Sen. Bob Grahm-"Investigating the Saudi Govt's "9/11" Connection & Path to Dissillusionment"

[KoKo]

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On RAI with Paul Jay, Senator Bob Graham explains why he persists in making the case that facts directly connect the Saudi government with 9/11 conspirators - December 2, 13 ( PART 1 of 4 Part Interview at the Real News Network)

Former U.S. Senator Bob Graham says greater awareness of Saudi Arabia as “essentially a co-conspirator in 9/11...would change the way in which, particularly in the current milieu of events in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia is being viewed” by the U.S. public.

Saudi Arabia, an historic ally of the U.S., had put significant pressure on the Obama administration in recent months to militarily intervene in Syria, and had also attempted to derail recent U.S.-Iran rapprochement.

Senator Graham co-chaired the Congressional Joint Inquiry into 9/11 that investigated intelligence failures leading up to 9/11. The inquiry’s final report included a 28-page chapter describing the Saudi connection to 9/11, but it was completely redacted by U.S. intelligence agencies.

“I was stunned that the intelligence community would feel that it was a threat to national security for the American people to know who had made 9/11 financially possible,” said Senator Graham. “And I am sad to report that today, some 12 years after we submitted our report, that those 28 pages continue to be withheld from the public.”

The investigation into 9/11 intelligence failures and the subsequent cover-up of Saudi involvement by the Bush administration led Senator Graham to question his life-long reverence of presidential authority.

“I grew up with the idea that the president was almost a divine figure, that he was the literally the father of the country and always acted in a way that was beneficial to the mass of people in America,” said Graham. “You may have disagreements with the current occupant of the office, but the presidency itself was a beknighted position deserving of your respect and worthy of your confidence.”

“So when I got involved particularly at the national level in the U.S. Senate and saw some of the things that were happening—which were not theoretical; they were things that I was dealing with on a very day-to-day hands-on basis that were contrary to that view of what was the presidency—it was a very disillusioning experience. And maybe some of the comments that I make in the book Intelligence Matters reflect that path to disillusionment,” said Graham.

TRANSCRIPT AND YT's of PARTS 1-4 at the LINK...(Seasoned "9/11'ers" will enjoy Part 4)

[BelgianMadCow]

1. Einfach aufstehen - nicht mehr wegsehen

Ich will nicht mehr schweigen
Diese revolution ist die Evolution
in einer kranken-kalten Welt

Ich fühle mich oft
wie Frodo und das Auge

[KoKo]

3. Yes......

I can see him... with my waking eyes! Sam: Then let us be rid of it... once and for all! Come on, Mr. Frodo. I can't carry it for you... but I can carry you! Sam: FRODO ...

[BelgianMadCow]

4. Well, this is gonna get cryptic without the video, but

yes, the scene you mention - Always grips me. Like this one:

startting at 1.50 in:

Samwise: "I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here. But we are. It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come.

And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something, even if you were too small to understand why.
But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something."

Frodo: What are we holding onto, Sam?

Sam: That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo... and it's worth fighting for.

[KoKo]

10. That's some powerful message in that video clip

and your snip of the dialogue.

Thanks!

[KoKo]

2. You Tube VIDEO IS FIXED!

Sorry...some other music video came up before.

[BelgianMadCow]

5. Note: now you've lost the link to TRNN ;-)

[KoKo]

7. What WAS THAT..that hacked "RNN" Site?

I deleted it...so don't know about TRINN...except what I googled..and it seems to be a site critical of Paul Jay?

Read Fast...might not have gotten what the "whole site's objectives are." The video was kind of interesting..but I didn't stay with it for full view...figuring it was a hack thing.

Since...it was a Music Video...that came up with my original link for the "RNN" link, which was not the URL I had posted... and when I realized I got rid of it.

[BelgianMadCow]

6. On topic: I think this thread also needs info on Bob Graham's "fiction" book, Keys to the Kingdom

Thread with all four videos of the full interview here.

You'll note that Sen. Graham basically says: "Whatever I can't say, I've written as a fiction book." That book is called Keys to the Kingdom.

I haven't read it, but here's an excerpt, note that Governor Billington happens to be a retired senator from Florida that sat on an intelligence committee, like Graham, iow Billington = Graham. Billington writes the following as an Op-Ed in the book:

The congressional inquiry into the 9/11 attacks left several secrets unanswered. The top three are Saudi Arabia’s full role in the preparation for and the execution of the plot; the kingdom’s willingness and capacity to collaborate in future terrorist actions against the United States; and why this and the prior administration conducted a cover-up that thus far has frustrated finding the answers to the first two questions.

I think Bob Graham is trying to tell us something.

[KoKo]

8. I do also. But, not sure about it all.

Way back he was urged to speak out (during that time when Internet was lively about "9/11&quot .. and there was lots of discussion before everything got co-opted into "Truthers/Alex Jones" and "CT" Push Back to classify folks who didn't believe what was the "Official Story" about "9/11" into some kind of "Conspiracy Theory Box" that they would never get out of.

So...one wonders about Bob Grahm ...if his conscience has dogged him so much over these years that he's finally pushing further. Or, is there something else.

I don't think that we can know that now...so it's good to hear Bob's version again with more details than before leading to a "hopeful" re-openingof "9/11." I guess when "Pigs Fly" that might happen...but Grahm is hopeful about this.

Note...my skepticism.

[KoKo]

9. I watched all of the interviews before I posted..and Thanks for the Billington

Link: I did dislike Billington singling out Hezbollah in this fashion in what he says. I wonder his own agenda in this.


Here's what he says...and I found a bit concerning as to what his agenda is in his cautionary comments. I think their concern about surrogates is interesting...but, that Hezbollah is singled out as a possible "rogue" who could have influence with this...makes me worry that it's more weighted towards the side of defending Israel and not the comprehensive peace process that we are hoping will calm down the "ME" Situation.

Graham is also involved in Commission on WMD Proliferation...and so he has strong interest in this...but also money to be made and influence.

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From Link to Billington in "Keys to the Kingdom:"

Surrogates of nation-states and even surrogates of other terrorist organizations are becoming more restive, unwilling to supinely comply with dictates of their former masters. Hezbollah, the Lebanese-based paramilitary organization, which has now become a political party and vacillates between being part of the governing coalition in Lebanon and being its primary opposition, is the premier example of this greater independence.

The potential danger of this independence is captured in the reality that no nation-state would be so irrational as to deliver a weapon of mass destruction bearing its home address, real or virtual. The United States has a policy of nuclear annihilation should a nuclear weapon be detonated here or against an ally or U.S. interest abroad. While it may be an oxymoron, a “rational state” that decides to use a weapon of mass destruction would try to keep its hands clean by leaving the dirty work of delivery to a surrogate. Thus WMDs will likely be transferred to groups such as Hezbollah that in turn will exercise a significant, if not singular, role in the decisions of when and against whom to use them.