Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumI have now heard it all re: the Media from a Clinton Supporter
In interacting with a spirited Clinton supporter today, I was informed this:
So I would appreciate your comments below and if you could help me understand if I am truly the only one. A few recs to get more opinions wouldn't hurt either. Would love to know if this analysis is spot on
NowSam
(1,252 posts)in this bizarro world. The media is in partnership with these candidates as are the bankers. The owners of the bought and paid for corrupt system. It is rotten to the core.
Only We the People, united together can save this nation. One Nation - indivisible.
Bernie is our champion.
I mean I wanted to make sure I haven't lost my mind
NowSam
(1,252 posts)You are perfectly sane.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Rubio, Cruz, Mitt and on the Democratic side talked about Hillary. So no you're not losing your mind.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)The media is for anyone they think corporations and Wall Street can control and this year that means Hillary on the Democratic side.
Hell, she's probably more beholding to the corporations and Wall Street than Donald Trump, even, but he gives them ratings, so they like him, too.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)to create smoke screens while the dirty work of the oligarchs gets done by slight of hand in the background
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)I have stopped watching MSNBC because they are nothing but Hillary and Trump. The only reason (again my opinion) Trump is so yuuuge is because of the media free time. Media made him. Media regularly cuts away from Bernie. Lesser Repubs were not covered until recently and still not to the extent that Trump is covered.
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)Somebody is stuck in the 90's. It was true then, it's not true now.
Melissa G
(10,170 posts)Links to back up this assertion for those too oblivious to notice.
http://decisiondata.org/news/political-media-blackouts-president-2016/#conclusion
http://decisiondata.org/news/political-media-blackouts-president-2016/
http://www.thenation.com/article/the-discourse-suffers-when-trump-gets-23-times-as-much-coverage-as-sanders/
sarge43
(28,941 posts)wanted to harass Bill Clinton into doing their bidding. As it turned out they were fairly successful. Further, as always the media loves scandal, real or perceived - sex sells/if it bleeds, it leads. A juicy story will bring more audience than the nuances of economic policy.
The media is now under the control of five or six mega corporations; they want Clinton. She'll do nothing to break their bought and paid for control over the political system.
The spirited Clinton supporter may be the only person on earth who believes the media is not in the tank for Clinton.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Of course the media wants Clinton.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)...they will have, to keep her in line as to the rich getting richer, etc. I think that's what the Monica thing was all about. It was a tool to curtail any latent populist tendencies Bill might have had, say, toward easing the destructiveness of NAFTA on American workers, or maybe NOT axing Glass-Steagall?
Though I don't think Hillary ever had any populist tendencies, they might fear that she does. Also, the blackmail material will be useful as to gutting Social Security, etc. The whole 1%er agenda will be coming at us, plus more war. If she dares to be a good president in any respect, they have plenty of ammunition to impeach her with, in gleeful collusion with the pigs in Congress. The Saudi/Clinton Foundation arms deal would suffice. But they'll probably pick something silly, like classified docs going to her big money pals. That's her problem--she's not only amazingly stupid at times, she is very, very corrupt.
Your "spirited Clinton supporter" is naive about how the world works, especially with regard to the Corporate Propaganda media. They ABOVE ALL would HATE to have an honest man in the White House! Probably true, too, of a lot of other nefarious parties that want to control the President. Sanders would be very hard to blackmail. But Hillary Clinton--what a feast!
Besides that potential lurid spectacle, they may think she is the weaker Dem candidate, and they actually want a billionaire in the office (they've been giving Trump BOFFO free publicity from the moment he announced). There actually are a lot of reasons to think that Sanders is the stronger Dem candidate, at this point--reasons that they, of course, are not revealing to the public. These fatcat media barons will have apoplexy fits if Sanders becomes President. His Plank #1 is to deny them billions of dollars in political advertising! And his Planks #2, 3 and 4, are nearly as bad. 'An educated public??--God spare us!'
So-o-o-o, they're being nice to Hillary by way of black-holing Sanders. Obliterating him from our minds. They want her to be the candidate and to LOSE. And, if by chance, she doesn't--they've got her by the short hairs.
delrem
(9,688 posts)She's their candidate.
Hillary Clinton is perhaps the most OWNED candidate that I've ever heard of.
And they're getting away with it, too, because a lot of people actually believe that she gives a shit about the "social justice" issues that she campaigns about - and if she wins will actually believe that secret nefarious forces forced her to betray them.
delrem
(9,688 posts)Also just for a laugh I'll add that "the media" isn't "liberal", either. It's corporate and services the bottom line. End of story.
I'm not talking of small media operations, I'm of course talking about the large networked corporate conglomerations.
Comcast endorsed her.
You were played by someone dealing from the "Hillary is a victim of a right-wing conspiracy" deck. It's a whole pack of cards portraying Hillary Clinton as a victim. It's her "mystique", it lays the groundwork for the "she's a fighter!" nonsense. How the whole world is unfair to poor Hillary, but she's strong!
She's a corporate centrist. Her husband Bill says stuff like "poor people should be given a hand up rather than a hand out", the standard self-serving right-wing cant delivered while yanking the rug out from under the less advantaged so as to pay for tax cuts and giveaways to the very richest. She services war profiteers. Oh, does she ever. The blood flows and it will continue to flow as long as people like her are elected as leader, all for massive profits made after insider no-bid dealings. Dealings that she set up an entire "charitable foundation" to launder, and her "charitable foundation" only handles a sliver of it. She puts the private profits of parasitical private health insurance companies ahead of the interests of the people who would benefit from universal health care, then bullshits about "incrementalism" in an attempt to put lipstick on that pig. And people believe it - being too lazy to actually spend a few hours studying the actual matters, the wide ranging implementations around the world, all shown to be more than possible by countries some of which are VERY much poorer than the USA. And that is what the corporate investment capitalist interests who own the MSM, and who also own her, want. That's why they've been playing the issues as they have. That's why the MSM trots her out as "inevitable". The MSM doesn't want to hear *anything* from anyone but Republicans and the right-wing extremist "New Democrats", who enable everything Republican and spend their entire political careers stymieing everything progressive, everything that gets in their war profiteering way.
The Clintons aren't even close to being "leftist", or "liberal", to say nothing of "progressive". They took upward of $160 *million* in payola and graft from their corporate masters over the past 15 years, and those corporate masters own "the media".
The Hillary supporter you were talking with is a stupid shill.
eridani
(51,907 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)They were promoted as being something different than Ronald Reagan.
I admit, I bought into it. I was that dull witted.
There was no opposition to it. It was the easiest, sleaziest political operation in the world and a lot of us got sucked down it.
I remember all the women of my acquaintance disagreeing me regarding the sex scandals, re-explaining me about the a, b, c's.
I said that Bill was innocent and Monica was a narcissistic looney tune and that was the end of it. I said that it was a right-wing Republican conspiracy. I did! I said that shit!