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boston bean

(36,220 posts)
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 09:58 AM Feb 2014

No Kidding: Sexist Jokes Aren't Funny, They're Hostile

What's the difference between a woman and a pay phone?
You need a quarter to use a pay phone."


"How is a woman like a condom?
Both of them spend more time in your wallet than on your dick."


"What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?
Nothing, you already told her twice."

Women can be easily deceived, used and abused. Women are gold diggers, teasing you sexually but really only after your money. That's the subliminal message here, right? That last joke is great because it alludes to physical abuse, which we all know makes for hysterical comedy material.

Care for one more? Here goes!

"I like my violence like I like my beer: domestic"

That last one wasn't a joke told by a bunch of guys on their fifth pitcher of beer, slowly starting to slur their words and letting their inhibitions down.

Nope.

It was the recent Facebook status of popular east-end Montreal bar, Nacho Libre, whose social media manager somehow thought it completely appropriate to publish this cringe-inducing "joke." Isn't domestic abuse a riot?

That same bar recently had a sign outside, announcing the pick-up line of the day. Want to know what it was? Take notes, boys and girls. This one's bound to score you some digits.

"Does this handkerchief smell like chloroform?"




the rest at:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/toula-foscolos/sexist-jokes-women_b_4815632.html
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No Kidding: Sexist Jokes Aren't Funny, They're Hostile (Original Post) boston bean Feb 2014 OP
yet, there are women who laugh at these types of jokes ... Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #1
They laugh because they think that going along with it lowers the chances eridani Mar 2014 #8
You could be right but, honestly, I would rather hear from one of them on the reason why they Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #9
someone said something not long ago, that really made sense. that to laugh at these jokes, seabeyond Mar 2014 #10
here is the thing about that seabeyond, Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #11
yes. a lot of me can be characterized as male thougth process. but... i am still all woman, lol. seabeyond Mar 2014 #12
ok. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #16
very likely... hlthe2b Mar 2014 #13
But there's no rape culture, right? gollygee Feb 2014 #2
Very good article. CrispyQ Feb 2014 #3
So much sadness redqueen Feb 2014 #5
Indeed... Society does reinforce the "other" impression and objectification 'validates' the biases hlthe2b Mar 2014 #14
But gaspee Feb 2014 #4
This ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #6
I would say this needs to be posted in GD.... Lunacee_2013 Mar 2014 #7
I would agree... hlthe2b Mar 2014 #15
upper 70's here hlthe2b. how about with you? and i wanna play. lol. NO battle. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #17
Yesterday was warmish and we'd had a chance to dry up a bit... Today, snow! hlthe2b Mar 2014 #18
that is right. i should have known. you are a day ahead. tomorrow it hits us. hence, seabeyond Mar 2014 #19
Enjoy... My furry babe is cozily snuggling with me on the sofa as we watch it snow outside hlthe2b Mar 2014 #20
iced, baby, lol. maybe i ought to stock up on fun foods too. hey, there is a thought. seabeyond Mar 2014 #21

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
1. yet, there are women who laugh at these types of jokes ...
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 11:29 AM
Feb 2014

I don't know why because they make me want to slap somebody (and that would be the hostility, people).

If I ain't laughing it ain't funny

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
10. someone said something not long ago, that really made sense. that to laugh at these jokes,
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:05 PM
Mar 2014

one must step out of our women eyes and see it only from a mans eye. then and only then it can be funny. because each and everyone of these jokes, at the expense of the woman is to insult all women. so to laugh, one cannot see it as a woman. she must see it from the mans point of view, or the mans eyes.

i explained this yesterday to my 21 yr old niece, that was talking about it. it was a light bulb moment for her, too, in understanding.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
11. here is the thing about that seabeyond,
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:10 PM
Mar 2014

you (and I) -think- like a -man- .... we have discussed this yet, we don't find those jokes funny ....

and I have terrible hospital humor and laugh at a lot of very distasteful jokes.



 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
12. yes. a lot of me can be characterized as male thougth process. but... i am still all woman, lol.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:16 PM
Mar 2014

and still lived life from day one as a female. and i still see life thru a womans eye. and i honor value and appreciate womans song. so... yes. i identify with man. i also am woman. i am bivisual/vocal

oh, btw. the characterizations of being a man is only societies definition. not the reality of being man, being woman. because you and i process information, or though, or feeling in what would be categorized as male, does not make it so. and that is the reason i want to bust all these stereotypes. i am woman. that is who i am. why does a man get to own that when it is not exclusively male? cause it is admired, it is given to male.

like strength.

want to see strength? watch women all thru their lives raising their kids, protecting, providing. i see women of strength all ove rthe fuckin place. i mean, huge emotional strength that would bring some men to their knees. yet men get the adjective.... strength as a descriptive. bullshit.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
16. ok.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:24 PM
Mar 2014

I am tired of defining people via societal norms.

We are all individuals and each of us has walked our own path.

Some people just have a shitty sense of humor.

Some people still laugh at the same old tired lame jokes that have been told a million times.

I am not one of those people.

I laugh the first time, the second time I don't laugh because the "surprise" element of the joke is gone.

