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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 12:58 PM Nov 2014

Male TV host wears same suit for year; no one notices

Australian TV host Karl Stefanovic wore the same suit for a year and no one noticed.

Stefanovic, who co-hosts the Today morning program in Australia, said he was frustrated by the sexism targeted at his female colleagues.

"No one has noticed; no one gives a (expletive)," Stefanovic told Australian newspaper The Age. "But women, they wear the wrong color and they get pulled up. They say the wrong thing and there's thousands of tweets written about them."


Stefanovic said women are judged "more harshly and keenly for what they do, what they say and what they wear," reports The Age.


http://www.kens5.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/11/17/tv-host-same-suit-sexism/19161031/

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Male TV host wears same suit for year; no one notices (Original Post) LanternWaste Nov 2014 OP
i always feel for michelle obama. mopinko Nov 2014 #1
All first ladies since I can remember have been lightnig rods Warpy Nov 2014 #8
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ mopinko Nov 2014 #18
I have never forgotten my first business trip I took with a male colleague rocktivity Nov 2014 #2
There is sexism against men in the fashion area nichomachus Nov 2014 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Nov 2014 #4
I agree....I think he looked pretty sharp Lochloosa Nov 2014 #5
Yeah, it was SUMMER, ferkirssakes Warpy Nov 2014 #9
I don't perceive simplistic convenience as being sexist. LanternWaste Nov 2014 #7
I do/did nichomachus Nov 2014 #12
is your premise "required course for employed on how to dress" limited only to males? LanternWaste Nov 2014 #13
Yes n/t nichomachus Nov 2014 #14
So the female employees had no dress code at all? cyberswede Nov 2014 #15
if they were that harsh on the men noiretextatique Nov 2014 #17
I noticed our president looks sharp in his suits IronLionZion Nov 2014 #21
The "business suit" needs to GO.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #6
No need to change a classic. :) cyberswede Nov 2014 #16
This is the 21st Century.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #19
And water is wet... He didn't need to where the same suit to prove this point. glowing Nov 2014 #10
I'm glad he did this. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2014 #11
Interesting ismnotwasm Nov 2014 #20

mopinko

(70,076 posts)
1. i always feel for michelle obama.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 01:10 PM
Nov 2014

barack has 5 identical suits and a couple ties. and a tux. nobody notices.
i know from friends here that she is a tshirt and blue jeans person who hates dressing up. yet she does it with great style. and get all kind of stupid for it.

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
8. All first ladies since I can remember have been lightnig rods
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 03:52 PM
Nov 2014

for petty, spiteful criticism of everything they say, do or wear.

All women who are in the public eye for any reason get the same shit, the First Lady just catches the worst of it.

The internet just made all the little boys of all ages showing off for their mates escalate it into posting addresses and exhorting their other chickenshit little friends into rape and murder.

I don't feel sorry for my sisters being treated like that, I am outraged that this sexual disease of perpetual little boys isn't being seen for the illness it is. I'm outraged that other men don't care that this is happening. I despise a patriarchal system where it is considered useful to keep the slave half of the human race in their places.

rocktivity

(44,575 posts)
2. I have never forgotten my first business trip I took with a male colleague
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 01:23 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Mon Nov 17, 2014, 08:37 PM - Edit history (2)

It was just for one night, and with a male co-worker. I show up with an enormous garment bag; he shows up with an expandable briefcase packed with not much more than an extra shirt!


rocktivity

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
3. There is sexism against men in the fashion area
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 02:22 PM
Nov 2014

Men are supposed to look pretty much the same day after day. Dark suit, white or light blue shirt, blue and red tie, black shoes.

If they deviate from that "uniform," then they will be criticized. Look at a meeting of politicians -- they're all dressed exactly the same. If anyone tried to show any creativity, they would get flack.

It's the complete opposite of what women endure, but it's sexism just the same. Men cannot be "fashionable."

Response to nichomachus (Reply #3)

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
9. Yeah, it was SUMMER, ferkirssakes
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 03:54 PM
Nov 2014

He looked clean, cool, and comfortable in that suit.

I guess a lot of spiteful little jerks out there only own one suit and think it's macho to freeze in winter and swelter in summer.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
7. I don't perceive simplistic convenience as being sexist.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 03:37 PM
Nov 2014

I don't perceive simplistic convenience as being sexist.

"If they deviate from that "uniform," then they will be criticized..."
I simply don't see that happening in any substantial way.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
12. I do/did
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:25 PM
Nov 2014

I worked for a Fortune 500 company that had a required course for employes on how to dress -- even to the point of how long your tie should be (right to the top of the belt buckle -- no longer, no shorter.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. is your premise "required course for employed on how to dress" limited only to males?
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:30 PM
Nov 2014

Hence, your observations are limited then to one company rather than the culture as an whole? As the F500 Co. I currently work for allows great latitude...

Additional, is your premise "required course for employed on how to dress" limited only to males? If so, then yes, that is sexist.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
15. So the female employees had no dress code at all?
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 06:00 PM
Nov 2014

Could they wear their neckties any length they pleased?

IronLionZion

(45,418 posts)
21. I noticed our president looks sharp in his suits
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 04:43 PM
Nov 2014

so I googled it and there are some articles written about his wardrobe. I even bought a Hart Shaffner Marx suit and some Joseph Abboud shirts because that's what he wears and they are made in America. He keeps it simple, practical, and elegant.



I've heard tons of complaints about women's clothing. It's apparently a long standing problem. You'd think someone would try to make more practical women's clothing eventually.


cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
16. No need to change a classic. :)
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 06:15 PM
Nov 2014

They tried it in the 70s...we don't ever want to see THAT again.



Though some variations are pretty awesome:









 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
19. This is the 21st Century....
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 01:47 AM
Nov 2014

The "business suit" is SOOOO "last century".

Speaking of...

19th Century:



18th Century:



17th Century:



Time for something new.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
11. I'm glad he did this.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 03:57 PM
Nov 2014

Men all wear the same basic uniform, including hair style, so they really don't stand out much. It's amazing how many negative viewer comments are made when the woman anchor changes her hairstyle, or wears something really unusual.

I do have a confession to make, though. One of the local anchorwomen is extremely pale, with very light blonde hair. From time to time she wears this beige blouse that matches her skin tone exactly, so much so that at first glance it appears that she's topless. I crack up every time she wears it.

ismnotwasm

(41,975 posts)
20. Interesting
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 10:03 AM
Nov 2014

For those who enjoy self decoration, Men's professional choices are limited, while women's are scrutinized to the last detail. A well to do person might notice the difference between 'off the rack' suits, vs tailor made, but other than that men dress like little Matrix like robots.

Too bad really. There is a certain type of young person-- a certain age-- where fashions seem to blend together, almost for a while, men don't mind jewelry and both will favor 'additude' tee shirts. Ect. Hair is much the same. I remember my youngest with dreadlocks while rating a pnk Rock musician-- also with dreads. I remember my son in a skirt, because he didn't give a shit. The two older girls followed a more conservative path, especially the oldest, but her and her husband are still pretty casual. My SIL wears suits to occasions like baptisms, it's too bad there's no other 'proper' choice in his mind

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