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Tue Apr 14, 2015, 08:46 AM

General Dissusion is now.................

''This is the Hillary Clinton Room. Only posts supporting Hillary

Clinton are allowed. Please delete your dumb, sarcastic post.''


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026504013#post4

post number 4.........................

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Reply General Dissusion is now................. (Original post)
Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 OP
mylye2222 Apr 2015 #1
yallerdawg Apr 2015 #2
aspirant Apr 2015 #3
Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #4
yallerdawg Apr 2015 #5
Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #7
aspirant Apr 2015 #6
L0oniX Apr 2015 #8
Romeo.lima333 Apr 2015 #9
Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #10
L0oniX Apr 2015 #11
Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #13
1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #14
Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #16
1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #17
1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #18
Post removed Apr 2015 #19
1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #20
Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #21
1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #22
KoKo Apr 2015 #25
1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #28
KoKo Apr 2015 #30
1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #32
KoKo Apr 2015 #33
1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #34
NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #26
1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #31
Geronimoe Apr 2015 #12
1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #15
mylye2222 Apr 2015 #23
edgineered Apr 2015 #24
stone space Apr 2015 #27
tridim Apr 2015 #29

Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 08:59 AM

1. Im afraid all site will become Notjing Values Expect Hillary

 

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 09:13 AM

2. Is this the political correctness we hear so much about?

Nothing like 2008.

Shit happens.

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 09:20 AM

3. Just a room without a niew,

nothing more nothing less.

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 09:27 AM

4. Well, doesn't the ToS say we all have to line up behind the nominee

as soon as it becomes apparent who it will be?

I imagine a lot of people on here already think it's reached that point, as soon as she announced.

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 09:35 AM

5. And I will absolutely and wholeheartedly support the Democratic nominee.

Just like every other time.

We just aren't there yet, are we?

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 09:55 AM

7. That was my point.

To the sort of people who are already going around telling people to fall in line, it already appears to have reached that point.

I also disagree, as you do, but expect that sort of post from here on out from some folks.

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 09:37 AM

6. If HRC becomes the nominee

wouldn't that be the ideal time to focus on our Populist candidates, federal to local, to bolster their support and GOTV?

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 10:14 AM

8. I'll be spending a lot more time over on DI where we can say what we want about Hillary...

 

without the alert swarm.

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 10:16 AM

9. that's funny

 

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 10:17 AM

10. What's DI?

I already post more on socialist forums and real progressive blogs

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 10:23 AM

11. http://www.discussionist.com/

 

It's actually calmed down quite a bit ...most of the super dumb assholes have been banned.

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #11)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 10:39 AM

13. thanks n/t

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 10:40 AM

14. Think about that for a second ...

 



I bet I can think of a bunch of other sites where you "can say what we want about Hillary... without the alert swarm." You'd probably even be welcome ... and if you announced your progressiveness ... they'd probably buy you a drink.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #14)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 10:45 AM

16. Yet you defend that GD post

and attack progressives here

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #16)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 10:53 AM

17. Where have I defended "that GD Post"? ...

 

Please link to it, or be an adult and apologize.

And regarding my attacking progressives, I will re-post my clarification:

It has occurred to me, perhaps, I should clarify my statement. You will note that whenever I reference "progressive", I consistently place the word in quotations, or preface/modify the word "DU" ... there is a reason why I do this. Specifically, I do it to segment out/separate out, the political progressives from those that seem to have taken root in DU; but, consistently demonstrate a clear distain for the Democratic Party, and more, those that make up its base.

If you find yourself advocating income equality AND championing sacrificing the poor and working classes (i.e., "Let's go over the fiscal cliff!"; then, you are the "progressives" that have no real political home ... at least, not in the Democratic Party.

If you find yourself advocating income equality AND championing sacrificing PoC, women, and the LGBT community (i.e., "Income Equality IS the most important issue of our time"; then, you are the "progressives" that have no real political home ... at least, not in the Democratic Party.

If you find yourself advocating a set of policy goals that begins with "IF" (and that "IF" involves a series of unlikely occurrences) AND criticize Democratic policies (established in the current political environment), as inadequate; but, in their imperfection, do benefit the majority of the poor and working classes (i.e., the ACA, Executive Orders, etc.); then, you are the "progressives" that have no real political home ... at least, not in the Democratic Party.

If you find yourself spending the vast majority of your posts (especially during election season), criticizing Democrats, Democratic candidates, and "other" Democrats for supporting Democrats and/or Democratic candidates; then, you are the "progressives" that have no real political home ... at least, not in the Democratic Party.

If you look into your soul; but more, your actions, and can say the above does not apply to you ... then, you are not the "progressives" that have no real political home ... and are welcome members of the Democratic Party (even when you claim "Democrat", as your 3rd or 4th political descriptor).


Does that clarify things?

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #16)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 11:10 AM

18. I'm waiting ...

 

But I really don't expect you to admit that you pulled that out your hind-quarters.

It must be tough having someone point out that there is a reason that you get support for/little push-back on your anti-HRC/anti-Democratic rantings on that other site ... YOU ARE WORKING TOWARDS THE SAME ENDS!



