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djean111

(14,255 posts)
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 10:17 AM Apr 2015

Decertify Democratic Progressive Caucus of Florida, Urges Party Leader

http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/story/decertify-democratic-progressive-caucus-florida-urges-party-leader

Democrats close to Florida party leadership are buzzing over the bold call Monday from Democratic progressives to replace senatorial candidate Patrick Murphy with Alan Grayson -- and an equally bold, retaliatory call the very next day from a party executive chair to disband the Democratic Progressive Caucus of Florida.

Fuming over the attempt to sabotage FDP's choice to run for Marco Rubio's seat, Celeste Bush, DEC chair of St. Lucie County, said in an email distributed Tuesday, "Yesterday an unprecedented action was taken by Susan Smith, (president) of the 'Democratic' Progressive Caucus and Nancy Jacobson, an elected DNC member. "They called a press conference to discredit Congressman Patrick Murphy’s run for U.S. Senate. You may have seen some of the news stories."

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"This action runs counter to our Democratic Party’s very existence," wrote Bush. "We cannot have 'so called' Democrat leaders aggressively attacking an elected Democrat or any Democrat running for office. A Democratic leader is just that – a leader of Democrats – not just some Democrats that fit a preconceived notion of what constitutes a Democrat."

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"The experiment with having a “Democratic” Progressive Caucus has obviously failed. They have assumed power they do not have. ... Susan declared that the progressives were the grassroot, foot soldiers of the party and that without them we would have trouble electing Democrats. She stated that her caucus was the bridge that tied the progressives to the Democrats. I would say that it was a 'Bridge Too Far!'


This was characterized as "fantasy" in another thread. By those who are all fucking fluttery about being called operatives.

This, IMO, illustrates just how much in contempt Progressives are regarded in this new Corporate Third Way Party.
The "Democratic" label has become meaningless.
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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
3. This has Debbie Wasserman Schiltz fingerprints
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:46 AM
Apr 2015

The GOP should pay thre Florida Demcoratic party to run. It does a much better job of keeping GOP in power than the GOP ever could.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
5. What this says to me is that all of the condescending directives to Work Within Your Party
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:20 PM
Apr 2015

if you don't want Third Wayers is bullshit. The DNC will only back the Third Way types. And if they happen to win, of course they govern/legislate like, um, Third Wayers.

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
6. Is disbanding (decertifying)
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:05 PM
Apr 2015

the FDP's way of throwing progressives out of the party.

Could that work in reverse? Can you decertify individuals?

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
7. Decertifying, I think, just means there is no more Progressive group, and everyone is expected to
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:44 PM
Apr 2015

work for the politician the party has chosen. No primary, no choice.
I would love to see Grayson run. Looks like the Party will make sure he does not. This is the little gotcha behind those condescending work within the party remarks - in many cases, the party already has a chosen one and that is who gets the money and the backing. The game is most certainly rigged.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
10. "some Dems want Dems to act like Dems, instead of just doing whatever nets the most money.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:39 PM
Apr 2015

if we don't have money we won't win! bringing criteria and standards and what actual people need into the mix will hurt everyone in the long run. keep pulling that lever and remember, if we lose the Republicans will win, and pass policies that we would have: you wouldn't want THAT on your conscience, would you?"

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
16. "if we don't have money we won't win" That's just not true
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 06:29 PM
Apr 2015

If we don't get out the vote, we won't win, and we can do that on a shoe string budget, IF WE GIVE THE PEOPLE A REASON TO TURN OUT.

All the money in the world didn't/couldn't buy Romney the Presidency.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
11. For years, the state organizations in FL & elsewhere have become shells...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:14 PM
Apr 2015

with only enough power to dissuade or drive out anyone to the left of Eisenhower. It's not a Florida thing (except for the sectarian culture warriors), it's a Democratic Party thing.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
12. Alan Grayson was one of the few Florida success stories
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 09:14 PM
Apr 2015

A democrat that beat a GOP, in a state where Charlie Crost fizzled, yet Debbie refuses to support Alan. She is NOT interested in helping Democrats win, as it is about securing HER power base, which is done by offering the GOP at least 60 percent of whatever they want and sayign we should be thankful it was not 99.999 percent.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
13. And I am supposed to vote for these people. They make me nauseous.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 09:20 PM
Apr 2015

My Democratic Senator, Nelson, co-sponsored Corker's bill. I will not be voting for him ever again because he is not actually a Democrat. IMO. I did send him an email about that.

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