double their sales. The company had come up with a lightweight straight-edge razor with disposable blades and they looked beyond five o'clock shadows on men.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
12. Makes me think of all the claims about how what appears in advertising and media
Fri May 11, 2012, 01:11 PM
May 2012

couldn't possibly have any effect on anything. It's all just fantasy and only weak minded people could ever be affected by it.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
13. and then we get older. and cant see. so the hair under the arms, and eyebrows
Sun May 13, 2012, 10:08 AM
May 2012

are no longer a problem, lol.

it is a matter of memory telling me to pluck eyebrows. 6 months i am sure they need it. and there is this wedding, lol. i am going all out and that means plucky those eyebrows.... oooops. forgot. so between memory and not being able to see, it is what it is.

i like women challenging these norms. am all for it. i prefer shaved legs. i like the feel and look. but i am all for any woman that ignores expectation.

BlueIris

(29,135 posts)
14. Most women in my neck of the woods don't do it.
Sun May 13, 2012, 05:11 PM
May 2012

Primarily because of razor-irritation issues. Yes, many are "hippies." Some aren't.

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