Does this screed about the need for feminism look familiar to anyone?

[redqueen]

Feminism needs domestic violence

…therefore feminism perpetuates domestic violence. Feminism also invents fake domestic violence. This gives Feminism an excuse to exist.

It has been many years since feminists have fought for anything remotely resembling equality between the sexes. I know most ordinary feminists still think equality is the name of the game, but they are mistaken. All anyone has to do in order to see this, is look at what feminist policy makers, movers and shakers, and intellectual leaders (and I use that term rather loosely) have actually accomplished during the last two or three decades. No equality there. None.

This article is a very basic introduction to a single concept that most people will instantly reject on a visceral level: That feminist policies breed Domestic Violence while pretending to prevent it. I’m not going to quote lots of statistics and studies, or variables and technicalities. I will however, state that the Duluth Model* of domestic violence, on which virtually all DV policy and “education” is based, has been thoroughly debunked – it represents as common, the very least common type of Intimate Partner Violence (brutal male/innocent female.)**

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http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/domestic-violence-industry/feminism-needs-domestic-violence/

[zazen]

1. I hope no woman was unfortunate enough to have been married to this asshole

We can hope he's just one of those poor "nice guys" whose been rejected by women all of his pathetic life.

[Sekhmets Daughter]

2. Should it, however, be totally rejected out of hand?

I ask, not because I accept his premise that DV exists because feminists want it to...but rather because I think there may be some truth to the idea that DV is not always the brutal male beats innocent female. I had an aunt who was physically abusive toward my uncle. My own mother was likely to throw things, heavy things, at my father's head. He never retaliated.

[redqueen]

3. Nobody thinks there are no abusive women.

That is, however, the disingenuous hook for this particular brand of bullshit propaganda - which is that women are responsible for 'the majority of violence'.

[Sekhmets Daughter]

7. Yes, it is extreme and useless BS

But I'm not altogether certain there shouldn't be something out there for men who are the victims. You may be more familiar with the availability of that type of assistance for men as you are much more informed than I.

If the end goal of feminism is equality, then VAWA defeats that purpose by establishing primacy. I think, perhaps, this particular fool, the author, understands that at some level...,but has done a really poor job of thinking the matter through and presenting the case in a rational manner.

I found this http://jezebel.com/5509717/domestic-violence-are-women-as-abusive-as-men

I particularly agree with the conclusion:

Domestic violence is a crime, not a political football, and we should be working together to stamp it out, not allowing it to divide us.

[redqueen]

9. If you read the other article I posted, the one not written by an evil propagandist,

you'll see that it's MRAs and their handmaidens (like this woman) who are using this issue as a political football.

The fact is that there are actual advocates for male victims of female abuse. But these types don't care. Their only concern is rolling back and dismantling the progress that feminists have made.

Another fact is that most male victims of violence are victims of other males. Male violence against women is a pandemic. Male violence in general should be their focus, if they truly cared about men's well being.

But they don't. They simply hate feminists and the fact that men are losing their privileged status.

[Sekhmets Daughter]

11. Thanks...

I'll read that next.

[bravenak]

5. You gotta read the full article.

I gets stupider than this excerpt. And quite strange since there is no data to back up the article.

[Sekhmets Daughter]

6. I did read the full article.

It is one man's point of view...but I think representative of the attitude many men. I rarely think there is no grain of truth in an opinion....Only politicians can routinely talk without telling a single truth.

[bravenak]

8. Think the author is a woman, yo. If you read it you know that, though. Makes it even dumber.

It is presented as fact, with percentages and everything.
It's not one persons pov.
It's silly ass talking points about women being far more abusive than men.
And feminism causing DV.
It's fuggin idiotic.
No links to sources or anything. All about blaming the ladies for this domestic violence epidemic.

[Sekhmets Daughter]

10. There will always be women who seek male approval

by speaking for them. In that regard, it is certainly dumber. There is, of course, the issue that the anti-feminists need something to rail against in order to validate their own existence.

I am old enough to know, to have witnessed enough domestic violence carried out on the sidewalks of Brooklyn, NY, that this is not a new epidemic. It is simply more publicized....some of that due to laws enacted over the past 20 years or so.

[LanternWaste]

16. What specifically leads you to that premise?

"I rarely think there is no grain of truth in an opinion..."

What specifically leads you to that premise?

[Sekhmets Daughter]

17. It is a woman writing, and I think she has heard some of this from at least one man...

Not that feminism requires or encourages DV but that there are not as many resources for men to fall back on when they are the victims of DV or accused of DV.

I have difficulty in seeing things in absolutist terms. What may not be Truth (with a capital T) to most, is still truth to some.

[bravenak]

4. I'm getting this vibe that there is something going on.

That some men are unhappy with there being laws enforced to protect women. Like its harmful to men or something. I have no idea where the author got her figures from.
I'd like to see the data that shows that over half of abusers are women.
This is a scary time for women. I'm watching a rollback of our rights and protections.

[redqueen]

12. Yep. The backlash is really ramping up.

Of course we all see the GOP's highly visible War on Women.

This one is being carried out in the background.

I think both are a result of more people calling out rape culture and male privilege.

[bravenak]

13. Then I guess it's time for the ladies to ramp up our demands for equality.

My husband was laughing reading the article.
Especially the 80 percent figure.
We live in anchorage in a low income neighborhood. We have had to run guy off in our alley for betting up ladies. We have yet to save a dude from a lady.

[redqueen]

14. It's starting, but there's a lot of catching up to do.

One of the domestic violence advocates quoted in the other article thinks there's no reason to worry. Because she expects people to see through noxious shit like this.

Sadly that is not the case.

[ismnotwasm]

15. I haven't read this one

But I've been reading a lot of anti-feminist material, and this it typical of it. (I always operate on knowing the 'other' side in polarized feminist issues. This includes pornography, the lives of sex workers, sex work itself, interpretation of rape statistics etc, papers on evolutionary psychology etc.)

This is Shit-stirring bullshit. It's simply looking for attention and is bloody ridiculous . The comments are hilarious, in a Stevan King kind of horror way--DV is not funny.

RedQueen is right; there is an enormous backlash happening with young women self identifying as feminist and getting involved. Interestingly, although its happening slowly in the US, it's the UK and Australia and other places where the backlash is gaining ground. Young women are pissed.

As far the the articles analysis of IPV, people who work in the domestic violence field would beg to differ. For those concerned about the violence committed toward men, I have this to say; the majority of violence against men is from men. Lets address why that is.

What this reminds me of is the hey day of Anita Byrant and her opposition to Gay rights and the ERA. Same bullshit logic. Same type of lies.


And yes, unfortunately it's familiar.

[geek tragedy]

18. This bullshit gets promoted, in slightly subtler form, by some women

in the field of social work and provision of care for battered women.

E.g., the noxious faux-feminist Linda Mills , coiner of the phrase "domestic violence industry."