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Mon Mar 23, 2015, 05:38 PM

We need to discover who replaced Hillary Clinton With a much further left Clone or imposter

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I am concerned for her safety, as no one changes so much, so quickly from beig a center right authoritarian minded Democrat to being a near communist, even further left than a Kucinich populist.

I suspect foul play and possibly murder unless she is being held captive somewhere.

Exhibit A, a graph that placed Hillary Clinton on the right left spectrum that was circulated during her last inevitable pending election as POTUS.



This chart was found where people have always gone to test oneself on the spectrum, the utility has been used since at least 2001:
https://www.politicalcompass.org/

Exhibit B: a graph of dubious authorship that does not appear to use any traditional methodology with poles that make litle sense used to describe Hilary on her current inevitable Presidential victory.



It is clear to me since neoliberals and hyper-partisans would never, ever mislead us about their favored candidates that something truly foul is a foot, and either Mrs Clinton is dead having been replaced by a Communist doppelganger, or she is being held somewhere under duress while an impostor is taking her place for this time when she will inevitably win the Presidency again.

Please help, I may not agree with her center right politics, but I am very concerned about her as a person. We need to rescue her wherever she may be.

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Reply We need to discover who replaced Hillary Clinton With a much further left Clone or imposter (Original post)
Dragonfli Mar 2015 OP
bvar22 Mar 2015 #1
Dragonfli Mar 2015 #4
nxylas Mar 2015 #2
Dragonfli Mar 2015 #6
bananas Mar 2015 #3
bvar22 Mar 2015 #5
djean111 Mar 2015 #7
GoneFishin Mar 2015 #8
dreamnightwind Mar 2015 #9
Dragonfli Mar 2015 #10
NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #11
Faryn Balyncd Mar 2015 #12
Scuba Mar 2015 #13
Enthusiast Mar 2015 #15
Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #14

Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 06:02 PM

1. DURec

and a kick for exposure.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 06:15 PM

4. Thank you, this OP is couched in humor but I really weant all hands on deck

To discover the origins of the Vanilla Rhapsody chart, what group produced it (their ideology and possible motives), how does it twist data to achieve the results it does and a one sentence (if possible) answer that can be used to disprove it conclusively every time it is trotted out for the purpose of misleading voters.

I do not believe that chart is either an accident of miscalculation or an innocent mistake of some kind, I believe it to be propaganda with origins that are most likely unsavory if not outright libertarian or full on right wing ratfucking (to use a favorite term of those that favor this bit of misinformation).

Any help from the group I believe would help us all with this bit of dishonesty. It is dangerous because some just take it at face value because it appears designed to look like the real thing thus spoofing the truth to tell a lie.

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 06:10 PM

2. K&R

The "right authoritarian" quadrant looks very crowded in that graph compared to all the others.

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Response to nxylas (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 06:27 PM

6. That is to be expected in US politics as that is where the money is

I would consider us extremely lucky to have a candidate that is even a fraction to the left of center and just a fraction below authoritarian.

The public is most assuredly not in the same quadrant as most of our politicians, also I would wager that those at least in the progressive populist group would chart far to the left of the bank and war profiteering employees we call politicians.

Just for fun, take the test to see what I mean. I tested about where Kucinich was last time I did it in '08, I may have moved even further left since then, perhaps I will take it again.

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 06:15 PM

3. k&r nt

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 06:18 PM

5. This belongs on the Greatest Page.

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 07:13 PM

7. Great chart!!!!!!!! Thank you!

 

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 07:29 PM

8. K & R

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 07:46 PM

9. This chart?


http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/hillary_clinton.htm

What a joke. She is apparently as far left as Bernie Sanders on economic issues.


http://ontheissues.org/Senate/Bernie_Sanders.htm

I have no words.

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Response to dreamnightwind (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 07:57 PM

10. Yes thats the one, I am also trying to discover which think tank came up with it

Nothing about it makes sense, when deciding on liberal/left, it appears to only use social issues, and I have yet to get the whole libertarian populist thing as they are not related in a way that such a chart labors to suggest.

I smell right wing think tank, possibly libertarian if not 'bagger (or the new right sponsored by the investment bankers that fund third way). The entire thing appears to be just a tool to spoof a real chart in order to make people appear to be whatever the designers intended. Thanks for the link, I will place the graphic and hopefully we can find out who authored the methodology used to twist reality in such a specific way.

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:26 PM

11. I don't trust "ontheissues" to be a trustworthy source.

 

They certainly aggregate factoids, but I am suspect of the filters they employ and the selections that they make and their omissions.

It's probably funded by someone friendly to certain interests.

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:28 PM

12. You smell right. (They label her a "former New York Democrat Senator" instead of using English.)




You would think a RW propaganda sham posing as "On the Issues" would be able to refrain from using Republican lingo for as long as they were posing, but these folks just can't help themselves.







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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 24, 2015, 06:22 AM

13. Nice catch.

 

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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 06:22 AM

15. Yup. They cannot help themselves.

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Response to Dragonfli (Original post)

Tue Mar 24, 2015, 06:50 AM

14. Stolen from the onion and changed

—Announcing her 2016 presidential bid before thousands of wall street workers at some Bank, Hillary Clinton boldly declared Monday that the nation had done absolutely nothing to deserve a better candidate than herself.

“I want you to take a good, hard look at me, America, because this is exactly what you’ve got coming,” said Hilary, adding that the country was kidding itself if it thought it was worthy of higher-quality leadership than exactly what she was prepared to offer.

“Deep down, you know you’ve got no business supporting anyone else. I’m all you’re entitled to, so just give me your vote and watch what happens. You earned it.” Hillary went on to say that, in some ways, she might actually be a better candidate than the nation deserved.

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