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Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 02:28 AM Mar 2016

You want to see what an enthusiasm gap looks like?





When doing a side-by-side comparison of the crowds attending a Hillary Clinton rally and a Bernie Sanders rally, a picture really does say a thousand words.

The day after Super Tuesday, which saw Hillary Clinton unable to bury the Bernie Sanders campaign, both candidates were back out on the trail to revel in their respective victories and drum up support for the next wave of primaries.

In Michigan, Sanders spoke to a packed house at the Breslin Student Events Center at Michigan State University, where thousands of supporters lined up in the snow for hours to hear his energetic speech.


Meanwhile, in New York City, Hillary Clinton had a very different kind of rally in a draped-off corner of the Jacob Javits Center. The rally was organized for and by many of the labor bosses in New York who had endorsed Clinton over the objections of their members. USA Today, covering the event, called it her “victory lap.”

For most of the attendees, being at the rally was mandatory, while some groups, such as the Carpenters Union, gave attendees “comp time” for the hours they were at the event. Even with such incentives, there were fewer than 1,000 people there.

http://usuncut.com/news/how-tonights-bernie-sanders-rally-compared-to-hillary-clintons/

Also worth noting a few more familiar themes of the Clinton campaign showed up. Later she claimed there were around 5400 in attendance at her NY rally. And I read in this article something about her fighting for $15 at this particular event. That will probably change at her next bank speech.

Clinton celebrated with a homecoming rally in the state she represented in the Senate, attracting a labor union-heavy crowd of 5,400 to Manhattan’s Javits Center, according to her campaign.

“Yesterday was one for the history books!’” Clinton declared in a hanger-sized room and flanked by giant American flags. “Our campaign went nationwide.”

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/clinton-projects-inevitability-after-super-tuesday-wins

This is why I think momentum is on Bernie's side. I know Bernie's numbers are going to grow and it will show at the ballot box.
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You want to see what an enthusiasm gap looks like? (Original Post) Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 OP
Damn, she must have 50 people! yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #1
Post number 2 was intended as a reply to you. Opps. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #3
Bet none of them are smiling either. nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #7
Shouldn't a dried tree stump be able to draw 1000 people from a city with a population of around 8.4 Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #2
Millennials are so complacent: they don't even show up to help Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #4
Oooh, but I love that description because it is so true. nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #6
You know it! Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #21
It seriously is. I have to remember to frame it just that way to them although in my experience Live and Learn Mar 2016 #23
Yeah, they've already fleeced the rest of us. Blus4u Mar 2016 #28
are saying Hillary only drew 1000 people there? pdsimdars Mar 2016 #12
Specially if they're paid comp time to attend! PAID TO ATTEND! Divernan Mar 2016 #17
Or "former Bernie supporters" who claim to "have seen the light, Hill Yes". Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #22
The unpaid "straight to gay converts" are more realistic. LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #33
Bbbuttt everyone knows that no unions EVER coherce members to attend. Live and Learn Mar 2016 #5
Oh yeah, K&R'd and bookmarked and shared. nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #8
Geez, Ed. That doesn't look like 5,400 people there at the Javits Center. PatrickforO Mar 2016 #9
Hill "evolves" crowd of under 1,000 to claim 5,400! Divernan Mar 2016 #18
So how the fuck did she win Super Tuesday with those crowds? SheilaT Mar 2016 #10
Well, it is a known fact that people will stand in rain and snow and freezing weather for hours to LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #34
What I want to see pdsimdars Mar 2016 #11
A strong case for: Bernie won Super Tuesday hillarysong2016 Mar 2016 #13
Love it! peacebird Mar 2016 #27
It'll be easier to see on election day.n/t jtuck004 Mar 2016 #14
butbutbut mainstream media says he has no chance. pansypoo53219 Mar 2016 #15
Thanks for posting Sherman A1 Mar 2016 #16
In The Big Apple Wednesday corbettkroehler Mar 2016 #19
Hill's PR guy: Bunch up together to look like a crowd while I take this closeup. Divernan Mar 2016 #20
There is an enthusiasm gap. People don't want to see her, but they thereismore Mar 2016 #24
Just remember bernbabe Mar 2016 #25
Not sure about that. peace13 Mar 2016 #26
Bernie has middle agers bernbabe Mar 2016 #29
I was replying to your 'young' comment. peace13 Mar 2016 #31
Articles reporting on this event fredamae Mar 2016 #30
If the photo of the NY event is accurate this is evidence of fraud by the MSM leveymg Mar 2016 #32
It really tells the story, doesn't it? Hydra Mar 2016 #35
I hope your right about the ballot box. Duckfan Mar 2016 #36
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
4. Millennials are so complacent: they don't even show up to help
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:43 AM
Mar 2016

the woman who wants to administrate their generation's demise.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
23. It seriously is. I have to remember to frame it just that way to them although in my experience
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 06:54 AM
Mar 2016

they already seem to know it. So frustrating that some of their elders don;t seem to get it or care.

