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ismnotwasm

(41,965 posts)
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:55 AM Mar 2014

Ban 'Bossy' and Reject 'Angry': Why We Must Stop the Mislabeling of Black Women

Recently, the news and the Internet have been abuzz with stories about Facebook’s Sheryl Sandberg and pop star Beyoncé Knowles and their mission to ban the word “bossy” as it applies to girls and women. Their campaign makes sense. It’s no secret that in America, attributes praised in men are often vilified in women. Where a man is bold, confident, daring and a real “go-getter”, a woman is aggressive, bitchy, cocky or a “ball-breaker”. In other words, assertive girls and women get called “bossy”.

Little girls who emerge as natural leaders on the playground are discouraged from being “bossy”. Where little boys might be encouraged to seize the reins of whatever game or activity in which they’re engaged, little girls are scolded to “share”, and “let so-and-so take control, now”. It’s as if being a natural leader is a bad thing, a threat to their femininity. Or worse, a girl’s assertiveness emasculates the boys around her.

Labelling anyone with a negative description like “bossy” damages their self-esteem. And it just isn’t fair. It isn’t fair to squash a girl’s natural leadership skills so that she isn’t labelled as aggressive. Yet while I agree with the thesis behind Ms. Sandberg’s and Ms. Knowles’ campaign, I believe that another term should be eliminated as well. I want to destroy, once and for all, the myth of the “Angry Black Woman”.

Just like the “bossy” label, the Angry Black Woman (ABW) label diminishes and trivializes the experiences and feelings of Black women. If every time a Black woman asserts her rights she gets pigeon-holed as an ABW, her voice is silenced. No one hears her.

The exception, of course, is when Black women speak out for issues that affect men, too. Our outrage is fine as long as we’re marching for civil rights or protesting new voting laws which seek to disenfranchise minorities. Our wrath is justified when we decry the modern day lynching of our young Black men under the Stand Your Ground laws. When we’re rallying against these injustices, our tears are celebrated, held up as emblems of the struggle: grieving mothers, clutching the photographs of our slain sons. But the moment we speak up for ourselves, we become the Angry Black Woman.


http://www.forharriet.com/2014/03/ban-bossy-and-reject-angry-why-we-must.html
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Ban 'Bossy' and Reject 'Angry': Why We Must Stop the Mislabeling of Black Women (Original Post) ismnotwasm Mar 2014 OP
I used to tell my boys not to be bossy when they were ordering others around Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2014 #1
The post was focusing more ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #2
Here's the thing JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #4
I saw the post about Beyonce - was it last week? JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #3
I want to keep it part of *a* conversation ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #5
I knew you would get JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #6
Thank you ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #7

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
1. I used to tell my boys not to be bossy when they were ordering others around
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:16 PM
Mar 2014

and I just told a grandson to stop being bossy a few weeks ago.

Being bossy is rude and I won't stop encouraging them to be nice and take others feelings into consideration.

If they were girls I would have told them the exact same thing.

synonyms: domineering, pushy, overbearing, imperious, officious, high-handed, authoritarian, dictatorial, controlling

ismnotwasm

(41,965 posts)
2. The post was focusing more
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 01:58 PM
Mar 2014

On "the Angry Black Woman"--- a racist and all too common perception; in feminism, there tends to be a strong focus on white women that leaves out the nuance or outright issues of women of color, but thank you for your reply

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
4. Here's the thing
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 06:01 PM
Mar 2014

A black woman who is just defending herself - gets labeled all of those things without behaving that way. That's the context of the article.

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
3. I saw the post about Beyonce - was it last week?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 05:49 PM
Mar 2014

About "I'm the Boss" or something along those lines.

While I agree with this article's general premise - I think that I would caution young black women entering a finance organization/Corporate America/a Multi-National company to embrace that 'stereotype'.

Take a look at this article as to why:

http://thegrio.com/2011/06/21/do-negative-stereotypes-actually-help-black-women-in-business/


During a talk at Stanford this month titled, “Black Women and the Backlash Effect — Understanding the Intersection of Race and Gender”, Phillips said that on the whole, black women are viewed as “independent, competent, and demanding of respect in the workplace” — and that these are all considered “classic leadership traits”. It is these impressions of black women that help explain (and contribute to) some of their recent success in education and business: Two-thirds of African-American college undergrads are female. And, between 2002 and 2008, the number of businesses owned by black women rose by 19 percent — twice as fast as all other firms and generating $29 billion in sales nationwide.

