From Reddit: Roanoke County, VA loses 600+ votes for Sanders, no explanation

[LiberalArkie]

[warrprayer]

1. Kick

And rec

[cui bono]

2. Oh hell...

Bernie...

Because fuck this shit.

.

[Dont call me Shirley]

3. Bernie has had a lot of votes stolen from him.

[Bubzer]

4. Added to the list

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280129486

[840high]

14. yep

[AzDar]

5. Wow. Hard not to notice that these things only seem to happen to Senator Sanders...

[TrueDemVA]

6. Can't beat 'em, Cheat 'em

Typical republican move. How can anyone not see that Bernie is the only Democrat in the race.

[SoapBox]

7. Needs repeating...

Can't Beat'em...Cheat'em.

[Dustlawyer]

25. Represented by the law firm, Dewey Cheatum & Howe!!!

[KPN]

62. And again ...

Can't Beat'em, Cheat'em.

[INdemo]

11. We were right. Debbie Wasserman Schultz is woorse than

Karl Rove.
She has learned the system and learned it well.


I am convinced now and had doubts from the beginning that Bernie Sanders won Iowa (and by much more that a Tenth of a point.


And Probably Nevada too.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz..what can you say about her...she now takes loan sharks money and she illegally funnels DNC money to the Clinton campaign..yes she is worse that Karl Rove.


Obama could step in and get rid of this_______________ DNC Chairperson.

[Betty Karlson]

68. But he won't step in: remember what a turncoat he was to the LGBT?

He's status quo too, just less obviously than the Corruption and Coronation Committee and its Currently Unimpeded Nomination Triangulator, Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

[bvar22]

75. Why doesn't Obama "step in"?

"I want to thank Debbie Wasserman-Schultz for being an outstanding chair of our party. (Applause.) She is a great partner."--President Obama

DWS is head of the DNC because that is where the Big Money wants her to be.
Her job is secure until after the election when she will Fail Upwards...again.

[Chasstev365]

8. Oh, Come On!

Hillary and Democratic leaders would NEVER cheat to prevent someone from upsetting HER coronation.

[marions ghost]

58. They might

even get some help from R Friends for Hill (and we know they're out there).

[Chasstev365]

77. It was sarcasm.

[ReallyIAmAnOptimist]

9. Sigh.

This is not the country I thought I grew up in.

I'm really tired of the problems with our elections:
- SCOTUS inserting itself in FL-2000
- voting machines,
- caucuses,
- voter suppression, and
- voter apathy (although I can understand why people are apathetic).

[mikehiggins]

57. SCOTUS

The Democratic Party should have raised holy hell about the whole Florida thing.
But who knew?
What has happened since was unimaginable back in 2000 so I can't really blame Gore (though picking Loserman for VP was a YYUUUGGGEEEE mistake) for thinking things were going to keep stumbling along like we were used to.
If only...

[appal_jack]

65. Well, everyone here knew.

I didn't register as a DU'er until 2004, but I was reading and lurking since mid-2001. Discussions of election theft were common since Day 1.

-app

[Botany]

10. Nothing to see here folks ... move along nothing to see here

Ohio 2004 screen grab ..... toledo OH area

[zentrum]

12. They don't care.

Not HRC. Or the DNC. Or her followers. Or the MSM.

Whatever it takes to prevent a return of FDR, they'll do.

There are more and more levels on which America is broken.

Bernie needs to have vetted observers at all polling/caucus stations.

I always wonder if the things we read about, are, in fact, things that get communicated to Bernie.

[grasswire]

33. I agree.

There needs to be a platoon of volunteer lawyers in every state.

Or call in some international election monitors.

[zentrum]

35. Yes! It's foolish

….to be passive.

Will try to get the idea across to his campaign headquarters. But I"ll just be speaking to another volunteer.

[PoliticalMalcontent]

13. Just a reminder to never stop fighting.

Stuff like this should make the news.

[jalan48]

15. Billions, trillions ride on the outcome of election.

Does anyone think the Wall Street banksters are going to play fair? I think their term for us is "chumps".

[smiley]

16. Kick

[silvershadow]

17. K&R

[thereismore]

18. The Hell!

[jillan]

19. WTF????

[retrowire]

20. This should be on the news!!! nt

[Autumn Colors]

46. On the media whose survival depends on those votes staying lost?

Get it going viral on the internet. It'll NEVER be on mainstream media.

[marions ghost]

59. Absolutely true

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[Boldine]

21. How convenient.

[DeGreg]

22. Let's mobilize...

If this cheating and media bs continues, it's pitchforks and torches in the streets at the convention (get a gas mask too, avoid the rush.).

[aspirant]

23. This party has been completely corrupted,

to fix this mess will take years. We need a plan B

[truedelphi]

29. ^^^^^^^^^^ n/t

[stillwaiting]

31. We need to mobilize to demand paper ballots.

If we get that then we might be able to elect some people that will work to provide election reform.