(And yes ... I am laughing AT you!)

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Tue Apr 14, 2015, 11:18 AM

20. Still laughing at you ...

 

I will post where I like (or until the hosts see fit to block/ban me), Thank you! (BTW, I think I have only posted once in the HRC Group ... it's not a place I frequent.)

Now care to address the crap you pulled out you butt? ETA: I will, graciously, let you off the hook for the apology, as a recognize you are emotional unable to do so.)

Or, how about my clarification ... I'll wait!

(Still laughing at you!)

ETA: I think my clarification IS/COULD BE a valuable mirror for this group. Far more valuable to, and consistent with, the Group's purpose of "To discuss(ing) and debat(ing) issues, candidates, and strategies related to the promotion of progressive, populist reforms within the Democratic Party", than the constant ranting and outrage. (Others may, differ.)

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #20)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 11:20 AM

21. We know where you stand

and its not progressive.........

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #21)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 11:37 AM

22. If being (DU) "progressive" means ...

 

advocating income equality AND championing sacrificing the poor and working classes (i.e., "Let's go over the fiscal cliff!"; and/or, advocating income equality AND championing sacrificing PoC, women, and the LGBT community (i.e., "Income Equality IS the most important issue of our time"; and/or, advocating a set of policy goals that begins with "IF" (and that "IF" involves a series of unlikely occurrences) AND criticize Democratic policies (established in the current political environment), as inadequate; but, in their imperfection, do benefit the majority of the poor and working classes (i.e., the ACA, Executive Orders, etc.); and/or, spending the vast majority of your posts (especially during election season), criticizing Democrats, Democratic candidates, and "other" Democrats for supporting Democrats and/or Democratic candidates, as has been presented by DU "progressives"; then, ...

you are quite correct ... I am in no way a DU "progressive"!

Thank the universe!

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #22)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 12:30 PM

25. Why are you posting in this Group then?

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Response to KoKo (Reply #25)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 12:46 PM

28. Because I would like to believe there are ...

 

Progressives on DU, and particularly in this Group, that do not fall into the above-described category ... that wish to reform the Democratic Party, as the purpose represents.

But more, I would like to seek/discuss convincingly workable plans to move American politics further to the Left than this current administration has taken us.

Is that Okay?

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #28)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 12:52 PM

30. You offensively attacked a Group Member here and made disparaging remarks about other posters

who are "Progessive." Nothing in your posts spoke about..your quote:


"But more, I would like to seek/discuss convincingly workable plans to move American politics further to the Left than this current administration has taken us."

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Response to KoKo (Reply #30)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 01:05 PM

32. Perhaps you might want to start the ...

 

Exchange timeliness a bit sooner ... like when I was engaged by a false allegation (and not for the first time by my partner in the exchange).

I will refrain from addressing the "attacks" because I have been warned off by, and out of respect for, a/the Host.

Now ... can we discuss convincing and workable plans to move American politics further to the Left than the current Administration has taken us?

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #32)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 01:10 PM

33. You might start with reading the already posted OP's and Replies in this Group

for background of the issues members here feel are important.

If you have your own plans that you would like to see discussed then you should post them in an OP.

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Response to KoKo (Reply #33)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 01:40 PM

34. Are there any OPs discussing plans for ...

 

Moving American politics further to the Left than the current Administration has?

I guess I'll take your advice and start my own.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #22)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 12:35 PM

26. Dear 1StrongBlackMan:

 

As a host, I'm going to ask you to be civil to other members who come to this protected group not to bicker but to share productive ideas and, at times, to vent about matters that frustrate us in the search for a better party.

Fights with other members, challenges, mocking, and rofl emoticons really aren't consistent with our purpose.

If you wish, please feel free to simply post your definition of a real "progressive" and be done with it.

Otherwise, please disengage from this particular battle, which would be more appropriate to GD or Politics or another group, but not this one.

Best regards,

NYC_SKP

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #26)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 12:53 PM

31. Will do.

 

But I must note ... the exchange did not begin with me, though I will own, and therefore, sincerely, apologize for my part of the exchange.

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 10:33 AM

12. Hope and mindlessness is not what founded America

 

The Hillbots communities are forming and funded by Goldman Sachs, all haters not welcome.

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Response to Geronimoe (Reply #12)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 10:42 AM

15. "Hillbots communities"??? ...

 

It's going to be a long 18 months.

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 12:02 PM

23. I have posted an OP re. French pundits wiews of your last candidates...

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026505082

One asked evidence... implying I was lying....



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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 12:19 PM

24. That's bad. After her first Executive Edict, er, Order - Executive Order

things will be back to normal. Until then me must do and say as we are being shown, democratic processes be damned.

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 12:46 PM

27. Looks like an innocient mistake to me.

 

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 12:51 PM

29. I'm not allowed to post in the special HRC forum

Because I'm not special or something.

Well actually I was banned 6 months ago because I asked for details about someone's prediction/guess about something loosely related to Clinton's potential presidential run. They had no details, and I got banned. Genius.

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