Notably, some of the very racism and sexism that has fueled offensive and inaccurate representations of us in popular discourse has helped to create these impressions, and contributed to our ability to reach these new heights in academia and the workplace.

If it seems counter-intuitive, consider some context. Public attacks on black women have been leveled frequently and offensively, especially in recent months. Late last year, for example, a series of animated ‘Black Marriage Negotiations’ videos went viral, in which a black female professional presents unreasonably high standards for a mate, suggesting it is black women’s own fault for not being able to find or keep a partner.


Down a bit farther in the article:
“African-American women may not be seen as prototypical blacks, and they may not be seen as prototypical women,” Phillips said. “That invisibility might end up being something that’s helpful in allowing [them] to take on behaviors that otherwise would not be allowed. Black women may be in a unique position to, in fact, step into leadership positions, to be embraced in leadership positions.”

In fact, in her studies she found that black women turned out to be the most employable, in part because we could assume broader roles than white women without being criticized. “Black women have more ability to be forceful in the workplace without appearing threatening,” Phillips explained. And black women “have more latitude to display…dominance.”


There's another board I used to frequent and the convo was robust enough that I save that link to that article.

Certainly in romantic relationships and general perception of black women - I think the stereotypes of us well - suck. Melissa Harris Perry really nailed it in her book - those archetypes and how America needs to shift it's vision and accept that it's dominant culture projection - not the reality of who we are. At the same time, she challenged black women to address those stereotypes we've embraced within.

I think her challenging of The Help (both the book and the movie) as well as Dr. Corny (tee hee) showed me that she walks the talk. While women in America applauded The Help - she addressed how 'sick' it made us feel. Here at a time when the first lady is a Black Woman - why? Why now? And well - Dr. Corny West wants her to sit down and shut up - and she still hasn't.

I don't know that one of the Fox Channel's Vixens would have her job still if she behaved as absolutely defiantly as Harris Perry does. Or - as another comparison on the intersection of perception of a woman - Rachel Maddow.

I've never seen a young black female intern or new hire 'raise her hand' in a meeting. When I joined the large telecom I work at now - I inherited someone else's fresh out of S.U. new hire. She was Caucasian, very pretty, EXTREMELY intelligent - and she raised her hand in a meeting. . It was almost as if she was asking permission to be there in that room full of men and me - and I shared that with her. I.E. Don't do that L.

She let's call her "L" considers me a mentor to this day - as does an intern-to-hire (let's call her D) I had the following summer. I went to lunch with them on 'bonus day' - took all of my mentees out. Male and female of several different races and nationalities. We had a robust convo about some feedback L go in her review - she and D now work on the same team in Marketing.

They both behave/act in the same way as they went to the justanothergen school of how to succeed in telecom. I told her - god help me - don't back down. But I find it surprising that D displays 'strong leadership skills' and L displayed 'arrogance'.

So how do we make it acceptable for white women to embrace these behaviors and still be viewed as strong leaders?

Yeah - I'm the boss - and I'm a trophy wife (that's a nod to personal relationships - another discussion) - that article also talks about the perception of black women as romantic partners and how success impacts are choices in men. Ironically - I'm married to a man that is an immigrant from another country - and white - where assertiveness and strength are highly sought after traits.

Getting a little off track and target but this could be a really interesting discussion to have at DU. I don't want to be left behind by white feminists - and being a person of honor - I don't want to leave white women behind or women of ANY race that want to reach for the brass ring. I can only do so much 'in house' - but what can we do to promote, mentor, guide, and support each other in obtaining leadership positions?

ismnotwasm

(41,965 posts)
5. I want to keep it part of *a* conversation
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:54 PM
Mar 2014

When I read black feminist blogs, a major complaint is one of exclusion.

As far as the articles context, it could be looked at another way as I think you are pointing out--any women has the same right to be pissed off without carrying somebody else's cultural baggage. If someone has that kind of shit in their load, It's their baggage, they own it, and they can carry it all by themselves. I ain't helping them.

Still, stereotypes do an awful lot of damage, and keeping the conversation alive is the best way to combat themIMO


Very cool story about mentoring-- another part of the conversation!

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