If we get that, then we might be able to get Congress to begin representing average Americans again.

[CdnExtraNational]

45. An interesting quote comes to mind /nt

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - John F. Kennedy

[Beartracks]

64. Plan Bernie?

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[Divernan]

24. Hill's BFF, VA. Governor Terry McAuliffe will NOT look into this.

[in_cog_ni_to]

30. That's true. BFF will never investigate. Maybe Virginia has a RW AG. That would be the only way it

Would ever be investigated. The Dem party is too corrupt to do the right thing.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Autumn Colors]

48. Eesh...

Maybe Virginia has a RW AG. That would be the only way it would ever be investigated.

True ... but feels almost twilight zone-ish ...

[in_cog_ni_to]

50. I know, but a RW AG wouldn't investigate because it's the right thing to do, but because her last

Name is CLINTON.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Autumn Colors]

53. Oh, I know that (nt)

[in_cog_ni_to]

26. That probably happened in every precinct in every state in precincts that supported Clinton.

Why is it EVERY BIT OF QUESTIONABLE VOTE TALLIES; Iowa, Nevada, Massachusetts, Virginia....ALL FAVOR CLINTON?

Damn scumbag thieves.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[GoneFishin]

27. I think we've moved into the "death by one thousand cuts" phase where they just keep picking away

at Bernie a million different ways, all just barely under the mainstream radar.

Fucking cheaters.

[djean111]

28. Kind of, well, ROVIAN, isn't it.

Not a question.

[blackspade]

32. WTF?

If this shit keeps up Clinton and her supporters are on their own in November.
And the result will be on them.

There had better be an accurate, factual, and plausible explanation for this.

[grasswire]

34. yes, it's time to start blaming them.

Let Hillary be the one to make things right by stepping aside now --- because she isn't going to be able to heal this rift.

[IdahoGoBlue]

36. The cure

If she's the nominee it will be from cheating so to make sure she does not become the president, we all need to write Bernie in on the Ballot anyway. I won't vote for her. Period.

[SammyWinstonJack]

69. I'd already planned to write in Bernie if she steals the nomination

[Gwhittey]

73. No

Write in Steve "Cold' Austin because at least that why you wrote in a guy who Knocked Trump out(if if it is wrestling)

[JDPriestly]

37. The format on the reports is different?

Is one a tally of exit polls and the other official?

What is the full story on this.

[Uncle Joe]

38. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, LiberalArkie.

[ChiciB1]

39. When I Heard Bernie Won OK, My First Thought Was...

Oh my, I guess The Clinton Machine just didn't have enough time to gum up the works there! Of all places for him to win this one really was strange.

I KNOW many, many Hillary supporters here don't want to accept the reality that The Clinton Machine has tentacles almost everywhere. There are some Congress Critters who haven't endorsed her I know, but they would rather KEEP QUIET than get trampled when they run for re-election. You think it's ONLY the POC she thinks needs to heel?? Not on your life!

I think the reason DWS is going after Elizabeth Warrens bill is because they're baiting her. Warren hasn't endorsed and I suppose she is just standing her ground so far. I have no proof, but make NO MISTAKE The Clinton Machine isn't only The Democratic Party... Bill Clinton has been chummy with The Bushes for years and there's a long list of Wall Street peeps and more of this ilk!

They have some serious enemies, but should she win this election THE CLINTON'S will almost become a RULING MONARCHY! They've pulled dirty tricks for many years and there's no way much of it can be proved. She's down here in Florida now and her BFF DWS has been known for her connection with the Repukes.

But, one thing Bernie has forced them to do is SPEND MONEY they never wanted to spend. She just got a donation from Saudi Arabia, is going to hold a fund raiser in MEXICO and in LONDON! Gee, I thought this was an American election!

This uprising has been brewing for years, but the Repukes always felt they had everything covered. Now they don't know what to do about Trump! But Bernie has done something phenomenal given who he is and where he came from... he's made The Clinton Machine have to fight back. Unfortunately for Bernie... The Clintons hold so many chits and they will do whatever it takes to use them where they need to.

I never trusted her back when she ran the first time because of a lot of this stuff, and here we are again! I'm sure many here think I'm talking trash because I'm a Bernie supporter, but I assure you... my comments were the same when she ran the last time.

I tell people all the time, BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR! And you can scoff at what happened in MA yesterday, but that was blatant in your face crap and everyone should be outraged... but I bet nobody heard one peep on MSM! I don't watch MSM so can't verify this, still I don't think they said anything. The Clintons feel as ENTITLED as Trump does, but there are TWO of them! Yeah, you get TWO FOR ONE!

[lostnfound]

52. I'm convinced that Florida was stolen in 2004

Screen shots analysis bubble charts I did showed a clear pattern of skimming in large counties depending on version of software being run on the central tabulators for the voting machines.

