Dem Nomination Alliance Proposal: Outreach to the Green Party and other

[Zorra]

Liberal parties, organizations, and individuals in order to form an alliance to nominate Bernie.

If we can convince a large enough number of these folks to register as Democrats, and vote for Bernie in the Democratic Presidential nomination process, we will have a much greater possibility of getting Bernie nominated and elected.

We could actually have a force that could overthrow the oligarchs, and a possibility of instituting an American democracy and government that serves the best interests of human beings, and not the profit interests of corporations.

Please post any ideas for registering and/or increasing the number of Democrats that will vote for Bernie so that we can get him nominated. Thanks!

[Octafish]

1. It's gonna be something.

Like nothing we've seen.

[Ichingcarpenter]

12. Grassroots democracy

Greece did it street by street.

[Cheese Sandwich]

2. It would make sense for Bernie campaigners to visit local activist groups ...

Good campaigns always do that anyways

So that's like environmental groups, community organizations, etc.

Bernie campaigners can add a few more groups to the list than other Democratic candidates, because he does have the history and record to appeal to more people on the left.

We could add local Green Parties or socialist clubs to the outreach list. Not to ask those people to give up their whole identities, but just asking for their vote in Democratic Primary.

[aspirant]

3. Nobody's going to stop this train

even with a gazillion dollars.

[BrotherIvan]

4. THAT is a great idea

I know quite a few people who have moved over to the Greens. Going to put them on my list of people to talk to. I think a lot of people who have felt that had nowhere to go, because they were considered f'ing re$%rd#d and told "where else you gonna go?" Well now, they have someone to support.

My biggest fear right now isn't the voters or that Bernie won't resonate. I fear the Democratic Party themselves will try to torpedo him. We have to be very clear that that is not acceptable.

[Zorra]

6. Yeh, The Democratic party (Third Way) will surely try to torpedo him.

It is a given that it will be up to us to get Bernie nominated against the complete opposition of all "powers that be".

I have been a Dem all my life, but have come very close at times to joining the Green party, and I have donated to them because their platform is what the platform of the Democratic party is supposed to be.

[Jim Lane]

5. Keep in mind state-by-state eligibility to vote in primaries.

State laws vary:
* Anyone can vote in any primary.
* Only registered members of that party, but you can change your registration when you show up to vote.
* Only registered members of that party, and you must have changed your registration at least 30 days before the primary.
* Only registered members of that party, and you must have changed your registration before the preceding general election. (This is New York's rule. I don't think any state is more restrictive.)

In many states, people who proudly show their moral purity by NOT being registered Democrats could vote for Bernie anyway. In other states, they could switch fairly easily and then immediately switch back.

Overall, though, I'd have to say that the Greens and such aren't worth much effort. It's a real point of pride with them to disdain the Democratic Party. The more promising avenue for Sanders (and for O'Malley) is to register people who are currently unregistered.

[Zorra]

9. The Greens were very receptive to Rep. Kucinich in 2004, and probably would not

have run a candidate against him if he had won the nomination.

It is now 2015, and he control the oligarchs have over the the US government has increased exponentially, year by year since 2004.

The Greens know this, and I suspect they may be much more receptive these days to having a real shot at getting a Democratic candidate like Bernie nominated and elected.

The reality is, we are going to have to garner support from everywhere and anywhere we possibly can, with the exception of anything that even smacks of being RW, if we are going to get this done.

[cascadiance]

10. The Greens and other liberal parties should take a page from the Tea Party's book...

... and be loud and vocal within the Democratic Party and help us progressives take it over incrementally, the way the Tea Party has from some of the old guard Republicans in many parts of the country.

I think a lot of the traditional Democratic base is waiting for that kind of verbal messaging to be heard from us where perhaps we'll bust down the walls that the Third Way and other corporatist entities have put in front of us to keep us from being heard, so that pols like Rahm Emanuel can no longer tell us to "f*ck ourselves"...

The time is now to start shutting down the corporatist tumors that are so present now in our party!

[iandhr]

7. **** the green party

They gave us Ralph Nader.

Unlike Nader Berine is a good person. Bernie said he wouldn't be a spoiler to elect a Republican. Bernie knows there is a big difference between Clinton and Bush.

Nader said there was no difference between Gore and Bush.

[BeanMusical]

8. Lots of good ideas in this thread.

[mmonk]

11. Great idea. A+

[Ichingcarpenter]

13. I wouldn't count out Rand and Ron paul supporters

I don't care for them but many are disgruntled over Rand's poser politics and don't like other republicans.......

[Zorra]

14. Getting involved with them in any way is off the table for me.

They tried to take over Occupy Phoenix at first, but they got the cold shoulder from the rest of the group, and eventually went away.

[Ichingcarpenter]

15. Agreed its a delicate political jigsaw but

The Syriza party of Greece played that game and won

Its only the young Paulites that could be moved on issues of pot, freedom of the internet and some other issues that they may be persuaded. They are easily malleable.

Anyway just a thought.

[Zorra]

16. If they could ditch all association with the authoritarian right, that would work.

I have a very serious case of chronic Stalinophobia.

[Ichingcarpenter]

17. In primaries it might be useful

anyway I wouldn't discard the thought.

As Aristotle said



"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

[Luminous Animal]

18. I've run into quite a few younger people who don't delve beyond their

anti-pot war, anti-intervention, anti-NSA, etc. PR.

I believe is an opportunity to reach those voters.

[F4lconF16]

19. A good idea, but it will be a challenge.

To many of these third parties, the Democratic Party represents a deradicalizing force where movements go to die, and to be honest, I would agree with them. How do you plan to convince them Sanders is different? And if you can do that, how do you plan to convince them that the rest of the party is different? Sanders alone is not going to change their minds.

[Zorra]

20. I don't have to convince them that Bernie is a great candidate for them, they already know

that from his voting record. His voting record is clean Green, like every real Democrats voting record should be.

Where they need convincing is to have an association with the Democratic party, which they generally view as neo-liberal scum, just slightly better than republicans.

That will be the tough sell, but the fact is, the left needs to unite behind a universally acceptable leader who will do their best to help us wrest control from the oligarchs.

Like the man said, "If we do not hang together, we will most assuredly hang separately".

[Zorra]

21. "We call on all other progressive forces to unite behind Sanders so we can have a united front

in this campaign."

We Are People for Bernie

We are activists and organizers trying to build a broad, effective movement for democratic change. We come from different backgrounds, and were inspired by different issues and fights for peace, rights and the planet. Our goal is a government that carries out the will of the people, and not serve to increase the profits of the 1% at the expense of the rest of us.

To that end we support Bernie Sanders in his bid to become the presidential nominee of the Democratic Party. We stand firmly behind Senator Sanders as the strongest progressive possibility in the race right now. His commitment to our values is one of long standing commitment. Sanders is the bold alternative.

As a truly progressive candidate for the Democratic Party nomination, Senator Sanders has the chance to inspire millions of Americans with policy proposals that put the interests of the 99%, front and center.
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We call on all other progressive forces to unite behind Sanders so we can have a united front in this important campaign.

http://www.peopleforbernie.com/