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[ismnotwasm]

Via "Son of Baldwin"

[MH1]

1. Not always caused by OTHER men.

Often caused by the complainer himself.

[ismnotwasm]

2. +1

[Lithos]

4. +1

Well noted...

[BainsBane]

3. This is how I see it

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That goes for all the cries of "misandry." No one who doesn't believe the same load of bullshit shoveled by MRA groups even talks about "misandry." Can you believe one loser complained the porn debate was completely ignoring "what men want." The whole fucking commerce is about what men want. What they really mean is women have no right to talk about what they want because all that matters is themselves. Astoundingly, he started the debate by complaining about heteronormativity and then launched into "what men want" (like his own heterosexual, pathological views toward women have anything to do with homosexuality or heteronormativity). It's as though some can't imagine women too are gay. Actually, what they can't imagine is that women matter.

[xulamaude]

5. Really one of my faves during this was

a post that said (and I paraphrase 'cuz lawd, like I'd go wading through all that crap looking for it...):

'I'm gay! I don't have to care about women in porn!'

Well. Okay then liberal guy.

[BainsBane]

6. and that criticizing porn was somehow attacking people's sexuality

Including homosexualtiy. How is it that people cannot distinguish their own sex lives from commerce in porn? I find it very strange.

I think that comment you repeated sums up most of it, whether by gay men or straight. Caring about women in porn is impossible for may.

[xulamaude]

7. And as long as we're talking about this

I read this morning where one of the fellows was referencing the study of the number of certain 'acts' in porn.

This guy apparently can't figure out how having something in your mouth could lead to not being able to breathe. Because, you know, you can still breathe through your NOSE...

Spoken like a person who has not ever had something stuck far enough down his throat that he's obviously struggling to breathe. Lucky him.

[BainsBane]

8. I love the irony of the cries about heteronormativity while simultaneously

refusing to understand that rape need not be vaginal.

[nomorenomore08]

9. I suppose it may have something to do with the modern, hyper-capitalist "total state."

"How is it that people cannot distinguish their own sex lives from commerce in porn?"

The scary thing about '1984,' 'Brave New World' etc. is that in some ways we're already there. The suppression of dissent, the loss of distinction between public and private, or between image and reality. Maybe people find their sexuality indistinguishable, on some level, from pornography because they can't imagine a world that isn't mediated by constructed images.

I guess it's possible that I've simply read too much Baudrillard et. al. but this is just my (tentative) take on things.