[ChiciB1]

55. OH, There Is Actual Proof It Was Stolen In 2000!

I just got a call from my local Supervisor of Elections to talk to me about what our duties will be on election night. THIS is the county that kinda/sorta lost about 18,000 votes when Vern Buchanan ran against Christine Jennings.

Yeah, Florida has long been known as the state that doesn't know how to vote. We have Rick Scott as our Governor who was indicted 51 times and took the 5th on all charges regarding his dealings with HCA. So even though Charlie Crist was once a Repub., many Dems came out and voted for him and he was ahead by a small margin for months, BUT we now have RICK SCOTT again, I call him THE ALIEN because he LOOKS like one! I've seen him in person and he has these weird piercing eyes that surely scares babies (lol) but HE got elected! Many Dems vote for Repukes here too. This state isn't Democratic friendly in Tallahassee.

We have formed Democratic Progressive Caucuses of Florida in many counties and have gotten an approved Charter, but Tallahassee has already tried to shut us down. They've failed so far. We just need to make this place much more Progressive, but we're not popular up there. The groups are very new so we'll see how it goes. A baby step anyway.

My county is so Red, but recently because of this election there were long lines of people switching from being Ind. or other to either D or R to vote in our Primary. I've never seen this happen, just wish I knew if they were changing to vote for Trump or Bernie! THAT I don't know... but record numbers of people DID switch. We do have many Ind., here that generally vote R though.

It's tough being a Dem. here!

But yes, IMO there's always a lot of suspicion here and working at polling places I've asked questions about things that have happened that I never get answers to. It's been so much worse because of the MACHINES! Many of us vote Absentee, but even then you can check to see if they received your vote, BUT there's no way you can verify that it was counted. But, I guess it's that way everywhere.

Now, see what you did? You just made me write you an essay that I didn't intend to do. Just some info that goes on around here that gets under my skin.

[marions ghost]

60. Unverifiable voting

---this works for a lot of people but not for democracy.

I am not at all surprised they "lost" votes in VA--not at all.

[mwooldri]

63. 2004? 2000 I can buy. 2004 Ohio I can buy.

I thought that Florida would have cleaned up its act by 2004 for something resembling free and fair elections.

Time to invite the Nigerian election monitors in? Nope, the Indians.... they've got the worlds' largest democracy and electronic voting that's verifiable and secure (hint: no touchscreens or scanners) and a paper trail.

[Gwhittey]

74. 100%

And about point of her last time. 2008 she was telling Whites that they need to vote her because in GE Obama would not win because he could only get black vote. This back fired on her as it exposed her AR white racism to white Dems. So now 8 years later she is pulling same crap with Black people, telling them she needs win because only ones voting for Sanders are Young White males. I am wondering if African Americans read much of 2008 primaries about Hillary. Even odd is some of the same Black leaders of 2008 that called Hillary on her Racist BS are now supporting her. Just goes to show you that people are people no matter what their skin color is, people can be black,white,tan or orange(yea you Mr .Trump) and still be seduced by money/power.

[EndElectoral]

40. Something is rotten in the county of Roanoke

[drokhole]

41. Roanoke is famous for mysterious disappearances...

...and this might top the list.

[RoccoR5955]

42. This is getting me sick already! n/t

[bunnies]

43. That's it for me. Straw, camel, broken.

I'm done.

[Ferd Berfel]

44. ACting like Republicans arent' they - Same old Rovian shit

If I was a sociopath I could ignore this. But I can't.

Treason against democracy - again

[Spitfire of ATJ]

47. Are Hillary supporters snickering over this?

[SammyWinstonJack]

70. Oh I'm sure they are.

[Duppers]

49. Damn.

How many more?

Rovesque.

[bbgrunt]

51. it's time for the revolution to begin.

[FourScore]

54. Anonymous? Paging Anonymous. Please pick up the white courtesy phone.

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Is there any thing you can do to ensure the fairness of the election. You saved us from Rove's tactics in 2008. Anything you can do here?

[Tom Rinaldo]

56. This needs to be explained

It's not just about the integrity of this election, it is about the integrity of all elections.

[WillyT]

61. Huge K & R !!!

[They_Live]

66. K & R

[Betty Karlson]

67. Saint Hillary of Walmart, blessed Lady of Inevitability, pray for us.

Or failing an amen, just disenfranchise us.

This party is corrupt to the bone. Disgusting and more disgusting.

[Gumboot]

71. Those who count the votes...

... hold all the power. We humble voters are just lambs to the slaughter.

Power elites always get what they want. Aided and abetted by a corporate media bloc that dutifully looks the other way, time after time.

[Enthusiast]

72. I have an explanation.

[YOHABLO]

76. I will be very surprised if any of the MSM reports on this. How about you?

People in this country have shite for brains. All they care about is making money. They are not at all concerned about the consequences of this corrupt system of voting. They really don't think it matters.