Blus4u

(608 posts)
28. Yeah, they've already fleeced the rest of us.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:47 AM
Mar 2016

They now are working on a new generation of victims.

Peace

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
17. Specially if they're paid comp time to attend! PAID TO ATTEND!
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 06:40 AM
Mar 2016

Surely she's not paying anyone to post on political blogs, though, right?

I mean that would be wrong! Unless they revealed themselves as paid posters, of course.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
22. Or "former Bernie supporters" who claim to "have seen the light, Hill Yes".
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 06:51 AM
Mar 2016

Even those paid "gay to straight converts" are more convincing.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
5. Bbbuttt everyone knows that no unions EVER coherce members to attend.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:54 AM
Mar 2016


I was attacked for saying SOME do, SOMETIMES. K&R

PatrickforO

(14,559 posts)
9. Geez, Ed. That doesn't look like 5,400 people there at the Javits Center.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:15 AM
Mar 2016

That ARENA sure does look full, though!

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
18. Hill "evolves" crowd of under 1,000 to claim 5,400!
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 06:42 AM
Mar 2016

And judging from that photo, we're talking well under 1,000

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
34. Well, it is a known fact that people will stand in rain and snow and freezing weather for hours to
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:05 PM
Mar 2016

go inside to a rally for Bernie, but they don't "seem to need to take 30 minutes inside a warm building to vote". That is what they seem to indicate isn't it?

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
11. What I want to see
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:07 AM
Mar 2016

I want to see one of these pictures side by side with a picture of Hillary at one of her $500 a ticket meetings in someone's home with all those 20+ people. Just to show the STARK contrast.

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
19. In The Big Apple Wednesday
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 06:44 AM
Mar 2016

I was in the Big Apple yesterday on business (remaining today). While I am in the Financial District (her second home), miles from the Javits Center, I watched some of the morning local news and there was no mention of her rally.

Besides, if it were such a large event, why is there no mention on the front page of Thursday's Times and Daily News?







Divernan

(15,480 posts)
20. Hill's PR guy: Bunch up together to look like a crowd while I take this closeup.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 06:45 AM
Mar 2016

And don't forget to send in your damned dollar, Mattie! You can afford a damned dollar! If you don't send in your damned dollar, I'll make Bill stand on K Street with a collection can! Is that what you want, Mattie?!?!?

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
24. There is an enthusiasm gap. People don't want to see her, but they
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:38 AM
Mar 2016

go to vote. Her support is not enthusiastic but reliable. She is counting on that. Voting is a habit for older people.

bernbabe

(370 posts)
25. Just remember
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:40 AM
Mar 2016

young people are much more likely to go to rallies than older people. This is undoubtedly part of the reason. But Bernie definitely does seem to have more enthusiasm behind him.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
26. Not sure about that.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:43 AM
Mar 2016

We went to many Obama rally's and Middle Agers were the main stay. We were the volunteers too!

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
31. I was replying to your 'young' comment.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:53 AM
Mar 2016

Most young people are at school, work or sleeping when these rallies are held. But I will say that we saw families and young children in the crowds with Obama.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
30. Articles reporting on this event
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:53 AM
Mar 2016

describe a very different scene "Thousands Line Up" kinda thing but All photos are Close-ups and No wide angles.
I first saw this and thought perhaps this was a snap-shot of before the event.....Hell I don't know. Figured NYC Would be a Huge draw for her. I cannot tell who, if anyone is speaking yet from this photo.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
32. If the photo of the NY event is accurate this is evidence of fraud by the MSM
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:00 AM
Mar 2016

Like 1984 or Pravda was described. This has to be followed up on.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
35. It really tells the story, doesn't it?
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:22 AM
Mar 2016

She's not interested in people- her votes are dollars. LOTS of them.

And we know the MSM is corrupt, from at least before 2000. As George Carlin put it, "...Neither do I believe anything I'm told by the media, who, in the case of the Gulf War, functioned as little more than unpaid employees of the Defense Department, and who, most of the time, operate as unofficial public relations agency for the government and industry."

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
36. I hope your right about the ballot box.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:43 AM
Mar 2016

Unlike Nevada, if people show en mass like they stand in line at rally's, then we have reason to smile.

Remember, this is our opportunity. We can't blow it.

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