History of Feminism
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What I find most interesting about this discussion is the key point that in gaming, women require marks. If a character is plain, it is by default, male. Whether its a plumber, hedgehog, alien or ball of rock, simply by being unmarked its a boy. Want a girl version? Colour it pink, add some long eyelashes, and put a bow on top. That reveals an absolutely intrinsic and inherent gender bias a default assumption of maleness, with femaleness requiring a smothering of stereotyped decorations. Which of course says, Boys are normal, girls are exceptions. And yes, its just as true of cartoons, comics, and so on. But it remains true of games, and hey, were discussing games today.
I still think putting a bow on a rock to make it into a female rock is very funny. It strikes me more as a commentary on the ridiculous trope, rather than a participant. But you can see how when placed in the wider concept of the recurring pattern, it loses some of its charm. And it certainly does play into the trope, the reinforcing of the notion that default = male. This is, of course, an example of the nuance that is often missed in these critiques: something can remain individually interesting or humorous, and still play a part in a wider issue.
Ive switched comments off on this post, because the hosting for RPS cost us a fortune, and Im naffed if Im going to pay for the usual Sarkeesian-haters to spew bile at our expense. Yes, this has the consequence that people who want to make counter-arguments, or rationally challenge assertions, and indeed those who want to voice support or agreement, are unable to at the bottom of this post, and Im sorry about that. Thankfully my freedom-of-speech-destroying censorship powers only extend to the boundaries of this single website.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/11/25/take-a-bow-ms-male-character-explored/
What *I* find funny are the multitude of videos attempting to refute Sarkeesians contentions. Yet more whiny, perpetually outraged reactions. Too bad I have to work 12 hours today, I could spend the day posting about whiny perpetually outraged reactions-- when they're not out and out violent, of men threatened by feminist positions.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Mass Effect's developer has had some issues when social stereotypes in their games (for example, the only black romance option in the Mass Effect series ends up cheating on Shepard and fathering a child with another woman, and gay characters don't make an appearance until the third game). I've always been part of that loyal FemShep crowd though.
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)I'm glad she's making these videos. While the abuse and invective on social media gets most of the headlines, her videos have also sparked a lot of genuine conversation on several of the game blogs and websites I read (such as the one that the OP is quoting). Maybe the industry will start to take notice, especially since it's not even really a predominantly male hobby anymore.
The only thing that grates on me about her videos is that she has a tendency to spout off TVTropes headers with no context as a sort of shorthand for critical analysis. She's hardly the first blogger/reviewer/youtuber/whatever to do this, and it always annoys me. To be fair though, it was a lot more pronounced in the first video than this one, so hopefully she's learning to curtail this.
ismnotwasm
(41,975 posts)It's an interesting series though