Something I've noticed

[gaspee]

I think my nephew who lives with us (I live with my elderly parents - father has dementia - and developementally disabled brother in a house I paid off for them back when I made a lot of money) is an MRA. He spends all of his time online gaming etc. Like never, ever leaves the house. Doesn't pay for a thing either - or clean up after himself. A real joy to live with but my mother won't let me kick him out.

Anyway, the point to this is -- calling women "females" is that a thing of the younger generation or an MRA thing? It just strikes me as weird. And it's something I see from MRAs online.

He has other tendencies that make me think he is an MRA, not just the females thing.

But it's said with a derisiveness that I do associate with MRAs.

So is calling women "females" an MRA thing or just a changing language thing that I have not kept up with.

[TreasonousBastard]

1. I don't know if it's MRA or not, but...

over the years I've occasionally heard older men call women "females" and I always got the feeling that they were trying to sound scientific. Or somehow wiser than the rest of us.

I never got the sense that they were denigrating women, but now that I think of it they probably were in most cases. Outside of a biology lecture, taking such pains to distinguish "females" from the rest of us means there is something specific about them that requires definition apart from the common feminine nouns. And I doubt they saw that something as a good thing.

OTOH, they may have been hiding their own insecurities with such language. They may have actually been in awe of women and had no understanding of them at all.

Kids now? Who knows...

[redqueen]

2. It can be an MRA thing.

But often it's just a stylistic habit. You'd have to go by context. Is the person using it use other misogynist language? Do they rattle off MRA talking points?

The thing is, 'female' is an adjective. So aside from anything else, it's simply bad grammar.

[gaspee]

3. that's kind of what I thought

But wasn't sure if it was a generational thing or not.

And yeah, bad grammar.

[NuclearDem]

4. We used the term females all the time in the military.

It just sort of stuck with me.

But I use a mix of "woman" and "female", depending on the context.

[gaspee]

5. Nope, never military

He doesn't like to be told what to do - probably the same reason he can't hold a job.

[cinnabonbon]

6. I think it depends

sometimes it can be a force of habit. But what is really telling for me is not whether he calls women "females" (although that's certainly a bad warning sign) it's whether he's consistent and calls men "males" as well. If he calls men men and women are females, then I'd start to wonder if he's an MRA or not.

[seabeyond]

7. i just do not know. i have not had men in my life that are not respectful to women. i know i use

female when talking both girls and women and i do not want to write both. but, i do not know others reasoning.

lady though. i have a huge opinion on that. we are called girls or ladies. i INSIST on woman.

[iusedtobe]

8. hi

I need to contact you, but I don't have enough posts to do so.

[seabeyond]

9. then chat. are you having a good christmas... eve. i guess.

me personally? i am feeling pretty good

[iusedtobe]

10. it's about oitw

[seabeyond]

11. lol. clueless. i did send you a pm.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

12. whomever this is ... I think they need ten posts before they can PM. I don't know if they can

read your PM or not.

[nomorenomore08]

13. You don't have to kick him out. But you should certainly make him clean up after himself

at the very least. Or does he consider that "wimmens work"?

[redqueen]

14. Most guys who aren't willing to share household / parenting duties equally won't come out and say

"that's women's work!"

Not anymore.

Now they use dodges like, 'You're just better at this stuff.' 'I didn't even notice the (trash was full/dryer was finished/dishwasher was full/etc.)' 'It doesn't bother me to (see dirty clothes on the floor/have dishes piled in the sink/leave dirty dishes on the table/etc. etc. etc. ad nauseam).'

I don't know why an equitable sharing of unpaid labor is so difficult to achieve. That these duties aren't shared equally even in the most progressive countries as far as equality of the sexes goes doesn't inspire much hope that it will change anytime soon.

[nomorenomore08]

15. People just mindlessly do things the same old way because "that's how it's done."

You're right, it isn't very hope-inspiring...