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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:41 AM Aug 2012

Why Many Men Don’t Embrace Equality

Not long ago, I appeared on a television talk show opposite three “angry white males” who felt they had been the victims of workplace discrimination. The show’s title, no doubt to entice a large potential audience, was “A Black Woman Stole My Job.” Each of the men described how they were passed over for jobs or promotions for which they believed themselves qualified. Then it was my turn to respond. I said I had one question about one word in the title of the show. I asked them about the word “my.” Where did they get the idea it was “their” job? Why wasn’t the show called “A Black Woman Got a Job” or “A Black Woman Got the Job?”

These men felt the job was “theirs” because they felt entitled to it, and when some “other” person – black, female – got the job, that person was really taking what was “rightfully” theirs. “It seems like if you’re a white male you don’t have a chance,” commented a young man to then-New York Times columnist Anna Quindlen a decade ago. The young man went to a college where 5% of his classmates were black. “What the kid really meant is that he no longer has the edge,” she wrote of the encounter, that the rules of a system that may have served his father will have changed. It is one of those good-old-days constructs to believe it was a system based purely on merit, but we know that’s not true. It is a system that once favored him, and others like him. Now sometimes – just sometimes – it favors someone different.

I think it’s hard, really hard, to change that mindset. We were raised to be Don Drapers, Alpha males, casually, uncritically entitled to a gender order that is vertical, hierarchical. And now we feel we have to be more Al Gore-esque Beta-males, oriented to equality, horizontally.

But change we shall – and not just because it’s the right thing to do. It’s also in our interests to embrace gender equality. The empirical evidence is clear: at the corporate level, those companies that embrace diversity and enable everyone (including white men) to feel included and valued have lower rates of absenteeism and job turnover, and higher levels of job satisfaction and productivity. And personally, the more equal our relationships, the happier and healthier everyone will be.

http://thecurrentconscience.com/blog/

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Why Many Men Don’t Embrace Equality (Original Post) seabeyond Aug 2012 OP
I have wondered about this. MadrasT Aug 2012 #1
Yep, he summed it up well. redqueen Aug 2012 #4
Good article, especially about the rules changing hack89 Aug 2012 #2
hey, there is a pro football woman referee. and a woman in the baseball analyst broadcaster seabeyond Aug 2012 #3
Until women are at least half of SheilaT Aug 2012 #5
1+ ismnotwasm Aug 2012 #6
That's basically how I feel. n/t MadrasT Aug 2012 #7

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
1. I have wondered about this.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:20 AM
Aug 2012

To men -- especially white men -- does "equality" = "more competition" = "bad" ??

I hear a lot of chatter from white men that supports that some do think that is true.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
4. Yep, he summed it up well.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:04 PM
Aug 2012
Many men see gender equality as a zero sum game: if women win, men lose. There are only so many positions at the top, right? So if women get half of them, then there are fewer of them for us. Affirmative action, diversity awareness, and gender equality projects are thus seen as actively discriminating against men.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
2. Good article, especially about the rules changing
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:08 PM
Aug 2012

I was in the Navy when women first went to sea and I saw that fear and resentment up front. It took almost a decade but now it is not a big deal - there are women flag officers in charge of carrier battle groups so it is not to far in the future when there will be women at the very highest level of the military.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
3. hey, there is a pro football woman referee. and a woman in the baseball analyst broadcaster
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:13 PM
Aug 2012

two areas i had never thought about.

thanks for your story and reminder of the fear when first implemented and a decade later becoming a norm.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
5. Until women are at least half of
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:15 PM
Aug 2012

all management jobs, half of the Supreme Court, half of all legislators at all levels, half of all CEO's -- well you get the idea -- until those numbers are reached, then I'm not about to have any sympathy for some penis-holder thinking he's been discriminated against.

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