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boston bean

(36,219 posts)
Sat May 18, 2013, 12:18 PM May 2013

Posted this in GD, thought you all would enjoy this as well..



Traditional greeting of people really pissed off you don't agree with them...

I see this ALL OF THE TIME. It gets trotted out the second someone with privilege feels you are not being appropriately deferential to their opinions. It takes remarkably little to spur this accusation because it comes from people who feel remarkably entitled to get their way and see any impediment as an act of oppression and totalitarianism.

What really sucks for them is that sometimes they are right. And so what?

So what if people just want to talk to people who agree with them? So what if people want to talk about their beliefs with those they can gain emotional and intellectual support from? How is that the greatest crime ever visited upon someone? What these people are really saying is “So, I guess you don’t want to put up with my constant derailment, auditing of your beliefs, and demands that you justify your existence!”

No one has any obligation to make social justice easier for you. No one has any obligation to hold your hand. And especially no one has any obligation to suffer constant nitpicking and recriminations from people who love accusing others of acting in bad faith almost as much as they love acting in bad faith themselves.


Read the rest here... good read!

http://red3blog.tumblr.com/post/50525262754/i-see-this-all-of-the-time-it-gets-trotted-out?utm_source=feedly

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Posted this in GD, thought you all would enjoy this as well.. (Original Post) boston bean May 2013 OP
Heh! ismnotwasm May 2013 #1
The funny thing is, there is no way you're going to say this unless you're objecting to the Squinch May 2013 #2
I think the greater issue is that disagreement GeoWilliam750 May 2013 #3
Heh. That GD thread has 74 replies listed, and yet I can see only 16 Sheldon Cooper May 2013 #4

ismnotwasm

(41,967 posts)
1. Heh!
Sat May 18, 2013, 07:18 PM
May 2013

Having spent the last couple of days with a group of strong willed people with differing opinions, I have to while its more comfortable to talk with people who agree with you, it isn't nearly as much fun as hashing things out with reasonable people and a common goal.

On-line, it's so much harder. No I don't want to talk with people who have, I don't know, a small gendered box they put their brain in. No room for new input, and no true reference of understanding---No desire to have one either.

Squinch

(50,916 posts)
2. The funny thing is, there is no way you're going to say this unless you're objecting to the
Sat May 18, 2013, 07:58 PM
May 2013

fact that someone is strongly disagreeing with you.

So it's necessarily a projection.

Neener neener!

GeoWilliam750

(2,521 posts)
3. I think the greater issue is that disagreement
Sun May 19, 2013, 05:38 AM
May 2013

Is most commonly perceived as an attempt by somebody else to assert social dominance.

Still, even when one knows that disagreement is not an attempt at dominance, but a search for truth, it is not always easy to switch off a million years of biology just because one is wrong.

I struggle daily with this, as well.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
4. Heh. That GD thread has 74 replies listed, and yet I can see only 16
Sun May 19, 2013, 03:20 PM
May 2013

separate DUers responding. Guess my Ignore list is working.

Anyway, to answer the question: there are some areas where I definitely have no interest in listening to someone who doesn't agree with me. Those issues are mostly related to women and women's rights, including reproductive freedom. There is nothing that anyone can say that could possibly change my mind on these issues, so why bother attending to them? At my age, I've heard everything, and I have no time to waste on the same old same old.

If people don't like it, tough shit.

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