Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumI seldom post but this just pissed me off.
Just heard a clip on CNN, that was Deje Vu. Al Hunt asked Sanders at his breakfast meeting today about concerns of Clinton supporters, regarding rumors of Sanders Campaign bussing in out of state voters for Iowa caucus. I tried to find a clip but couldn't it was just on CNN.
I had a memory of the same type of accusation towards Obama regarding college students in 2008. The Clinton Campaign seems to be using their 2008 playbook and we all know how well that worked.
The headlines say the latest schism among the top Democratic presidential candidates is over gender and race. But on the ground in the presidential season's opening states, there is a darker narrative: that Hillary Clinton will not just fight hard, but fight dirty, to win. And her tactic of choice is attempting to suppress the votes of her rival's supporters.......
And in Iowa, the Clinton campaign -- with the help of the state's largest newspaper, the Des Moines Register, which endorsed her -- was discouraging students from returning from winter break to vote, even though their right to do so was legal, said Rick Hasen, who writes a respected election law blog. "Indeed such voting could help to compensate for the otherwise anti-democratic nature of Iowa's role in the presidential election process," he said.
http://www.alternet.org/story/73782/hillary_clinton's_dirty_campaign_tactics
They are making it harder and harder every day for me to want to vote for Clinton if she should get the nomination.
edited to add the clip that aired on CNN tonight.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-28/sanders-says-he-ll-struggle-to-win-iowa-with-low-voter-turnout
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)which is heresy in some quarters here - but how many more times are we supposed to just put up, shut up and vote for the lesser of two evils? I think push is coming to shove very soon.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Just in case.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)And then I heard about this, and that kickstarted the fury engine again. Wheel out the guillotines for all who'd have us submit to corporate interests.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Hillary must have learned it while she was working to elect Goldwater.
I hate to see the once GREAT Working Class party of FDR/JFK/LBJ dragged through the Republican mud by the inevitable one.
unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)Cnn in my opinion is pushing David Brocks slime.
Sanders handled the question very well.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-28/sanders-says-he-ll-struggle-to-win-iowa-with-low-voter-turnout
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)should she become POTUS she will have already crossed the aisle and shown that she can work with their programs...
bvar22
(39,909 posts)when she crossed the aisle to help Bush and the Republicans get their WAR ON.
In fact, she crosses that aisle often:
* Sanders has supported gay rights since 40 years ago. Clinton and Republicans have not.
* Sanders wants to end the prohibition of marijuana. Clinton & The Republicans do not.
* Sanders wants to end the death penalty. Clinton and Th Republicans do not.
* Sanders wants to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. Clinton and the Republicans do not.
* Sanders wants to break up the biggest banks. Clinton and The Republicans do not.
* Sanders voted against the Wall Street bailout. Clinton and the Republicans (and too many "Democrats) did not.
* Sanders introduced legislation to overturn Citizens United. Clinton and The Republicans did not.
* Sanders refuses to accept money from super PACs. Clinton and the Republicans do not.
* Sanders supports a single-payer healthcare system. Clinton and The Republicans do not.
* Sanders refrains from waging personal attacks for political gains. Clinton and The Republicans do not.
* Sanders considers climate change our nation's biggest threat. Clinton and The Republicans do not.
* Sanders opposed the Keystone XL Pipeline since day one. Clinton and the Republicans do not.
* Sanders voted against the Patriot Act. Clinton and the Republicans did not.
* Sanders voted against the war in Iraq. Clinton and The Republicans did not.
* Sanders wants to Raise (or eliminate) the CAP on FICA deductions. Clinton and the Republicans do not.
* Sanders opposes unrestricted "Free Trade". Clinton and the Republican do not.
Hillary sure seems to agree with Republicans a lot.
I don't,
that is why I am a Democrat, and voting for a Democrat....Bernie!
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)RepublicanLite candidates...the PTB ENCOURAGE their development, in fact...
"When a Democrat runs as a Lite Republican...the real Republican wins every time."
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)I somehow missed the part about the newspaper lending a helping hand, when reading about it somewhere. That puts a difference on things.
Or I should have said attempting to suppress. Same difference.
philly_bob
(2,419 posts)I won't vote for him in primary.
If this is a false accusation by Clinton's team (as I suspect) then it's a very nasty decline in campaign civility, and I will vote for Bernie as I planned and also donate money.
unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)These are the same types of claims that the Clinton campaign made against Obama in 2008.
Brock is a mud slinger and a proven liar..used to be a repuke now he heads up a super pac for Clinton.
I don't know if you are old enough to remember the hearings regarding Anita Hill and the lies he told, if not just google it.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)by doing this.....sure thing..
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)It's that he is one of the most honest people on the planet! He would NEVER CHEAT TO WIN...unlike HRH, who will lie, cheat and steal just to win.
Peace
Love
Bernie
unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)Brock is a liar and if this is who Clinton's campaign allows to represent her through her super pac than she is doomed to repeat her history of 2008.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)going down HARD and BIG. She won't know what hit her.
That why her operatives are out in full force today and will be foaming at the mouth until Monday.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)It didn't work against Obama and it won't work now. Bernie has a long track record of being honest, ethical and trustworthy. Even people who aren't politically aware know that Hillary is cloaked in scandal and isn't trustworthy. Everything she is doing now reinforces that perception. It's pathetic and desperate.
unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)she is still using in 2016.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)that aren't residents of the state they are caucusing in.
unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)Have they learned nothing from 2008?
lob1
(3,820 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Students don't always live close to where they are legal residents.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)They spent a fortune in money and time promoting a certain image only to squander all that work in their desperation to not suffer a humiliating defeat in Iowa. Pyrrhic victory if they win. Nobody will be buying what they're selling. That campaign will only be able to market itself as the lesser of two evils after Iowa.
The candidate behind the curtain has been shown.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)This suppression is about creating doubt about eligibility to caucus. This sorts of thing exploits the uncertainty and naivety of people unfamiliarity with the rules.
This thing depends on the rumor mill to reach its victims with disinformation. Modern communications technology can overwhelm that, and the canvassing efforts involved in GOTV can carry correct information.
The correct information can and will be forwarded among friends.
What we've seen this election cycle is negative campaigning producing big blow-back. Why would we not believe that young/new caucusers will likely be offended by the attempts to manipulate people like themselves and in that more motivated to vote?
This sort of voter suppression tactic has been used for years against minority voters who are provided all manner of misinformation about the presence of process-servers at the polls in order to discourage voting by people with unpaid bills, outstanding traffic violations, arrears in child-support, etc. Correct information is the antidote and it's pretty easy for precinct leaders and canvassers to reach voters via digital technology, we're way past 1988.
EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)I just don't understand why she thinks it will work in her favor this time around.