I am not "surprised" and have nothing to laugh about.

hlthe2b

(102,190 posts)
13. very likely...
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:16 PM
Mar 2014

In terms of psychological comparisons, sort of reminds one of Stockholme Syndrome

CrispyQ

(36,437 posts)
3. Very good article.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:01 PM
Feb 2014

Fascinating:

Still, it's important to point to actual studies that pinpoint the results of something so many consider utterly benign. In the study, men were exposed to sexist images and humour, and then asked to participate in a project designed to determine how funding cuts should be allocated among select student organizations.

The study found that, upon exposure to sexist humour, men higher in sexism discriminated against women by allocating larger funding cuts to a women's organization than they did to other organizations. They also found that, in the presence of sexist humour, participants believed the other participants would approve of the funding cuts to women's organizations.

What this shows is that humorous disparagement creates the perception of a shared standard of tolerance of discrimination that may guide behaviour when people believe others feel the same way.

"Sexist humor is not simply benign amusement. It can affect men's perceptions of their immediate social surroundings and allow them to feel comfortable with behavioral expressions of sexism without the fear of disapproval of their peers," said Thomas E. Ford, a faculty member in the psychology department at WCU. "Specifically, we propose that sexist humor acts as a 'releaser' of prejudice."



In the comments section, I love Jake T:

I have three sons and I have taught them since infancy that sexist humour creates image inside their brains that denigrates all women. I have taught them when someone says a joke imagine it is about their younger sister or their mother. I ask them how they would feel if people said those sorts of things about their mum even in jest. The answer has always been, "it would make me feel angry and/or sad." These jokes perpetuated negative stereotypes against women and cause them harm. These jokes minimize violence and emotional harm perpetrated against women. Simply put, they are not funny.


redqueen

(115,103 posts)
5. So much sadness
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 06:47 PM
Feb 2014

I hate what it says about the socialization of men, that it makes a difference when they imagine it is one of 'their women' being targeted with the 'joke'

Why does it make such a difference?

Because those "other" women are completely dehumanized. This is the goal of the constant objectification of women.

In war, we dehumanize the "other" ... so that soldiers are able to more easily murder them.

What does it say that this practice is carried out so ubiquitously against half of the human race?

hlthe2b

(102,190 posts)
14. Indeed... Society does reinforce the "other" impression and objectification 'validates' the biases
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:20 PM
Mar 2014

ismnotwasm

(41,971 posts)
6. This
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 07:18 PM
Feb 2014
A research project led by a Western Carolina University psychology professor indicates that exposure to sexist humour can lead to tolerance of hostile feelings and discrimination against women.

Like we needed a scientific study to reach that conclusion...

Still, it's important to point to actual studies that pinpoint the results of something so many consider utterly benign. In the study, men were exposed to sexist images and humour, and then asked to participate in a project designed to determine how funding cuts should be allocated among select student organizations.

The study found that, upon exposure to sexist humour, men higher in sexism discriminated against women by allocating larger funding cuts to a women's organization than they did to other organizations. They also found that, in the presence of sexist humour, participants believed the other participants would approve of the funding cuts to women's organizations.

What this shows is that humorous disparagement creates the perception of a shared standard of tolerance of discrimination that may guide behaviour when people believe others feel the same way.

"Sexist humor is not simply benign amusement. It can affect men's perceptions of their immediate social surroundings and allow them to feel comfortable with behavioral expressions of sexism without the fear of disapproval of their peers," said Thomas E. Ford, a faculty member in the psychology department at WCU. "Specifically, we propose that sexist humor acts as a 'releaser' of prejudice."

Lunacee_2013

(529 posts)
7. I would say this needs to be posted in GD....
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 03:27 AM
Mar 2014

But we all know how that would go.

"There are sexist jokes about men, too!" (Because a thread that focuses only on women is a no-no.)

"They're just jokes. If you don't want to hear them then you should never leave your house." (Saw a thread on street harassment a while back where someone basically told a female poster that if she didn't want to get harassed, then she should stay at home.)

"Don't tell me what to say! 1st amendment, 1st amendment, 1st amendment!" (In the same street harassment thread, several female posters tried to give a few male posters tips on how to approach unknown women in public, but they're wouldn't listen. Apparently, no one was going to tell then what to say, damn it!)

And on, and on, and on...

hlthe2b

(102,190 posts)
15. I would agree...
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:24 PM
Mar 2014

That said, I'm not sure any of us are up for another embattled mega-thread repeating the same ugly sexist comments we've seen from the usual few the past weeks.

Hopefully, those who are open to the truth of this issue, will see on the Greatest page.

hlthe2b

(102,190 posts)
18. Yesterday was warmish and we'd had a chance to dry up a bit... Today, snow!
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:33 PM
Mar 2014

I think it is a quick, low snow total storm, but still.... 17 degrees actual, windchill, -3.

Boy was the Farmer's Almanac correct in predicting a snowy winter.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
19. that is right. i should have known. you are a day ahead. tomorrow it hits us. hence,
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:38 PM
Mar 2014

me playing in the warmth today, lol.

hlthe2b

(102,190 posts)
20. Enjoy... My furry babe is cozily snuggling with me on the sofa as we watch it snow outside
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:41 PM
Mar 2014

Tomorrow looks better for getting those errands done anyway. LOL

You supposed to get ice?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
21. iced, baby, lol. maybe i ought to stock up on fun foods too. hey, there is a thought.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 01:03 PM
Mar 2014

i never, or rarely play on the ice

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