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ismnotwasm

(41,965 posts)
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 01:35 PM Feb 2015

8 Things Some A$$#ole Says in Every Debate About Sexism

Well worth reading the whole thing

#8. The Duh-DoS
The first and worst asshole technique for arguing against feminism is demanding proof of sexism every single time the subject is raised. It's a popular strategy because it pretends to be in good faith. New claims do require proof. But sexual inequality isn't a new claim. Sexual inequality is almost the entire history of our species. When nearly every social statistic in every country on the planet is evidence of the problem, people fighting it don't have to list them all to justify the discussion.


#7. The Semantic Quo
As well as wasting your time, assholes want those specific lists so they can move on to their second front: wasting more of your time. They'll try to disprove your points with all the obsession and specificity of someone proving Green Lantern could totally beat Superman. But less connection to reality. They'll apply more minute attention to detail than the search for the Higgs boson, and act like their results have more massive effects on reality


#6. Saint or GTFO
This imperfection attack is digging through someone's Internet history to see if they've ever said anything less than perfect. Because the only allowed options are immaculate saint or total asshole, and the antifeminists have the asshole side locked down. They're the Asshole Emperors, defending their rule by defecating over everything and everyone who's made the mistake of facing them. They'll extract something sort of stupid said several years ago, usually by ripping it more dangerously out of context than the core of an atomic warhead, and wave it around as if it was exactly that powerful.

#5. Accusing Victims of Faking It

anyone denying the existence of sexism can go to any YouTube video with a woman in it, read the comments, and fuck off. Victim-accusation isn't an impartial quest for truth or "hearing both sides." It's piling extra pressure on the victim as standard operating procedure.

While accusations of sexism apparently require a Supreme Court ruling as a cited source, accusations of faking sexism need no support whatsoever. "I'm just looking for proof," smiles the scumbag. "I'm just calling every woman a liar and acting like that's the unbiased course of action, instead of proof of the problem I'm denying, and if there was any justice in existence I would cease to do so."

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/blog/8-a242423oles-who-show-up-every-time-word-feminism-used/#ixzz3SDHufFOU

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8 Things Some A$$#ole Says in Every Debate About Sexism (Original Post) ismnotwasm Feb 2015 OP
I don't even understand why it is debate about factual history. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2015 #1
Yeah shenmue Feb 2015 #2
Like this ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #3
And my favorite ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #4
I don't ask for anything. I fucking earned it just like that asshole did. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2015 #5
and isnt that what du has devolved to. if you women are unfairly juried, attacked, seabeyond Feb 2015 #8
This is the one that always gets me. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #6
Great article! ablamj Feb 2015 #7
I am so sorry! Exhibit A Feb 2015 #9

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
1. I don't even understand why it is debate about factual history.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 01:42 PM
Feb 2015

Why does one refute the facts and why even try ... ?
(oh we know why but, I refuse to reply thus legitimize their derailing tactics.)

There can be a dispute of opinion, I understand.

But, the essence of truth is in the undeniable fact of the matter.

ismnotwasm

(41,965 posts)
3. Like this
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 01:53 PM
Feb 2015
Sexism isn't a scientific proof: Someone can't unravel the whole thing by picking at one point. And unless they're a wizard they can't reshuffle syllables until reality changes. Sexism isn't "identifying that a gender exists," it's "unfair treatment of people because of that gender, especially women." It's such a universally understood problem it's in the dictionary. It doesn't matter how much someone obsesses over the exact phrasing of a Twitter rape threat: A thousand more have been posted since. The Semantic Quo is an extended waste of time. Because when someone's arguing semantics from the side of the status quo, wasting time is all they need to do.

ismnotwasm

(41,965 posts)
4. And my favorite
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 01:54 PM
Feb 2015
Assholes act as if anger in response to centuries of systematic oppression is equal to centuries of systematic oppression, and the two cancel out. "Maybe if you were nicer about asking," they say, and it's impossible to respond properly, because only comic characters can scream so loudly it ruptures their eardrums and pulps their skulls.


Though exposure to such bullshit may cause women to evolve a Naturschrei organ.

"Maybe if you were nicer about the constant stream of poison you're subjected to, I'd consider not pissing into it." Someone being aggressive in reaction to sexist abuse isn't attacking anyone. Someone being aggressive in reaction to sexist abuse is reacting to sexist abuse. The tactic of getting women as mad as possible and then acting innocent was developed by studying 6-year-old boys. No, sorry, being 6-year-old boys.

It's another way of reframing an urgent discussion of sexual equality as a patriarchal indulgence. "Asking nicely" is for a child who wants more ice cream: an inferior petitioner begging the favor of a stern authority figure



Read more: http://www.cracked.com/blog/8-a242423oles-who-show-up-every-time-word-feminism-used/#ixzz3SDNF3cAr

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
5. I don't ask for anything. I fucking earned it just like that asshole did.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 02:20 PM
Feb 2015

I don't do well with stupid and thank god I am not talking with this asshole right now. This shit makes my blood pressure boil just reading this crap.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
8. and isnt that what du has devolved to. if you women are unfairly juried, attacked,
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 08:31 AM
Feb 2015

called names ect.... you earned it cause in "educating" you were not nice enough.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
6. This is the one that always gets me.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 03:08 PM
Feb 2015
"I'm not a feminist, I'm an equalist." They're not an equalist, they're an asshole. This doesn't bring enlightened impartiality to the problem, it smugly pretends to bring enlightened superiority to the problem while implying that silly women are being distracted from the wider picture by their own selfishness.

Equalists claim we must tackle all bad things everywhere but start by derailing the discussion of even one of them. Entering a centuries-long struggle affecting billions of lives, their opener is, "Heh, let me fix this cute little mistake you made." Even if they had a point, and they really don't, their first priority is branding.

...

Feminism is gendered not because women want to be treated better in the future but because they're being treated worse right now. Insisting on "equalism" means defining yourself by ignoring that fact. As if sexism, street harassment, pay differences, and rape threats affect genders equally. But the only way everyone could be affected equally is if we were conquered by the universe's worst aliens. And should we enter that dark space-future, and you get the job as commander of Babylon 5 with its dozens of alien races, then sure, equalism will be the way to go. But here on Earth we have a gender spectrum with two definite poles, and one of them is clearly treated worse than the other.

ablamj

(333 posts)
7. Great article!
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 07:47 PM
Feb 2015

From now on we should respond to antifem...oops, I mean assholes' comments by just saying, "number 6" or "number 3" etc. They'll have no idea what we mean. LOL.

Exhibit A

(318 posts)
9. I am so sorry!
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 09:07 PM
Feb 2015

I posted this on Monday without realizing you had already posted it. It was completely unintentional -- I should have looked more carefully before posting. My apologies.

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