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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 05:58 PM Dec 2013

"Snowden & Greenwald: The Men Who Leaked the Secrets"/Great Background from "Rolling Stone"


Snowden and Greenwald: The Men Who Leaked the Secrets
How two alienated, angry geeks broke the story of the year"

For a man living in the middle of a John le Carré novel, Greenwald has a pretty good life. Based in Brazil since 2005, he lives about 10 minutes from the beach in the hills above Rio de Janeiro, in an airy, four-bedroom wood-and-glass house that backs directly into the jungle. There are monkeys, birds and a small waterfall, and with its sparse furnishing, the place has the feel of a treehouse. It also smells distinctly of dog – of which there are 10, rescued by Greenwald and his partner, David Miranda, whom Greenwald calls the "dog whisperer" for his Cesar Millan-like command over the pack. The dogs, which occupy every imaginable space there is, provide an ever-present backdrop to the couple's domesticity, following Greenwald and Miranda from room to room and, from time to time, breaking into exultant barks for no real reason (other than maybe just the fact that they live in paradise).

Contrary to his confrontational persona, Greenwald is actually quite sweet in person, apologizing for his car, a somewhat beat-up, doggy-smelling, red Kia with tennis clothes tossed in the back, and a Pink CD case on the dashboard that Greenwald, 46, is quick to explain belongs to Miranda, who is 28. "I still listen to all the stuff I liked in high school – Elton John, Queen," he says, shrugging, and then immediately wonders if it's weird that "music just never spoke to me all that much."

Politics, on the other hand, had a powerful hold on him from an early age. Originally from Queens, his family settled in South Florida, in the bland, cookie-cutter enclave of Lauderdale Lakes, then inhabited largely by ethnic, working-class families and wealthier Jewish retirees. The oldest of two, Greenwald was raised in a small house on the low-rent side of town, where his mother, "a typically 1960s-1970s housewife who married young and never went to college," as he says, ended up supporting her sons by working as a cashier at McDonald's, among other jobs.

Greenwald's childhood role model was his paternal grandfather, Louis "L.L." Greenwald, a local city councilman, and "sort of this standard 1930s Jewish socialist type," who crusaded on behalf of the poor against the voracious "condo bosses" who controlled the city. In high school, Greenwald ran a quixotic campaign for a city-council seat, which he lost, but not before scoring a "moral victory" by simply challenging his entrenched opponents. "The most important thing my grandfather taught me was that the most noble way to use your skills, intellect and energy is to defend the marginalized against those with the greatest power – and that the resulting animosity from those in power is a badge of honor."

This was useful advice for a gay teen growing up in the early 1980s, during the advent of AIDS, when "being gay was thought of, genuinely, as a disease, and so you just felt this condemnation and alienation and denunciation."

More at:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/snowden-and-greenwald-the-men-who-leaked-the-secrets-20131204?page=1

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"Snowden & Greenwald: The Men Who Leaked the Secrets"/Great Background from "Rolling Stone" (Original Post) KoKo Dec 2013 OP
Great post! Thanks. last1standing Dec 2013 #1
Recommended. Thanks for posting. Autumn Dec 2013 #2
DUrec for the Whistle Blowers. bvar22 Dec 2013 #3
Disconcerting development. proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #4
Great piece. Thanks, KoKo. hedda_foil Dec 2013 #5

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
1. Great post! Thanks.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 06:11 PM
Dec 2013

Too bad someone will likely be in here to jump on his "soapbox" calling them names like "Comrade Eddie" and making vaguely homophobic comments.

Regardless, thanks again.

K&R

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
3. DUrec for the Whistle Blowers.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 07:59 PM
Dec 2013

They are the protectors of our Democracy,
and true Patriots.


Rampant Government Secrecy and Democracy can NOT co-exist.


I hope I would have the courage to do what they did if I were in the same situation.
It would be SO much easier to just keep your mouth shut,
go with the program,
not make any waves,
collect the paycheck,
and spend the weekend at the beach.






proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
4. Disconcerting development.
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 08:20 PM
Dec 2013

On this subject, I defer judgement to VIPS (Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity), two members of which are possibly at odds, below.

http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/12/08/checkbook-journalism-leaking-to-the-highest-bidders/

Checkbook Journalism & Leaking to the Highest Bidders
SIBEL EDMONDS | DECEMBER 8, 2013


http://www.ellsberg.net/archive/edward-snowden

Edward Snowden: Saving Us from the United Stasi of America
by DANIEL ELLSBERG on JUNE 10, 2013

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
5. Great piece. Thanks, KoKo.
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 12:22 AM
Dec 2013

BTW, you anti Greenwald folks. This pretty definitely trashes your blather that Greenwald is a Libertarian, as in Libertarian party aka anarchists and Kochocrats. He's a Civil Libertarian, which means he's an avid defender of the Bill of Rights. Civil libertarians are, by definition, antiauthoritarian LEFTISTS.

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