Does vaping weed have the same health risks as e-cigs?

[BigmanPigman]

Is that also true for weed cartridges?

[Phoenix61]

1. Most of the incidents I've read about

were vaping weed.

[Eyeball_Kid]

29. Nope.

There is an oil that’s used on the vaping solutions for liquid vaping. That oil is causing respiratory problems. This was according to an article on last Sunday’s NYT. While that oil might or might not be an ingredient in THC vaping solutions, there is no such oil when vaping cannabis flowers.

[Phoenix61]

33. They found vitamin E oil in THC solutions.

Not saying it should be there, just that it was in some of the solutions that caused illness.

[BigmanPigman]

35. Yes, that is what I heard, Vit E is OK to take as a supplement or in food

but they say smoking changes it. I wanted to know if this applied to weed/THC as well as cigs.

[Phoenix61]

39. I haven't heard they found vitamin E in cigs.

Last I heard, it’s an adulterant being added to stretch the amount of fluid. But not in e-cig fluid.

[CentralMass]

38. There is vaping the flower (pot buds)is vaping liquid THC products. Vaping weed implies the former.

[5X]

2. IMHO one should only use these type of vaporizers...

https://www.420science.com/collections/flower-vapes

its the e-liquids that they have had a problem with.

[brewens]

3. This Rolling Stone report is a few days old. It looks like the culprit may be a cutting

agent used by shady manufacturers. That they started using it very recently makes sense. Vitamin E acetate.
I'm hoping they determine it has only been that causing the problem. Then I'd know my Willies Reserve is still safe to use.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/thc-carts-vitamin-e-oil-880917/

[hlthe2b]

4. Honestly, if I were going to use, I'd go with edibles right now.

While it is the wild wild west in terms of regulation of concentration in any of these products, at least one can take steps to avoid contaminants in edibles and pretty much self-calibrate your "dose."

Why smoke/vape if you don't "have" to, given the uncertainties?

[pbmus]

5. Prohibition cause illegal operations to proliferate...

These unregulated operators use illegal and dangerous chemicals...

If you are buying from a legal dispensary, you are ok...

But if you are buying on the street...throw it away.

[BigmanPigman]

7. Yes, I go to a legal dispensary

and pay a lot in taxes from the city and state (31% total). It's good to know that these products are OK to use...I need it for medical reasons. Wouldn't it be nice if my health insur paid for it?

Thanks for the info!!!

[Thunderbeast]

8. One of the Oregon deaths was linked to a legal dispensary.

I want more answers before I touch my (legal) oil-based vape pen again.

Sad...I really enjoy the simple, discreet delivery method. Edibles are great, but they take two hours! No perfect world I suppose.

[pbmus]

10. My cartridges list all ingredients on cartridge packages...

If it is a legal dispensary in Illinois that is law, you have to disclose all ingredients...

You can then determine if there are any harmful ingredients.

It is a stick on label which I remove and place on my vape pen...so that I know which product I am consuming, sativa or whatever...

The guy in Oregon could have altered his cartridge and added ingredients...

Many users are adding different oils and even nicotine...

[Eyeball_Kid]

30. Options exist

I have a battery operated “pipe” with a thermostat- controlled mechanism that vapes the herb. Works great. Portable, odorless, and discreet. But you can detect the terpine fragrance on the first few draws.

[EmeraldCoaster]

6. NO

I hope not!

[JoeOtterbein]

9. I was told to look for a serial number on the cartridge. If there is none, don't use.

I only buy PAX products for vaping. You can turn the temp way down on the Era, and they have really great service.

[TheRealNorth]

11. Unfortunately, the entire industry is pretty poorly regulated

I would be cautious and not stray from the brand name products that at least have a track record.

[pbmus]

13. Not true in Illinois...the industry is highly regulated..

With monthly visits and testing...including all ingredients and levels of thc, cbd, etc.

By the way, that Disinformation of not regulated is exactly what Prohibitionists want to proliferate....weed madness

[JoeOtterbein]

14. Same in PA.

Right now we have a shortage of flower in the state. So i've been leaning on the PAX Brownie Scout Pods lately.

[mountain grammy]

27. Same in CO.

[TheRealNorth]

32. I was talking about the vaping industry

Not legalized marijuana

[pbmus]

34. Vaping oils and nicotine is totally different than marijuana vaping cartridges...

[walkingman]

12. I think the dry herb vapes are OK (at least I hope so) you are just heating the flower.

[Marcuse]

15. Yes. Just boil the THC out of the flower well below F 451. No combustion. No extract. Less toxins.

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[garybeck]

23. bingo. there is

so much confusion out there. none of the articles mention that you can safely vape the dry herb. people are getting really confused.

i agree the concentrates are bad news

but vaping dry herb is the way to go!

