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ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 08:32 AM Nov 2013

You know what? fuck it

I changed my mind. Although I am extremely disappointed in administrations decision to allow anti-choice opinions here, I still find myself checking in every day. I'm going on ten years in this place, and I still like a lot of it.

So let me start with this article. Apropos to my situation I think

Lucy Mangan: why feminism doesn't need rebranding


When I watch children play – as I unfortunately have to do more and more often these days, as my son, unlike his parents, persists in gaining motor skills and developing social instincts – I am always struck by the same thing. While little boys tend to get on and just play, little girls seem unable to move until they have established all the rules, mapped out all the possibilities and defined everyone's role precisely. I don't know if it's social conditioning (but, if so, it's clearly of an intensity and potency that Kim Jong-un himself would envy), some strange quirk in the female psyche or DNA, or an unholy combination of the two that causes it, but I'm increasingly convinced that women remain hamstrung all our lives by our readiness to dicker about at the edges of things instead of jumping in and getting something started.

This week, for instance, I – along with many other people – have been invited to attend a debate about rebranding feminism. "Rebranding" – like all forms of marketing – is the ultimate in dickering about at the edges. It's so much easier than actually creating something whose worth people will come to recognise and start buying – or buying into it, in the case of intangible sociopolitical movements – as a natural result of its proven efficacy.

Feminism doesn't need rebranding. It just needs to overcome the people-pleasing instincts of its majority members and focus on a few core issues, and then beat the shit out of everything and everyone in its way until those issues are satisfactorily resolved. And, yes, ideally those core issues would be decided by a global referendum of women, so that the agenda isn't set primarily by those (generally white, middle class) who are already fortunate enough to have the time and energy to spare for organising social change. But until that becomes a practical possibility, everyone just needs to keep at the forefront of their minds the fact that "check your privilege" and "intersectionality" are revolting words but beautiful concepts, and proceed accordingly.

We keep our eyes on the prize of securing an equal share of power and choices for women – the true freedom, for example, of whether or not to have children, derived from free access to contraception, abortion, economic independence from men, sufficient parental leave, flexible, affordable childcare options and so on – not on defining what they should do with that freedom once they have it. (Have children? Not have children? Stay at home with them? Or go back to work? Call themselves "a mummy", "a mother" or "a parent"? Enough.)


http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/nov/16/feminism-rebranding-lucy-mangan

(Just as an aside, I don't think "check your privilege" or "intersectionality" are "revolting words"--that's just what people say when they think something is overused, and losing meaning.

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You know what? fuck it (Original Post) ismnotwasm Nov 2013 OP
glad you are back! boston bean Nov 2013 #1
Yeah I lasted what? 5 days? ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #2
hey, we all need a break. Believe me I know. boston bean Nov 2013 #3
... ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #4
I'm sorry, ismnotwasm, but I apparently missed Control-Z Nov 2013 #5
Oh Skinner made it clear that anti-choice opinions are tolerated here. ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #7
lol. was it that long? hugzzz... hear ya. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #12
Here, here! Brainstormy Nov 2013 #6
I'm glad you changed your mind..... Little Star Nov 2013 #8
Thank you ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #11
I get it, completely. MadrasT Nov 2013 #9
Yeah ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #10

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
2. Yeah I lasted what? 5 days?
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 09:05 AM
Nov 2013

Then I thought what the hell am I doing? The fight is part of what feminism is about. Screw the haters.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
5. I'm sorry, ismnotwasm, but I apparently missed
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 10:01 AM
Nov 2013

something. What happened? I haven't been around much the past few weeks.

(I'm glad you're back.)

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
7. Oh Skinner made it clear that anti-choice opinions are tolerated here.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 10:32 AM
Nov 2013

As long as there are "polite". I really had to evaluate whether I wanted to be part of a progressive community where this was considered "ok"--- then the multitude of abortion threads started, with some pretty disgusting opinions. I got pissed and thought I'd either leave or take a break.

Then I thought about it some more. I have a 16 old niece who is adamantly anti-abortion-she emotionalizes the fetus, and has no understanding of the risks pregnancy entails. This comes from upbringing and ignorance. Some of the opinions I read here came from outright misogyny. (and/or ignorance) And both are worthy fights.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
8. I'm glad you changed your mind.....
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 10:39 AM
Nov 2013

We need more feminists like you around here not less!

I may not comment much in here but I read just about everything you post.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
9. I get it, completely.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 11:22 AM
Nov 2013

It wears a person down after a while and I think nearly everyone needs to take a timeout sometimes to rest and re-energize.

Leaving means they win. Not an option. I will stop fighting patriarchal, misogynistic, and sexist bullshit when I am dead.

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