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ismnotwasm

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Tue Mar 3, 2015, 04:54 PM Mar 2015

Are You Man Enough for the Men's Rights Movement?

This in GQ yet-- those poor MRA's never catch a break.


Intro:Are You Man Enough for the Men's Rights Movement?
Probably not, at least according to a growing army of pissed-off activists who are convinced that the male species is profoundly endangered by our feminized society. They say it's a woman's world now—that women have the upper hand in sex, in universities, in custody battles. And don't even get them started on all those bogus rape cases. It's enough to make a certain kind of man join a revolution. Jeff Sharlet reports from the movement's first national gathering and meets the true believers who want you to fight for your right to patriarchy


A Voice for Men's first International Conference on Men's Issues convened a month after the killing. The issues were as varied as the manosphere: fathers' rights, suicide, and circumcision (a.k.a. male genital mutilation), and also false accusations of rape, male victims of rape, and unfaithful wives "cuckoo for cocoa penis puffs," as one speaker would put it, plus "mangina" journalists who "cherry-pick" quotes such as "cuckoo for cocoa penis puffs" out of context. 1. It was supposed to be at the Detroit DoubleTree, a swank downtown hotel, but the feminists protested, and since the elite hospitality industry is pretty much in the thrall of feminism, or because the feminists floated death threats, or because a member of the men's movement floated death threats so people would understand that the feminists are floating death threats even if they did not, in this instance, float any death threats—for one of these disturbing reasons, A Voice for Men was told by the DoubleTree to "go elsewhere."

Elsewhere is a town called St. Clair Shores, and in it a VFW, Post 1146, known as "the Bruce." As in the sign out front that declares, cruising at the bruce / every friday night / 5–9 P.M. (By "cruising" they mean muscle cars, a fact I mention because A Voice for Men is surprisingly pro-gay, or at least anti-anti-gay.) There's artillery on the lawn and a faded sign on a fence around a parking lot: warning, of what, to whom, it is not clear. The blacktop beyond, where conference attendees line up to go through "security," is broken with weeds, but the men don't notice the decline in the conference's circumstances. They're too excited about "security." They keep saying, "No feminist better try coming here!" Local police have dispatched four officers, and the conference attendees have deputized even more security from their own ranks. "Security" wears black polo shirts, and there are a lot of black polo shirts, but since the line is slow, security decides to sweep us all in with a request to return for a "check." Nobody does. Only one feminist later attempts entry, an activist who goes by the handle "Dark Horse Swore." The black shirts eighty-six her. She sets up at a nearby bar, orders pizza, opens a tab, and invites any conference attendee who cares to talk. No takers. Feminist pizza? Not a chance. These men, they're hip to feminine wiles. They've taken the red pill, they like to say.

The red-pill moment, explains one men's rights activist (MRA), "is the day you decide nothing looks the same." It's what the movement calls the born-again experience of opening your eyes to women's Matrix-like control of the modern world. For a young MRA named Max von Holtzendorff, the red-pill moment was being accused of sexual harrassment by a co-worker to whom he proposed sex, "being blunt and forthright, because that seemed the best way to ensure consent." For Dan Perrins, one of the security black shirts, it was the day he ended up in jail, after he says he lodged a complaint against his ex, the beginning of a legal battle that led him to a hunger strike. "I should have killed the bitch five years ago," he tells me. "I'd be out by now." For Gunther Schadow, an M.D.-Ph.D., it was a "meta-study" on domestic violence that inspired him to seed a foundation with about half a million dollars, with which he now hopes to overturn the Violence Against Women Act. For Dan Moore, whose MRA name is Factory, the red pill was a revelation in stages. First, he says, his wife cheated on him. Then she wanted him to know it. "She'd laugh at me." His low point: lying on the floor in a fetal curl while she stood over him mocking him. He says she had a butcher knife in her hand. (She denies this. All of it.)

"Women gone insane with the power of the pussy pass" is how Elam describes the movement's raison d'être in an essay called "When Is It OK to Punch Your Wife?" Another one of his provocations. Elam's white, but he identifies with Malcolm X; he believes he needs to shock society to be heard. He says his talk of "the business end of a right hook" and women who are "freaking begging" to be raped is simply his version of Malcolm's "by any means necessary." To wit: Elam's proposal to make October "Bash a Violent Bitch Month," in which men should take the women who abuse them "by the hair and smack their face against the wall till the smugness of beating on someone because you know they won't fight back drains from their nose with a few million red corpuscles."
http://www.gq.com/news-politics/big-issues/201503/mens-rights-activism-the-red-pill
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Are You Man Enough for the Men's Rights Movement? (Original Post) ismnotwasm Mar 2015 OP
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #1
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Enjoy your stay ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #8
Wow! Thanks MIRT ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #9
MIRT has to play wack a troll sometimes ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #10
Thanks. n/t. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #11
Funny how those "red-pill moments" seem to all begin with being rejected by a woman. arcane1 Mar 2015 #2
Not man enough for the men and women at Style dot com One_Life_To_Give Mar 2015 #3
This is a surprisingly good explanation for the MRM. F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #6
Good Lord shenmue Mar 2015 #5
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
1. LOL ...
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:00 PM
Mar 2015
A Voice for Men's first International Conference on Men's Issues convened a month after the killing. The issues were as varied as the manosphere: fathers' rights, suicide, and circumcision (a.k.a. male genital mutilation), and also false accusations of rape, male victims of rape, and unfaithful wives "cuckoo for cocoa penis puffs," as one speaker would put it, plus "mangina" journalists who "cherry-pick" quotes such as "cuckoo for cocoa penis puffs" out of context.


Who wants to bet this speaker had a wife that left him for a Black guy?

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1StrongBlackMan

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9. Wow! Thanks MIRT ...
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 10:45 PM
Mar 2015

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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
2. Funny how those "red-pill moments" seem to all begin with being rejected by a woman.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:08 PM
Mar 2015


These idiots want to remain in perpetual blameless childhood while the rest of us deal with the grown-up stuff

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
3. Not man enough for the men and women at Style dot com
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:24 PM
Mar 2015

How dare I like the Gucci Fall 2015 Menswear collection! (Some call it feminine, but it also reminds me of what John Adams wore. If our founding fathers were too feminine then maybe we should be too.)

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
4. This is a surprisingly good explanation for the MRM.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:58 PM
Mar 2015

It'd be funny if it weren't terrifying. The part where whatshisname doesn't give a shit if his daugher was raped shook me up. These people are sociopaths, they have no empathy. It's fucked up.

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