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ismnotwasm

(41,974 posts)
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:59 AM Aug 2013

Why #SolidarityisforWhiteWomen Is So Important

Last edited Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:10 PM - Edit history (1)

(I don't know how many are aware of this hashtag, or the history behind it, but i thought I should post something here)

Right now on Twitter a well-known Black woman blogger @Karnythia has started a trend online with the hashtag #SolidarityisforWhiteWomen. I have seen related tweets coming from publications such as Al Jazeera and Colorlines.

Of course, there are the people who automatically jump to the conclusion that #Solidarity is about hating on White women who want equality for ~*everybody*~, and that people of color participating in the tag are just race-baiting. That’s a given. And I’m sure most of said people are not actually reading the hashtag, they are just responding to the name. For those who aren’t aware, it should feel like a punch to the gut. I promise you that being excluded from the mainstream feminist movement feels much worse.

To be clear though, this hashtag is about holding “allies” accountable. It should be self-explanatory! For too long, White, straight, cis, able-bodied women have been the face of feminism.




Read #SolidarityisforWhiteWomen to understand what marginalised people are trying to say. Feminism is supposed to be for people marginalized by patriarchy, but so far it only uplifts the women pictured above.

Here are some gems from #Solidarity


More:

http://andthenkeirsaid.com/2013/08/12/why-solidarityisforwhitewomen-is-so-important/
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Why #SolidarityisforWhiteWomen Is So Important (Original Post) ismnotwasm Aug 2013 OP
I agree that this is very important. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #1
My niece and I were talking about this the other day Arcanetrance Aug 2013 #2
Which proves the point of the twitter movement I think ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #3
I'm trying to get her to sign up here and maybe be able to talk to some of the women who post in Arcanetrance Aug 2013 #4
Sure ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #7
I'm ashamed to admit I was guilty of thinking that. CrispyQ Aug 2013 #13
Thank You for making this post … 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #5
Nice!-- My favorite and why these discussions are not well-received ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #6
Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #8
Oh look, it's Inna Shevchenko redqueen Aug 2013 #9
Oooh JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #10
Heh.... redqueen Aug 2013 #11
Goddam!!! ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #12
Thousands stage rival rallies in Tunisia ahead of Westerwelle visit ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #14
No, this can't be Inna, this woman is wearing a top. kwassa Aug 2013 #15

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
1. I agree that this is very important.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 12:17 PM
Aug 2013

Many of the early feminist pioneers had access to money, which gave them the freedom to do the important work that they did. WOC were too busy working just to survive, so they didn't have as much time. So the main feminist think tanks were composed of white women with access to money, and naturally, their biggest concerns were the first ones addressed.

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
2. My niece and I were talking about this the other day
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 12:18 PM
Aug 2013

She was saying that when you look at thing for feminism it still seems to be geared toward a socially acceptable group of women. Basically white women with what society deems proper fat ratio and bone structure the whole nine. She said came away feeling like main stream feminism isn't for her.

ismnotwasm

(41,974 posts)
3. Which proves the point of the twitter movement I think
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 12:50 PM
Aug 2013

There used to be, in feminism, something called "Standpoint theory" -- an ill-advised philosophy that basically said the experience of being female was the same for everyone (that's simplifying it, but close enough)

What. A. Crock.

There are many different ways to experiences, and the privileged experiences of middle-class heterosexual whiteness does NOT speak for all women. Or all people.

I'd rather face an uncomfortable truth than live a self-righteous lie.

I hope your niece finds a fit in Feminism, and I invite her to 'The One Billion Rising' movement; it's a world- wide protest against violence against women. You hear voices from many cultures and from all over the world.

http://www.onebillionrising.org/

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
4. I'm trying to get her to sign up here and maybe be able to talk to some of the women who post in
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:06 PM
Aug 2013

this group. Cause while I support feminist issues as a male I'm very limited in what I can help with. Sadly tho in this family I seem to be the only one she can talk to as the other women are kinda anti feminist.

ismnotwasm

(41,974 posts)
7. Sure
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:09 PM
Aug 2013

And If she likes politics DU, while not feminist per se, is an open door to many faces of feminism. (As well as those with anti-feminist thought; but those are not the point) I've found lots of good stuff and links and blogs from posters here.