[Eyeball_Kid]

31. IMO, they're fine and not related to the current problem.

[newblewtoo]

16. Ok I may be paranoid as ever but...

I still remember the paraquat era. Do I still not trust the government. Yup. Now it may be paranoia, but I wouldn't put anything past the people currently in power. If you missed the '70's here is an article which speaks to what went on back then.

https://www.nytimes.com/1978/11/19/archives/poisonous-fallout-from-the-war-on-marijuana-paraquat.html

I know, paranoia strikes deep, but I literally quit back then and never looked back.

[pbmus]

17. Yeh well, there is still roundup in every store in America...

That’s why I grew my own or bought from someone who did...never bought paraquat pot, but knew of some that did...nasty shit

[mucifer]

18. All the reports I heard said the weed cartridges have the vitamin e that is causing a lot

of damage do edibles instead or even smoke it in a bong or paper like we did in college.

What is so great about vaping anyway??

[pbmus]

19. Small, easily access, no combustion....

I vape almost everywhere you can imagine....cannot just carry my bong to the movies...

[garybeck]

22. consider vaping dry herb, not concentrates

you still get no combustion but you don't have to inhale the binder

[pbmus]

28. I do and have 3 methods of vaping....but again...

Little difficult to carry my volcano into the theatre...hard enough getting my water bottle in...

[garybeck]

42. there are portable dry-herb vapes out there

i love my Airizer Air

https://arizer.com/air/

[mucifer]

25. Ok makes sense. Gonna be legal in my state Illinois soon. I might do it

might just get an occasional edible.

[garybeck]

21. vaping dry herb (not cartridges) is fine. n/t

[garybeck]

20. explanation:

there are different kinds of vaping.

1) if you are vaping the concentrates, oils, cartridges, .... that product is produced by mixing in other substances to bind with the THC or CBD. this can be vitamin E or a petroleum product like butane, or other unknown STUFF that isn't good for you. this applies to tobacco products too. so avoid the concentrates and the cartridges.

2) you can vape (vaporize) dry herb/flowers. this is totally different and actually WAY better for you than smoking. the material is the same stuff you've been putting in your pipe. you just put it in a "dry-herb vaporizer" and instead of lighting it on fire (and inhaling the fumes from your lighter) it just passes warm air over the material, which is good enough to capture the THC or CBD that you are after. there is no combustion and you avoid inhaling carcinogens that are produced when there is actual burning/combustion.

so my advice is to NOT VAPE CONCENTRATES that come in a cartridge. BAD SHIT!

but absolutely VAPE THE DRY HERB.

you need the proper tool for that. google "dry herb vaporizer" and you'll find lots of products and reviews and comparisons.

hope that helps

[BigmanPigman]

36. I didn't know you could even vape flower.

I guess I will have to watch a video to learn how to do it and how much the new products to vape flowers will cost me.

[garybeck]

41. this guide...

https://www.reddit.com/r/vaporents/wiki/new-vapers-guide

[BigmanPigman]

37. I just googled it and the prices have a wide range...

$60, $70, $250, $320, etc.

Is this one of those things where you DO get what you pay for? The star rating reviews gave the cheapest one a 1/2 star less rating than the expensive one so they were both excellent. Why such a difference in prices? Any ideas?

[garybeck]

40. i did a ton of research before i bought mine....

they are not all the same. some differences include:

convection heating vs conduction heating
how long the battery lasts
portable vs desktop

i spent $109 and i'm very happy with it. i got this one:

https://arizer.com/air/

there is a really good "buying guide" on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/vaporents/wiki/new-vapers-guide

[BigmanPigman]

43. Thanks!

Now I have to do my homework. I don't even know how you get the weed in that thing.

[eShirl]

24. vape weed, not "weed" extract cartridges,

is my dubious advice on the internet

[sanatanadharma]

26. My dubious anecdotal experience supports whole flower dry herb safety

Now and for the past five years this 73 year old has been daily vaping about one gram from morning to night, Mon-Sun.
I am in excellent health and walk everywhere.
The five years mentioned were preceded by four plus decades of use.
Don't smoke

[samnsara]

44. no..I sure hope not! I love my PAX and my Silver Surfer

[samnsara]

45. so vaping, cartridges and e cigs have been on the market for years...

...why this cluster of illness now? whats changed?

[BigmanPigman]

46. Melania's son is the reason,

at least that is what the fucking moron said. He referred to his own kid as "Melania's son". What an ass. Since she "Really does care" (remember her jacket?) she is sincerely concerned about vaping all of a sudden. Basically she is looking for any irrelevant issue to put her name as a "concerned first lady" after she dug up Michelle Obama's healthy W House garden. What total BS!