CrispyQ

(36,445 posts)
13. I'm ashamed to admit I was guilty of thinking that.
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 11:56 AM
Aug 2013

"the experience of being female was the same for everyone"

It wasn't until I read on the fem forums at DU that I woke up. Then, when I started taking the bus again, I really noticed it. I get more deferential treatment that WOC, even if it's as simple as the empty seat next to me will be the last one taken. Like my personal space is more privileged because I'm white. Class probably has something to do with it, too, but that is also kind of linked to race, as I've had more opportunity throughout my life & my mother & grandmother, too.

Justice. We would be better creatures if we worked to achieve it.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
5. Thank You for making this post …
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 09:39 PM
Aug 2013

Very interesting; but I doubt it will be well received on DU, outside of HoF … too many truths.

But that said, clicking on stuff at the site led me to this:

http://blackgirldangerous.org/new-blog/2013/6/17/8-ways-not-to-be-an-ally

Great stuff!

ismnotwasm

(41,974 posts)
6. Nice!-- My favorite and why these discussions are not well-received
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:05 PM
Aug 2013
2. Make every thing about your feelings

The hurt feelings that resulted when you were called out on racism/transphobia/ableism/etc. are totally more important than the impact of the actions you are being called out for in the first place. Really. I'm not even being facetious. Psych! I mean, I know it feels like your feelings are Consideration #1, but they're not. I have been guilty of this ridiculousness myself in the past. I think everybody is guilty of it sometimes. But that still doesn't make it okay. Try to remember that people who have been impacted by your racist/transphobic/ableist/etc. words or actions are the ones whose feelings need attention right then. Not yours.


 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
8. Yep ...
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:23 PM
Aug 2013

I liked that and it is totally appropriate for my white liberal experience ... But I really couldn't pick a favorite. I kinda like 2, 4, 5, 6, 7 and in light of the recent "Quote a Black Guy to Attack a Black Guy"posts here, I really like #8.

JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
10. Oooh
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 11:03 AM
Aug 2013
I'll try looking on my smartphone in a little bit - blocked on this connection from twitter. But your 'voice' has been greatly missed.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
11. Heh....
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 11:18 AM
Aug 2013


It's true though. This white liberal feminist shit needs to be called out, and I'm damn glad that Hugo is getting called out too.

ismnotwasm

(41,974 posts)
14. Thousands stage rival rallies in Tunisia ahead of Westerwelle visit
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 12:01 PM
Aug 2013
Two competing demonstrations were held in Tunisia's capital Tunis on Tuesday to mark the 57th anniversary of landmark women's rights legislation.
Anti-government parties said tens of thousands of people took part in a march from central Tunis to parliament buildings in the suburb of Bardo. Mainly female secularist protesters chanted slogans for women's rights and against the moderate Islamist Ennahda party.
"Tunisian women today are telling the Islamists 'Get out, we want a modern government,'" one protester named Sonia told news agency Reuters.

Many in Tunisia fear that religious radicals are gaining too much influence over the country's political discourse. The governing Ennahda party, however, has to find a way to appeal to both secularists and Islamists. (10.08.2013)
A few kilometres away a pro-government demonstration drew a smaller crowd, although thousands were reported to have taken part. Government supporters gathered in the capital's central Habib Bourguiba Avenue, the epicenter of the 2011 revolt that overthrew veteran strongman Zine El Abidine Ben Ali.
"The Tunisian woman is with elections and against the toppling of the government," read a sign waved by one Ennahda supporter.
Women's Day commemorates the enactment of a series of laws passed in 1956 which banned polygamy and gave women rights to equal pay and education. Known as the Personal Status Code, the laws were the most socially progressive in the Arab world.


So, thousands of women-- protest with their clothes ON, imagine that.
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